Can a 350z beat...

Can an AT 350z (with powershifting on) beat a Mustang GT?? alot of ppl here in orlando drive them f*ing Mustangs around :)

are you talking about a stock 350z vs. a stock Mustang GT? if so then i would say yes

im talking stock 350z Automatic vs. stock mustang GT Manual. will it still beat it using sport shifting?

it should

ok thanks

careful, mustangs with sport shifting can be quiet fast. Damn those V8s... :P

depends, stock for stock i would think that the gt would edge u out! but i dont know considering i have never encountered a 350z b4! but most of the gt around here are not stock, well atleast all the ones that i run into arent! but if u would like we can run and i will tell u how u compare!
good luck with them though :)

stang 260hp and 302tq. 3273 lbs. manual 0-60/5.8
350z 287hp and 274tq. 3239 lbs. auto 0-60/ 5.4
350z should bet them?

Import Power...

350z

granted I do have a manual and I am damn good at shifting, but I also had 170 lbs in my passenger seat and I still killed a Mustang GT long time ago when the AF 350Z was stock.

nice nice... by AF350 are u refering to the one on the top of the webpage?

Hands down the Z would win

or so it should

wtf no....mustangs dont go 0-60 in 5.8, my bro has a mustang GT and it is 270 hp because he added a bassani exaust, it goes 0-60 in 5.4 or 5.3, and 10 hp doesnt make it go .4 seconds faster

he also has a short shifter on it with alot of other good stuff

he also has a short shifter on it with alot of other good stuff

well if he has alot of other good stuff. that could explain why it dropped 0.4 seconds. mustangs are low 14 second cars in the 1/4 mile. and they are quicker off the start than they are from 40-90. so im guessing that the mustang does run a little lower of a 0-60 time. more like 5.5 stock.

lets see here, 14.8 plus exhaust, short shifter, prolly a drop in filter charger, and some other shit... yup I'd say about a .4sec drop in times...
Yea' aplause for the smart people of the world

other shit as in suspension, that doesnt do anything for acceleration

its a 2002 mustang GT

suspension can do a lot for acelleration actually. lessen wheel hop off the line. makes the rear end stick more. weight transfer. suspension can help alot with take off. thats why there is always more to a car than an engine. you know what i mean?

well it still was 5.4 or 5.3 without it

plus mustangs have more torque, thats make a big difference

and lowering your car increases acceleration (barely) by decreasing the total surface area in the wind

as i said, it still was 5.4 before the stuff, and i pretty much know its the same now. my bro lowered his mustang 2 inches

those numbers are from diff. web sites and those were the most common for STOCK cars

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oh and what are the stars under everyones name and how do you get more of them?

if a mustang can catch up with a turbo 911, and beat a 206 corvette, i think the mustang will win against the 350z

if a mustang can catch up with a turbo 911, and beat a 206 corvette, i think the mustang will win against the 350z

A Mustang cant. Maybe a cobra on a good day. A GT had no way of doing that without serious work.

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oh and what are the stars under everyones name and how do you get more of them?

those starts symbolize how many posts you have made. the more you post the more stars you get. also, the "AF newbie" will go away.

if a mustang can catch up with a turbo 911, and beat a 206 corvette, i think the mustang will win against the 350z

im not even really going to respond to this. all as i got to say is check your numbers over again.

BTW: beings the fastest i have ever seen a stock GT run is in the low 14's and the fastest i have seen a stock 350z run is mid 13's. i am going to say that the 350z will be it until you can prove me wrong.

another BTW: a z06 runs in the 12's if im not mistaken. im not sure about the 911 turbo. you find me a stock GT that will beat a zo6 i will retract every previous statement i have made.

stang 260hp and 302tq. 3273 lbs. manual 0-60/5.8
350z 287hp and 274tq. 3239 lbs. auto 0-60/ 5.4
350z should bet them?

