Fast 4 door

Well I currently have a nissan 180sx and its not the friendliest when it comes to family and bring along buisiness clients... :disappoin
So with that in mind I am looking for a fast import 4 door and have ran across a couple that I like already... So what will you all recommend? :feedback:
Also something with an easy to access engine bay for upgrades and matinence. Here are some choices I have found I liked

Lexus IS300
Infinity G20
Subaru Legacy
BMW 5 series
Honda Accord *Euro Type R*


So what should it be?

I am looking for a lot of :2cents: from yall :)

Get the new Legacy

JZX100 TOYOTA CHASER ... these are the COOLEST 4 door imports i think, and they have a 1JZ-GTE and we all know the kind of potential they have... well a lot and they actually rev harder than 2j because of shorter stroke... anyways with $1-2000 this car will have 400hp here are some pics .... http://www5c.biglobe.ne.jp/~acm75472/jzx100-chaser/exterior/exterior.htm

in japan they are used as street monsters, circuit weapons and drift pigs.... they are just awesome and pretty rare, slightly on the heavy side but not too heavy and big and roomy and slightly luxurious

JZX100 TOYOTA CHASER

DAM THATS SEXY!...
now how can i get it legalized here in the US :cwm27:

Chasers are awesome, but you can't get them here in the U.S. So, I'd go for the Lexus IS 300 or the BMW 3 Series, whichever you like better.

Evo
Tsx
Wrx

whats a TSX?

here is a nicely modified japanese jzx100 - this kind of effect can be easily achieved with this car - it is stunning i love it - and a powerful RWD 1jz-GTE.... make no mistake, this is no soarer, its not a boat it handles quite well for a car its size and i think it has just about everything u specified it just seems perfect 4 u (i am biased - i love them)
http://www.aeropalace.co.jp/sports/spo_image/chaser_jzx100bk_1a.jpg
http://www.aeropalace.co.jp/sports/spo_image/chaser_jzx100bk_1b.jpg
http://www.aeropalace.co.jp/sports/spo_image/chaser_jzx100bk_2.jpg http://www.aeropalace.co.jp/sports/spo_image/chaser_jzx100bk_4.jpg
http://www.aeropalace.co.jp/sports/spo_image/chaser_jzx100bk_3.jpg http://www.aeropalace.co.jp/sports/spo_image/chaser_jzx100bk_7.jpg
http://www.aeropalace.co.jp/sports/spo_image/chaser_jzx100bk_5.jpg http://www.aeropalace.co.jp/sports/spo_image/chaser_jzx100bk_6.jpg

how about a Mark II?

http://www.evolution.co.jp/exclusive/lip/jzx90/jzx90.jpg
http://www.autoindex.org/images/cars/328/455/norm_10_Japan.jpg
http://www.autoindex.org/images/cars/328/455/norm_11_Japan.jpg

hey engineer it needs to be able to get leagalized here in the US with no problem tho..

whats a TSX?

Acura TSX. Are you in America or another country? In other countries it's the accord type R or something like that.

It's 200HP 4 cyl and it pretty fast for an all-motor 4 door family car (by American standards, we don't have too many skylines here :)

whats a TSX?
Think Acura/Honda

If it was between the Acura/Honda TSX or TL which would it be?

I don't know alot about the TL but I think it's a higher class/more expensive car, it's v6 compared to the TSX's 4. But in your first post, you seem like want a fast car, if you can afford a TL, I think you can buy yourself a fast EVO or a WRX :)

Also if i went WRX then it would be an STI and with all them super flashy body kits... ehh not what i want out of the family car... ohh no! Kinda want a sleeper but with a clean nice body kit upgrades.... anyone understand me?

I don't know alot about the TL but I think it's a higher class/more expensive car, it's v6 compared to the TSX's 4. But in your first post, you seem like want a fast car, if you can afford a TL, I think you can buy yourself a fast EVO or a WRX :)

I kinda wanna sneak up on people ... :iceslolan and just go :loser: MUAHAHA... everyone knows about the EVO's and WRX's so I want to stay clean from those things... Does the TSX have any aftermarket?

Yeah include cars that have decent aftermarket with them!

fyi the infinity g20 *2002* with an SR20VE swap *comes from its japanese counter half the primera* and that 2.0 pushes out 204hp stock :)

well u have a 180sx... how about a cefiro??? if u dont know its basically a 4 door silvia with an rb20det ... it even looks just like a silvia at the front but a bit different at the rear, and as for jzx90 / mk2 they are nowhere near as sexy as jzx100.... but u said is300, they are nice cars too, but hard to tune for more power as they come in very high tune stock

plenty of space tho in the IS300 engine bay?

