2.0 Turbo AWD Battle

Here are four Japanese 2.0 Turbo AWD cars that have competed in rally racing. Four stout motors, four sophisticated AWD systems, and four big-ass snails. Which one is king?

depends what for: these ar my awards

looks: super - subjective
handling: EVO
quickest: GTi-R (i know its not actually the quickest but its by far the lightest and it has a quad throttle sr20det) or EVO
sound: subjective but only WRXSTi has that deep boxer throb
strong/reliable: GT-Four, coz its a toyota
Fast n Furious screentime: EVO
best jap car in WRC: used to be mitsu evo, but now its the WRX STi
most electric gadgetry: EVO
hardest engine to work on: WRX STi
highest centre of gravity: GTi-R

The GTi-R and the GT4 both dont have as much HP as the other two...so they are at a disadvantage...so I would take the STi since too many ppl have the Evo here in Florida...and slowly also the STi

The GTi-R and the GT4 both dont have as much HP as the other two...so they are at a disadvantage...so I would take the STi since too many ppl have the Evo here in Florida...and slowly also the STi

it may be 45hp down on the STi and EVO, but the GTi-R only weighs ~2700lb, compared to the EVO's ~3100lb (EVO VII GSR) and the Subaru's ~3200lb (MY03 WRX STi)...and every drifter knows what an sr20det is capable of, only the GTi-R sr20 is better: quad throttle...

as for the GT-four, it is heavier, has less power stock and its engine is not that easy to modify and there isnt a big aftermarket for it, but it is the superior engine and in the end will be capable of the most power...plus it is very reliable, because its a toyota. so yeah. GT-four Group A's are awesome especially the ST205, and ST165's can be real sleepers and also have a kind of old school appeal.

so dont underestimate the underdogs.

but being newer and having years of development, the EVO and impreza are probably the superior cars

The EVO, so easy to modified, so easy to make power. The others are also great, but the EVO just has it all, except the looks, but last time I checked, the Sunny was kind of ugly also.

I voted for the GT4, they look the nicest, but I`d have to agree with "Engineer" with the EVO and Sti being more developed, not neceseraly superior, different yes and newer. when it comes down to it though the EVO would have to win through, good quality, better than the Impreza, and lots of HP, probably easyer to come by aswell with a whole host of mods. "3000ways" is right with the Sunny being ugly, they are also not that nice to drive, but at the end of the day we all have our favourites, get the one you like the most,mod it, then blow away the competition with a big grin on your face.

I personally think the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution is the best out of all of them. To me, it really comes down to handling, and the Evolution has superior handling compared to any other Japanese car.

It's probably down to the two hot favourites. The evo and the sti. they've survived this long because they've really been making good cars. But from the two, the evo's the clear winner. THere's a Top Gear episode on the battle of these two giants. The overall result was a thrashing! Quote "The subaru was a good boys car.... but that.... the mitsubishi... is a man's car!"

I'd go with the gt4. The 3gste is probably the best engine for relabilty out of all of them, has dual entry turbo, and probably can handle the most hp on stock internals.

Up here in connecticut, I've seen STI's than any other japnese sports car. I've seen more of them than Supras, NSX's, Rx7's and evo's combined

combinded huh?

I like the older sti's. They weighted allot less then the new ones. :)

What about the AWD DSM's? Got to give them at least a shout out for being cheap and easy to pickup. :)

I figured that putting in both the DSM and the Evo would be a bit redundant, so I just put in the Evo.

yeah, plus even though they have allot in common.. they are from what I hear two completely different beasts.

They're fairly different, but it would still be redundant to have two AWD Mitsubishis with the same engine in the same comparo.

Yeah i think that i would have to put the GT4 at the top of the list narrowly beating the EVO.

GT4's do have great modability in the right hands and to me personallyi think the have a certain exclusivity factor about them.

The EVO is the best in pure performance but are next to impossible to get your hands on for a decent price in Aust.

GTiR's took a huge beating with the ugly stick when the were being designed

There are 50 squillion WRXs on the roads in Aust. i need to stand out

GT4 would be the best in the overall stakes id say.

Hehe, I wish they brought the ST205 (6th gen.) Celica GT-Four to the states. I love that design, and no one has any idea what it is :)

yeah dont they call em celica all-trac or something in the US ?

Yeah, I hate that name, and the ones we got are pretty slow in stock form. 3219 lbs. is just ridiculous for a sports coupe from that time period.

i like the gt4, but its old, slower steering, and more chance that itll have rotted parts. its old technology compared to the current evo or sti, but im sure you could add some stuff on there to make it perform just as well. i think its also on the heavy side compared to the others, i heard 3300-3400 lbs for its curb weight. it has a good engine though, it has good low to midrange punch. i heard the 3sgte could get the most power without stuff breaking out of all the 2.0 turbo engines. too bad toyota was caught cheating in wrc, and left because of too many penalties. they were doing pretty good too. i wish they kept going, i wonder how good their awd cars would be now. the last car they used for wrc was the corolla i believe.

Curb weight on the 1993 Celica All-Trac Turbo is 3219 lbs. I wasn't intending for it to be compared to the current Evo and STi; I'll be more specific on years next time.

i voted for the sti but that is assuming you ment best at rally the evo has the history in rally and i like them better but the car they had in the wrc sucked this year hopefully they will bounce back next year

I was talking about stock street-legal versions from the early-mid 90's...I should have mentioned that at the start of the poll.

The GT4 woulda been a good car in the US in the mid 90's, but too much has changed