:screwy: Smoking crack :smokin:

What kinda moron races 0-60??? Think quarter mile times :loser:

I'm all for the 350Z But we're talking about an automatic here.... Not change in hell the 350 could win this one.... Unless.... The driver of the mustang was handicaped with no hands and he's unable to make the shift to second gear. :rolleyes:

These numbers don't even reflect what's really going to happen on a race track but if this is all were going on the try this.... 0-60 time are pretty much recorded in 1st and 2nd gear trasitions. In some cases depending on how the car is geared you could do 60mph in 1st gear all the way up to redline. Next thing... Stop looking at Horsepower as an end all figure for speed. Yes.. It plays something into the equation but not more then torque which is the real calculation for forces being applied here.In other words... The mustang will have more pull throughout it's usable power band.
Now lets talk about your "automatic"... Sport shift "on or not". you'll still lose .5 seconds or more off your reaction time over that of the same car with a stick, cuz thats just the nature of the beast. Automatics rob power.
Now since we're throwing out stats left and right... What is the power band for both car? Which car is making what power and what rpm??? :rolleyes:

Like I said... I'm all about the 350Z but I'm also realistic. It's not the Holly Grail of cars....

My Z32tt is :biggrin:

i dont know about that havoc. like i said before. those 0-60 numbers arent real life. those are from car and driver or some shit. nissan's automatic do not rob that much power from the engine. nissan designs there automatics to run almost as fast as there manual (the z32TT automatic is just as fast as the manual and dont let the manual driver make even the slightest mistake). it will not rob .5 seconds. i have never seen a stock GT run a mid 13 stock but i have seen 350z's do it. i think the AF 350z ran a 13.6 when it was stock. granted it was a manual but i have also seen automatics run 13.8's at the track.

you are right that 0-60's have no relevance to who will win in a 1/4 mile race but i think to settle this argument they will have to race and find out.

BTW: doesnt the sport shift in the 350z work just like a ALC? it keeps pressure in the line producing more solid and precise shifts. with an ALC on an automatic tranny it will be able to shift faster and more precise than anyone could with their hands and feet. unless they are superhuman.

BTW: doesnt the sport shift in the 350z work just like a ALC? it keeps pressure in the line producing more solid and precise shifts. with an ALC on an automatic tranny it will be able to shift faster and more precise than anyone could with their hands and feet. unless they are superhuman.

I stand corrected...

A Mustang cant. Maybe a cobra on a good day. A GT had no way of doing that without serious work.
well he did beat one, and a cobra would really smoke a corvette. Either the guy who was driving the corvette was new at stick, or just really sucked. But I highly doubt that, plus who cares, I still say the mustang will beat a 350z

are you sure the corvette was racing or playing? corvettes are 12 to very low 13 second cars, hence why they cost twice as much as a mustang GT.

http://corvetteactioncenter.com/specs/2001/2001specs.html

even the base model corvette runs a 13.22 and im sure thats a little slower than whats is possible.

are you sure the corvette was racing or playing? corvettes are 12 to very low 13 second cars, hence why they cost twice as much as a mustang GT.

http://corvetteactioncenter.com/specs/2001/2001specs.html

even the base model corvette runs a 13.22 and im sure thats a little slower than whats is possible.

:rolleyes: Last time I checked a Rolls Royce cost 100x as much as a mustang and even has a much bigger motor than the corvette but, I'd still bet on the mustang to whip the snot out of one in a race. :biggrin:

Just because a car cost more doesn't make it faster. On the other hand though... My brother has an 89 vette thats pretty much bone stock with 1 bad injector and, he eats mustang cobras for lunch at least once a week at the night races.
Although..... I don't think he's raced a new one yet. :smokin:

yes..i can list many cars that are more expensive than vettes and stangs and 350z but arent faster. money has nothing to do with anything. i shouldnt have brought it in to the conversation.

mustangs are cheap to buy, there like one of the best sport cars for a low price. there fast, and a fun car to drive. STOCK is 0-60 in about 5.3 or 5.4, and I know that for a fact.

yes i think we all can agree with you there except for when you said mustang and sports car in the same sentence. the mustang is NOT a sports car. there is more to a sports car than displacement and 1/4 mile speed.

