Charger vs. Superbee

Okay, so I've got a 70 charger R/T with a 440 in my garage and when I told my friend he started talking about how the superbee was a better car, and I think he's full of it. What it comes down to I think is the engine size, and the driver... I need everyones thoughts on this one... thanks!

i agree. if you had a super bee and a 383 charger equaly equipped with the same four barrel, intake, ect. it would come down to the driver. if you didnt know almost all super bees come with 383's except the 69 1/2 which had a 440 6 pack. either way it all depends on drive train and the driver.

You could get sixpacks since 1969.5 all the way up to 1971. The cars are built on the same frame, weigh just about the same, and are basically the same car except for some bodylines.

I think the bees look meaner, I like them more.

i didnt think that the superbee continued with the 6 pack option after 69.

I'd have to say the charger unless the super bee had the 440 6 pack

Info on the Coronet Super Bee is available at http://www.allpar.com/model/roadrunner.html

The Super Bee was basically a Dodge Coronet version of the Belvedere-based Plymouth Road Runner.

Both are cool, but the only way it'd perform better is if it has a 440 Six-Pack and yours has a 440 Magnum. If they both have Magnums or if they both have Six-Packs, it'd be about the same, unless the Charger weighs less or has less frontal area.

Nah, no 6 pack, but we're prolly gonna try and put a HEMI in it ne ways, like one of the new ones straight outa mopar's catalog that's got like 400 or 500 HP I Think?

I think Mopar now has Hemi heads available that will fit 440 blocks, but I'm not sure...

The Charger is heavier than the Superbee, but they are basically the same thing. Who cares? They're both Mopar. What's important is that they beat any Ford or Chevy.

By the way, they did offer 440-six pack option after '69. They just didn't offer the lift-off hood.

The Charger is heavier than the Superbee, but they are basically the same thing. Who cares? They're both Mopar. What's important is that they beat any Ford or Chevy.

By the way, they did offer 440-six pack option after '69. They just didn't offer the lift-off hood.

Yea, I hear that, I mean the only reason I was posting was b/c of my dumbass friend who didn't belive me, all I wanted was some support from the experts, that's all!

personally i thin charger but of course i have one (1972 fire red) but if they were equally equiped it would be up to the drivers

I personally think that a superbee is better, I don't have any proof of this, but I think Mopar made the GTX and the Superbee High Profile cars, but I also agree that you can make anything better, all you need is a little elbow grease. But you what I don't understand. If a GTX and a Superbee are Mopars high profile cars, why did they model them after a Satellite and a Coronet. Those where the low profile cars. And also A 70 superbee don't look too great, I think they should of stuck with 69 look.

And yeah they did offer the 6 pack option in 69, in fact most 69 superbees seem to have them.

I think Mopar now has Hemi heads available that will fit 440 blocks, but I'm not sure...

Yeah, a company tried to do it, but the cost of making hemispherical heads that fit a 440 vs a 426 Hemi, and vs their output weren't to great. Basically it cost more to have just a little more horse power. So people just rather bought a crate hemi and modified that.

Superbee would have an aerodynamic advantage over 100mph. :) After all, it was made as a producation vehicle so Mopars could RULE Nastycar.

the daytona was for nascar. the bee and the runner were for 1/4 mile.

can't forget about the superbird!!!!

Superbee would have an aerodynamic advantage over 100mph. :) After all, it was made as a producation vehicle so Mopars could RULE Nastycar.

Confused about the 'Birds and the Bees, are you now?

Personally I believe the Charger is the ride to be in...but im just a little biased :cwm27:

lethal... is that ur 68 charger, cuz ohhhh mama!

Yes it is...it's a real #'s matching Hemi car...it won an award (Daimler Chrysler) at Carlisle this year...and it was picked for a photo shoot in Mopar Collectors Guide at the Mopar Fest (New Hamburgh, Ontario) show...it is the 1st Mopar that I have owned and now Mopars are all that I want.....oh yah...Hemi's Rule :cwm27:

very very nice, are those the 68 rims? or what??

very very nice, are those the 68 rims? or what??

Yes they are 68 Hemi rims with the proper dog dish hubcaps....the car is correct right down to the battery cables

oooohh man that's awesome! that's a real keeper man.

I personally think that a superbee is better, I don't have any proof of this, but I think Mopar made the GTX and the Superbee High Profile cars, but I also agree that you can make anything better, all you need is a little elbow grease. But you what I don't understand. If a GTX and a Superbee are Mopars high profile cars, why did they model them after a Satellite and a Coronet. Those where the low profile cars. And also A 70 superbee don't look too great, I think they should of stuck with 69 look.

:nono: The Superbee was the same level package as the Road Runner, not the GTX. The 'Bee and the 'Runner were the stripped-down, cheaper muscle models, intended more to be raced and to be affordable by younger buyers. The Plymouth GTX and the Dodge Coronet R/T were the top-level models, loaded with all the power options, but with more luxury optons as well. More expensive, but definitely higher-end. The lower-model Dodges (the Coronet Custom, 440, and 500...just names, not engine size) and the lower Plymouth (Belvedere, and Sport Satellite (there are others, I'm not a plymouth guy as much)) were offered for everyone else. those are the cars moms drove, they came in 4-door and even wagons.

And yeah they did offer the 6 pack option in 69, in fact most 69 superbees seem to have them.
it's not that most Superbees came with the 6-pak option, but it's that everybody who has a '69 Bee wants to make theirs into one. Same story with the Road Runners with the Six-Barrel package (not 6-Pak). most came with other engines in fact, they're just not as noticed because they lack the huge scoop and lift-off hood.

i didnt think that the superbee continued with the 6 pack option after 69.
The 6-Pak setup was available on Superbees, Chargers, Roadrunners, GTX's, and Coronet R/T's, Challengers, and Cuda's 'till 1971. There are even a few '72's that slipped out with the package on them, although it wasn't advertised.

I think Mopar now has Hemi heads available that will fit 440 blocks, but I'm not sure...
The company that offered Hemi heads for other big-blocks is Stage V Engineering. They cost a pretty penny...you'll probably be spending about $5,000 on the conversion. In addition, you have to do some griding on your block to get pushrods to fit, etc. a LOT of work and money, could be spent on just hopping up your big-block (IMO).

I own a 71 superbird and i bet it could kick all of your asses lol

I own a 71 superbird and i bet it could kick all of your asses lol
They didn't make a Superbird in 71.

no they didnt. but there is a guy in stoughton mass that made a 71 daytona and a 71 superbird off of some pictures and specs he got off line. he found the designs of what the cars would look like and made them. i believe the daytona is in an issue of mopar muscle.

Here's an idea! Get the 71 Dodge Charger Superbee!

Haha, u guys are crazy, and to 10086303... oh yea, well I got a 68 charger with a jet engine that can go mach 75 and 1/2!!!!

I've never seen hemi heads for a B-R/B engine but there is a company that makes them for A engines. I own both a 68 Charger and a 70 Super Bee, both cars are practically the same. Most 68, 69 and 70 Super Bees had a 383 in them. In 1970 there were only 3 engine options for the Super Bee: 383 four barrel, 440 six-pak or 426 Hemi.

The bee cause it is lighter.

I'd go for the Charger.. Higher HP

I go with the SuperBee, just because I have a 68 Bee sitting in my garage I bought new in 1968. Also, in 1968 bees were made only 1/2 year, so there are less of them around.

Gentlemen please look at the dates before posting, this is way too old, if interested start a new thread.