Also if i went WRX then it would be an STI and with all them super flashy body kits... ehh not what i want out of the family car... ohh no! Kinda want a sleeper but with a clean nice body kit upgrades.... anyone understand me?

:2cents: my deff of a sleeper is extereor is bone stock :2cents: except for things such has a working spoiler (only if your car is fast enough to need one...and it must be as low profile as possible) or rims...rims only if you cant find rubber to fit stock rims that is rated to adiquite speeds....and the rims should be as clost to stock looking as possible....steel rims are good...but please no hub caps....so in my deff even a low profile body kit no longer allows it to be a sleeper...but then agian who cares what my deff is... :banghead: :eek7: :disappoin

DON'T get a Cefiro, especially if they are rare in your country. They have HUGELY complex and unreliable electrical systems. If nobody knows anything about the car, then it will send you VERY broke VERY quickly.

Add to that, they rust too easily.

but u said is300, they are nice cars too, but hard to tune for more power as they come in very high tune stock

Well, its engine is the 2JZ-GE, the non-turbo Supra engine. So all it needs is some twin turbos to become an absolute monstrosity.

Well, its engine is the 2JZ-GE, the non-turbo Supra engine. So all it needs is some twin turbos to become an absolute monstrosity.

ooh sorry i fucked up i was thinkin bout is200 (high buzzin 3s-gte) no 2jz-GE is good engine to tune, u could probably get a decent completely drivable 280hp without any forced induction, or else u can turbo it, or swap in a 2jz or a 1jz or go all out and make a 1.5jz-GTE (2j block, 1j head). do is300's come in manual?

Take a spin in a Jag X-Type - has more interior and trunk room than baby Lexus, more power, and AWD. Size wise its very close to the BMW 5 series.

Regards:
Oldengineer

1.Is300

runner up the acura TL not tsx! tl is wide better lookin and comes with 270 hp where as the tsx comes with 200.

0ver all I would get an evo or Sti.

Take a spin in a Jag X-Type - has more interior and trunk room than baby Lexus, more power, and AWD. Size wise its very close to the BMW 5 series.

Regards:
Oldengineer

AWD I may go for a infiniti FX35...those are just superb!... the 35 version because the vq35 has a huge aftermarket support *because the 350z runs the same engine*...then see about if the 35's engine would mount with the 45's awd tranny...nm they have an RWD and AWD 35 version :banghead:

OK I AM SOLD :).... Sorry but I Just found the right looking Lexus... and for the right price... the IS300... and choice an appropriate body kit and i should be set *DANG THEY MADE A LOT OF ACCESSORIES FOR THIS CAR*... ok time for me to move over to the toyota/lexus area of this forum

OK I AM SOLD :).... Sorry but I Just found the right looking Lexus... and for the right price... the IS300... and choice an appropriate body kit and i should be set *DANG THEY MADE A LOT OF ACCESSORIES FOR THIS CAR*... ok time for me to move over to the toyota/lexus area of this forum


u will keep us posted on progress, right?

Yeah, the IS 300 comes with a five-speed manual or five-speed "E-Shift" automatic.

yeah i will keep yall posted... gosh i was on autotrader last night and god so many automatics :nono: :banghead: :disappoin

Yeah, I'd say about 80% of IS 300s are automatic. :(

CKAMC, you want a fast 4-door import? How about a Neon SRT4?























Whadayamean a Neon isnt an import? To me, my fellow European & other non-US AF members, all American cars are imports.

Read this (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=170703).

I would have thought "Domestic vs Import Debates, Please read before posting" would have been a clear enough instruction. AF is a global automotive forum hence the term "import" has no meaning here. Thread title changed.

Why would anyone want an Lexus IS300/Altezza NOW? It's going to be replaced in a year by another compact Lexus. You would be driving a long-in-the-tooth older generation car when the new car comes out. It's like buying a 2004 Mustang when the new 2005 Mustang is just around the corner.

I recommend a 6-speed Infiniti G35/Skyline sedan because the platform and the VQ won't be replaced anytime soon (if you have the $$$ for an IS300, then you should have enough for a G35).

