EVO vs. WRX/STI (Real Life Battle)

Dang been awhile since I last posted a thread here. Well we all know about internet smack talking, well it happends on every board, BS stories about beating this car and that car, most of it is absolute BS. WRX/STI owners love to talk smack about EVOs, and vice versa, all in fun. Finally an event was held this past Saturday, in which both WRX/STI and EVO owners had to back up their smack talk. It was a great turn out, over 150 different EVOs, WRXs, and STIs drag racing. The results- well it turned out to be very one sided, the EVOs handed the WRXs/STIs their ass. Here is a link to the Subaru site where they are admiting defeat and coming up with many excuses.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=607558

Hopefully this trend will continue, and many other events like this can be held, what two type of cars would you like to see go head to head. Personally I would love to see SRT-4 vs. Honda to see who really is the FWD King? Or how about Supra vs. LS1, maybe one day EVO vs. Supra? So many possibilities?

i wanna see a cobra swallow a supra

I figured the STi would lose this one. The Evo has always been the better sports car, and since the USDM STi has a whole new engine, the aftermarket potential for it is not as great. I think in a few years, though, the STi should be on par with the Evo over here.

I think LS1 vs. Supra would be extremely bad-ass.

cobra should desimate the supra rather easily... a mach one vs. supra would be good, the mach one would still win but it would be alot closer.

srt-4 versus honda??? which honda?

stock to stock, the srt-4 should beat all hondas cept an s2000 and nsx. may even beat an s2000 if the driver doesn't know how to drive it. but since you listed FWD only, i would say the srt-4 should have an advantage over any FWD honda. the new TL's are pretty quick though.

also, what year supras and cobras are we talkin about here? it'd be interesting to see a 04 cobra vs 95 or 96 supra tt, although i'd think the cobra should win pretty easily. until you start modding out the supra that is.

i automatically assumed it was the latest years of each car... and dont forget a mustang can be modded to.

srt-4 versus honda??? which honda?

stock to stock, the srt-4 should beat all hondas cept an s2000 and nsx. may even beat an s2000 if the driver doesn't know how to drive it. but since you listed FWD only, i would say the srt-4 should have an advantage over any FWD honda. the new TL's are pretty quick though.

also, what year supras and cobras are we talkin about here? it'd be interesting to see a 04 cobra vs 95 or 96 supra tt, although i'd think the cobra should win pretty easily. until you start modding out the supra that is.

Didn't mention stock, cuz that is pretty obvious, I'm talking about brung what you got as long as it is street legal. So the point is, to see which FWD cars truly are the fastest ones in general, is it the Turbo B16 CRX or a Stage 2 SRT-4 (Just an example). Same goes for Supras, they have proven to be monsters modified.

Like to see the Supra and the LS1

An SRT-4 can beat an s2000 in a straight line. Its very hard to launch Hondas and be consistent...small engine Hondas...

S2000s run 5.4 0-60 mph when they are totally abused, feathering the clutch at 7000 rpms or so...on a normal launch 3,000-4000 range s2000s run 6.0 0-60mph...wheas SRTs can be launched basically from 2000 rpms or a little higher and pull consistently,...

I'm with young here, supra vs cobra.

cobra should desimate the supra rather easily... a mach one vs. supra would be good, the mach one would still win but it would be alot closer.

well i've spoken to a few a guy who usually runs in import vs domestic battles at race way park. ( i live near that area ) and he drives a 11 second 69 camaro, he admits that the only fast imports there that ends up at the finals are supras. always every single year the supras are in the finals. and they usually run atleast 11's to 10's. and there are 9 second street supras with full interiors too in the states. so to say that a mach 1 would take down a supra is ludicris. and so is saying a cobra would take down a supra is also very ignorant. unless yoru talkin stock for stock. then a supra would lose to the cobra. but not to a mach1 since the supra does trap at 107mph stock.

also now lets talk about modding. a stock supra puts down 280-290whp on average. with bolt ons they can go as high as 450whp which is over 500 crank hp. now if you upgrade the turbo you can hit over 600whp easily. i work at speedworld and this summer i must've seen atleast 3 650+ whp supras at the shop i work at. those are easily 11 second cars. i know the cobra takes mods well too. however around 550whp is the limit for the modular v8 engine in stock trim. and the super charger maxes out at around that whp too. so your still goin to 100whp off from the average turbo upgraded supra. i would suggest you learn some stuff about your opponent before you mouth off.

edit: i chose LS1 vs supra by the way since the LS1 is just as quick if not faster then a cobra. also there tons of low 11 second LS1's then cobras. and plus fordjunkky pist me off so i would just choose the LS1 out of spite.

