what's the best rwd car

it will eventually happen, not sayin theyll surpass but catch up, the reason toyota and honda are so high up is because they were tryin to find ways to bring in new buyers where as ford had no need to, they were untouchable, well that closemindedness by ford is costing them bigtime and they know if they dont step it up they wont be number for long. so in short ford just wasnt trying, but they are now. and as far as variable cam timing etc... it doesnt even matter cause it wont be to long before gasolin engines are exstinct theyll switch over to hybrid long before we run out of oil because well need all that crued oil for plastics etc... so im not to worried about that, and the hybrid technology, toyota is ahead. time will tell on that

I personally could care less who is the most technologically advanced. I just like fast, cheap RWD cars :)

how much does a Fox body weight anyways? i know a third Gen RX-7 weights 2700 lbs. so with that power to weight ratio thats why they put it in SS class ( which is super stock ) where it competes with Z06's and vipers. even the NSX and EVO 8 or STi's are in AS ( A Stock ).

acoording to edmunds.com the gt's curb weight is just over 2800 lbs(ive never weighed one myself but it has the rx7 listed at like 2780 so ill trust them)... lx is lighter.

Ford... Untouchable! Nobody is untouchable in today’s market. As for the Mustang. Ok, It’s popular in the USA. But only in the USA! And it’s not down to quality, but more nostalgia.

45phb per litre CC! That’s diabolical for a "modern" sports car! Indeed to run one of those in Britain, where we are charged the proper rate for petrol, would represent financial rape for the owners of mustangs!

Europe and Japan can produce products of a finer quality, with greater potential, reliability, and performance.

Change is not such a bad thing. If Ford wanted to make the Mustang a global success, then that 5.0l V8 needs scraping, and a new engine needs to be developed that’s more suited to a modern, ecological, and economic society.

Change is not such a bad thing. If Ford wanted to make the Mustang a global success, then that 5.0l V8 needs scraping, and a new engine needs to be developed that’s more suited to a modern, ecological, and economic society.

The newer Mustangs have a 4.6L OHC engine (Mach 1 and Cobra are DOHC); the 5.0 hasn't been used in the Mustang since 1995.

I guess it comes down to you get what you pay for; if you want higher levels of quality and refinement, as well as performance, you're gonna have to pay a lot more for it than you would for a Mustang or Camaro. I'm 18 and I could care less what the inside of my car is made out of, as long as it is fairly fast, fairly reliable, and fairly safe. And the Mustang has proven itself be all three of those things.

toyota doesnt need to find more buyers... what makes u think ford has so many?

toyota is currently the largest car company IN THE WORLD...and the first company to make over 10 billion dollars in one year... but that doesnt seem to be an excuse to not be technically advanced

I know it isn't, and Ford screwed up. They're trying to fix it. And BTW, the Ford F-150, Ford Taurus, and Ford Explorer are all in the top 10 best-selling vehicles list and have been for quite a few years.

ehem... do i not type clearly?, when i was talking about toyota having to bring in more customers im reffering to toyota back in the 70's and 80's. and i didnt say ford was untouchable i said it was that kind of thinking that got ford into this rough patch... and yes the mustang (or all domestics for that matter) has less technology, but the price is also less, call me an old fashioned american but i could care less about luxury, long as its fast and fun thats all that matters.

470bhp 3.5-litre V6
600bhp 5.0-litre V8

those are the engines

ghetto7o2azn, it's not a direct equation like that; you can't get that kind of efficiency with a V8 unless you're buying a supercar, like a Ferrari or something. Also, the S2000 only makes 2/3rds as much torque as it does horsepower. I guarantee you that a 600 bhp 5.0 would be making well over 800 torque. And you still haven't addressed the fact that the Mustang GT is cheaper than the S2000, yet faster in the quarter mile. People don't buy Mustangs for handling unless they plan on doing heavy suspension upgrading, so the quarter mile is what really matters for it.

I wouldn’t consider Ford to be dragging its feet in future concepts.

Here (http://www.ford.com/en/innovation/engineFuelTechnology/hydrogenInternalCombustion.htm) is an engine Ford has developed that uses hydrogen for combustion. The only other company I know of that has made a hydrogen combustion engine is BMW.
When you consider how uncontrollable hydrogen is as a combustion fuel you have to give merit. It must require a lot of computer-controlled precision to prevent the engine from simply blowing up.