I personally dislike the G35 sedan look... eww its just eww compared to the 2dr... never should have made a sedan version... yeah i will look and see what is going to replace the IS300... sometimes the older model suits some people better than the newer model

its all about preference

Also what is this new model Lexus you speak of that they are bringing in? I just did a quick search and saw the 2006 GS but havent seen anything else

hmm, fast and four door?

i'm suprised that no ones mentioned the new audi S4 and RS6......

The IS 300 isn't getting replaced, it's just getting upgraded to the IS 350. I think there is an IS 430 in the works as well.

I kinda wanna sneak up on people ... :iceslolan and just go :loser: MUAHAHA... everyone knows about the EVO's and WRX's so I want to stay clean from those things... Does the TSX have any aftermarket?




The TSX comes with a K-series engine and it shares many parts from an acura RSX type-S. to my knowledge the cylender heads are the same while the short block is .4 liters more BUT has lower compression...I guess that's why it's at the same HP level as an RSX 2.0 :dunno:

If you have a TSX engine, install only 11:1 compression pistons, type R cams from the japanese RSX type R, and get the computer chipped by Hondata, and you'll see an easy 230-240 RELIABLE HP. You don't even have to have an aftermarket chip, I've heard rumors of people using the stock RSX type R chip from Japan. Yo'll be amazed at how these engines respond to better cams and pistons. On another note, the RSX type-S connesting rods are knows to be weak/soft, the TSX rods MIGHT be the same, so if you want a TSX find out about rods as well.

hmm, fast and four door?

i'm suprised that no ones mentioned the new audi S4 and RS6......

Well while those are fast, and have 4 doors, they also come with a $50,000 and a $90,000 price tag.

What engine will it be if they do an IS 350? and what will the 430 be? i am not fummiliar with toyota engines but i just read a popular thing to do with the IS and get a 2jz *TT version* and do a swap... TT has a 6 speed... but i dont know much on toyota/lexus....

But no one has heard of a Infiniti G20 *sr20 powered* that has nissans little version of vtec called Neo VVL? they run quick for NA *204 hp*

Phhhbbbttt........ A Civic Type R and most likely even and SiR (B16b and B16a) would have little trouble with a Pulsar VZ-R (SR16VE - aka, has Nissans VVT system) from what I've seen.

So imagine a much heavier and sloppier Primera (aka G20) with a similar motor. Not fast.

What engine will it be if they do an IS 350? and what will the 430 be? i am not fummiliar with toyota engines but i just read a popular thing to do with the IS and get a 2jz *TT version* and do a swap... TT has a 6 speed... but i dont know much on toyota/lexus....

But no one has heard of a Infiniti G20 *sr20 powered* that has nissans little version of vtec called Neo VVL? they run quick for NA *204 hp*

Screw the primera, let's talk about the 4WD turbo SR20 Nissan Pulsar :icon16:

Primeras are pretty heavy, 2900 LBS is what I've heard, that a good 400-500 LBS heavier than the Civic Type R Jimster mentioned earlier.

Well while those are fast, and have 4 doors, they also come with a $50,000 and a $90,000 price tag

ok, maybe the RS6 is a bit excessive.
but the S4?
brand new IS 300 costs about £27,000
brand new 5 series begins at £26,000
(520i......)
S4 begins at £36,000, which in my mind, isn't a bad price for what you're getting.

four doors and cheaper?
how an alfa 156 GTA?
same proce as the IS300 but way cooler.

Well while those are fast, and have 4 doors, they also come with a $50,000 and a $90,000 price tag
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four doors and cheaper?
how an alfa 156 GTA?
same proce as the IS300 but way cooler.

ummm i would take the rear wheel drive IS300 over the alfa anyday. plus there are certain aspects of alfa styling that just dont go [the rear end]

Hey, Nobody has mentioned this car yet, and I'm not sure if it ever reached the US, but the original shape Mercedes C43 AMG was seriously quick. Ok, not the best looking car on the planet, but with tuning firms like Brabus, Hartage, Carlson and Birds, you could get over 550bhp out of one.

If budget is no constraint then the M5, E55 AMG, or RS6 pretty much rule this territory.

audi a4

ummm i would take the rear wheel drive IS300 over the alfa anyday. plus there are certain aspects of alfa styling that just dont go [the rear end]
You'd be about the first person who's said that.


Personally, I'd take an Alfa in the styling department over any 4 door that has come out of Japan....

Test drove the Legacy.....great car. Defenitly will hold it's own