LOL, ya gotta love tatII

first off, i pissed you off, not pist you off... second off i thought this was stock... stock for stock the new cobra would desimate a stock supra... also i like camaros, corvettes and friebirds so that doesnt piss me off one bit...

also im not disputing that supras are awesome but its the same old story, you get what you pay for, back in 96 these things went from like 38,000 up into the 40's(almost 49,000)... thats more than the current cobra costs by about 5-15 grand (in 96 cobras started at like 26k so almost twice as much), so you get what you pay for. the question is "is it worth it"?

an engine able to hold over 900hp on stock internals, is worth it to me, a car that can go from 320hp to well over 400hp with $100 is worth it to me, also handles not too shabby either, and a long lasting vehicle named toyota with the performance of a c5 corvette. sounds worth it to me

not worth it?

http://mkiv.com/publications/car&driver/3_93/6-cd3-93.jpg

well to each his own i guess, personally its not worth it to me, those stats are impressive but if i can modify for cheaper i will.

with what car are you gonna modify for cheaper?

for 42,000? you could modify just about anything to compete with that. 42,000 goes a long way with aftermarket, especially with ebaymotors.

well sure, i can take a civic and make it faster than a supra for less than that.

not sure were you live but, here you can get a supra for 25grand. and also the same you can say for any car. even the corvette.

both cost the same and have the same performance, i mean i can say well i don't wanna ferrari cause with that money i can take a 300zxtt for 13grand and put 50 into it and it will kill the barchetta or the modena or whatever.

hell i can take a dsm for 3 grand and drop 5 into it and kill cobra's all day long

that statement can be made about any car

alright so atleast i know you thought it was stock for stock. so i have no problems with that. also that event already past and it turned out to be a EVO vs. STi event. and the EVO's were destorying STi's and WRX's. most were in the low 12's and some in the 11's. and even Big AL's 10 second EVO showed up. so in other words the EVO put a whooping on the STi's.

well, no hard feelings

and yes that statement can be made for any car, i dont remember implying that it couldnt... all i said was if i can modify a car to compete with more expensive cars for alot less i will.

"hell i can take a dsm for 3 grand and drop 5 into it and kill cobra's all day long"

well, hell i can take a 5.0 mustang for 3 grand and drop 5 into it and eat up alot of high end cars all day long, for five grand i could slap a blower on it and a top of the lline suspension kit (so itll outhandle to)

its pretty hard to debate cars when you throw aftermarket into the mix caus ethe possibilities are endless.

Supra TT v. LS1

The way I see it, these are the 2 of the best street legal drag monsters out there. Both of these cars have so much potential for power. The Supra is (arguably) the fastest 1/4 mile car Japan has sent to America. I've seen 1,300 bhp Supras online and 1,000 bhp Supras at shows (honest). The LS1 cars have drag potential that so well documented on this forum I wont even bother describing it. Theres only so much power you can get out of a 4-cylinder. I love watching modded out Supras v. modded c5 Vettes at my local drag strip. Its one of the most heated feuds in all of (street legal) drag racing.

yup 04 COBRA vs. SUPRA TT it would be a nice race.

Supra vs. LS1, although i think a supra could take it if you're allowed to mod both cars.

and once i figure out a site that will host vids, i'll post up a vid of a supra smoking a cobra

muscle owns the strip, what makes you think the supra will win if you modded both cars?

It depends how far you wanna take your modding. I think if you're going balls to the wall, the LS1 will eventually be faster than the Supra.

me too

It's not that shocking, Subaru has always been giving the US a tuned-down version of ther WRX's, we don't even get their high version, the S202. Mitsubishi gave the US a exact replica of their Evo-8 and I hope Subaru will do the same.

It's not that shocking, Subaru has always been giving the US a tuned-down version of ther WRX's, we don't even get their high version, the S202. Mitsubishi gave the US a exact replica of their Evo-8 and I hope Subaru will do the same.

Sorry, but the Japanese/European market Evo 8 puts ours to SHAME.

It's not that shocking, Subaru has always been giving the US a tuned-down version of ther WRX's, we don't even get their high version, the S202. Mitsubishi gave the US a exact replica of their Evo-8 and I hope Subaru will do the same.

the EVO 8 in the U.S. no where near the same as the j spec EVO

we got a 5 speed, the japs get 6

we got only 271hp (officially) they get 280 ( both are probrably underrated )

we don't have a active center differential. the japs do

we don't have active yaw control, the japs do

we weight more

so how is our EVO the same as the japanese version?

the only one that comes close will be the EVO MR thats coming in a few months. and even that one is inferior to the japanese one by making less power and weighting more then a standard EVO GS-R.

the STi is very close to the japanese STi. waaay more closer then the u.s. evo is the japanese evo.

Uh, the USDM STi has a completely different engine. But other than that, yeah, it's pretty similar.

yeah different engine but hte output is the same. and so is the rest of the drivetrain. and oh yeah the wheels are different. lolz

just want to let you guys know.
this month's CAR magazine has a little articel about the FQ400 i mentioned before elsewhere.

The STI engine had to be larger to make the same power with our emissions nonsense...

in a comparison between the sti and the evo: its all up to the driver, how is better?

and in case you missed the article,
the writers/testers claim it outpaces a zonda.....

There's more to an engine than how much power it makes. How about the rpm it makes that power at in each gear? That'd be important too.

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