The current problem that exists is finding a safe fuel tank that can keep the hydrogen liquefied. This is of course not so much of a concern when you consider the difficulty of storing hydrogen at a gas station and the dangers of somebody filling up who doesn’t know what there doing.

Anyway in my rational, Ford is definitely playing out their part in the development of automotive technology just like Toyota, Honda, GM..ect.
Where as the European manufactures are usually the ones who pioneer a technology, The American and Japanese manufacturers are usually the ones to roll it out over a wider market.

Mazda has an RX-8 concept that will run on hydrogen. The rotary engine's design makes it a perfect candidate for being powered by hydrogen.

Mazda has an RX-8 concept that will run on hydrogen. The rotary engine's design makes it a perfect candidate for being powered by hydrogen.
They have built one have they? Not bad.
I always thought that the rotary engine would make a good candidate for the combustion of unstable gases. Due to the curvature of the chamber and the constant motion it would be able to better accommodate the gases natural flow during combustion.
The only thing I can see where there might be a problem is in the ignition process. You would want it to ignite at just the right moment or calamity could occur. And a rotary’s ignition process is not as precise as a reciprocal engines (hence why they needed an extra spark plug just after the ignition point to combust any unburnt fuel).

Still I am unfamiliar with the new design features of Genesis engine used in the RX-8, and a lot of my knowage on the rotary engine is based on its predecessors.

Has anyone recommended a C4 corvette yet? I'm sure you can find a fairly nice one for 5k.
*hoping Vettribution87 returns to this thread to share some c4 wisdom...
It's a Mustang, it automatically by default weighs at least 3500 lbs. and will get owned by any import at autocrossing.
I know this is a joke and all but it gives me a good excuse to say..
This year in the SCCA soloII Nationals a Camaro got 1st and a Mustang got 2nd in ESP with compitition from such cars as WRX STi's and EVO's.
Not bad for an over weight low tech yank tank eh?[/sarcasm]
:bananadie

I know this is a joke and all but it gives me a good excuse to say..
This year in the SCCA soloII Nationals a Camaro got 1st and a Mustang got 2nd in ESP with compitition from such cars as WRX STi's and EVO's.
Not bad for an over weight low tech yank tank eh?[/sarcasm]
:bananadie

No you just put that to say a Camaro beat a Mustang... jackass.

Who cares, the point is that no matter how much technology you have, it's hard to beat V8 RWD power.

Has anyone recommended a C4 corvette yet? I'm sure you can find a fairly nice one for 5k.
*hoping Vettribution87 returns to this thread to share some c4 wisdom...


What would you like to know? :smokin:

lol Sean_S.

hmm.. what to know... Can I buy take it off your hands for 1,200? ;)
I do have one question about them although it may be abit OT... How hard would it be to swap the engine or trannny from an early c4 to a later c4? Is it a basic bolt in or is there allot of costom work to it?
I know its an odd ball question but I have yet to see it answerd or even menioned in any vette forums.. :)

lol Sean_S.

hmm.. what to know... Can I buy take it off your hands for 1,200? ;)
I do have one question about them although it may be abit OT... How hard would it be to swap the engine or trannny from an early c4 to a later c4? Is it a basic bolt in or is there allot of costom work to it?
I know its an odd ball question but I have yet to see it answerd or even menioned in any vette forums.. :)

Well an engine swap is pretty extreme for any vehicle, although people have done LT1 conversions on L98 Corvettes.
I don’t know about the transmission but I feel that an engine swap from a early C4 to a later C4 shouldn’t be too difficult considering that every small block Chevy after the L98 was smaller in size (Except the LT5 in the ZR-1 Corvette). Although that are many other options you can choose for a L98 Corvette.
I wont go over the details here as I am diverting from the original subject matter of this thread.

Try this (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=863843&highlight=LT1+engine+swap) site for information on C4 engine swaps.
Also have you tried the Corvette Action Center? (http://corvetteactioncenter.com/index.php) This site is probably the most thougher source of Corvette info in existence. I would have posted a link to a relevant page at this site but the server seems to be congested from here. So you have to just run a search in the C4 technical section from the provided link to the home page. :sorry:

Thanks. :)

How did this Comparison on RWD cars, turn into a raging Mustang and Corvette match?!?

That's a really good question. Nevertheless, it was a good thread with some good discussion (aside from the blatantly biased people).