how is not a sports car! if u say its a muscle car i shal.. *censored*

really, so the automatic/sport shifter is almost better then shifting manually as long as you understand the power band of the car and realize ur shift points?
if so is this the same for the G35(or the G35x to b exact)?

really, so the automatic/sport shifter is almost better then shifting manually as long as you understand the power band of the car and realize ur shift points?
if so is this the same for the G35(or the G35x to b exact)?

should be if it is the same set-up. dont take what i said about the sport shifting as a sure thing. i was just saying if the sport shifting is set-up like an aftermarket Automatic Line Controller (ALC) then it will shift faster than a manual can and shift much more harder than any other automatic. i dont exactly know how the sport shifting on the nissan/infiniti's are set-up but it seems to me that it is set-up like an ALC, which increases line pressure.

how is not a sports car! if u say its a muscle car i shal.. *censored*
i wouldnt call it a muscle car either. not enough muscle. it is a quick affordable 2 door car. kinda sporty (like hyundai tiburon sporty)but not a sports car. sports cars can excel at everything. corvettes for example are sports cars in my mind because they are very quick with good potential but also can take corners along with some of the best. 350z is quick and can corner. z32TT excels at everything. s2000. these are more of your sports cars. also not to mention great weight distribution, balance, looks, etc.

you take a corner doing 40-65 mph in a mustang GT and tell me what the car looks like afterwards.

im not trying to rag on mustangs i am just pointing out simple things that are over looked by some veiwers. my feeling torwards the mustang is that it is one hell of a brand new car for the price tag thats on it. its not a bad car but it can not be put into the same class as a 350z or corvette. just my 2 cents.

koo koo, now this is something I've never heard of... where would someone pick up one of these aftermarket ALC's, are they kinda like the equivelent to yesteryear's Hearst 400turbo shifters and so forth???
As far as the mustang deal I would totally have to agree with you... definately not sports cars, sporty looks especialy for the price tag maybe depending on your taste, but not sports cars...

http://www.conceptzperformance.com/Cart/description.php?II=256&Car_Type=300&UID=2004100608175967.163.67.66

here is one for a 300zx just to give you an idea of what it is but i cannot find one for the 350z after a couple of searches on google. this leaves me to believe in my first thought there is a stock unit that works the same way as an aftermarket ALC.

Here's a good rule of thumb boys and girl...

If your car comes with cupholders... It's Not A Sports Car. :smokin:

you take a corner doing 40-65 mph in a mustang GT and tell me what the car looks like afterwards.
the mustang handled a 55 mph turn and it did it fine. (before he added the suspensiom, of course)

lol, true that my 300zx TT doesn't have cupholders heh heh heh.

u guys are making the mustang sound like as if it was some family car

dude...your just taking it the wrong way. we are not saying the mustang is a bad car. we are not saying it isnt fast for the money. we are just simply pointing out to you that the mustang isnt in the same class as a 350z in which it shouldnt be for the price tag. it will decimate just about anything in its price range and its class.

it might be able to keep up pretty well with a 350z in 1/4 mile but that is only one aspect of what a car is.

the mustang handled a 55 mph turn and it did it fine. (before he added the suspensiom, of course)

i meant a real corner like 90 degree corner, hairpin. not a curve on the highway. :D

for like 22k, your getting 0-60 in 5.4 and 1/4 mile in 13.7 (sumthing around there, i forget)

btw im talking about the mustang GT, not the regular ones.

of course not a curve on a highway! i mean a real turn, it took it at 55 and it did it fine

yeah i know which mustang you were talking about and i was just jokin with you about the turn. the point was that the mustang is known to be that good of a handling car. more of a straight line car. i didnt think that the mustang ran a 13.7 though. i thought it was alittle higher than that. oh well. i would hope your not talking about the 6cyl mustang. i dont think that could keep up with a 18 passenger van. lol.

a v8 mustang gt of course, my bro is going to to test it out on the track. his 1/4 mile and 0-60. in 8 days, ill tell u whats the final tests are. Maybe even top speed, hehe

CORRECTION! he got smoked by a 911 turbo, MY bad.

here is what he has for the suspension..

# MM Strut Tower Brace 4
# MM 4-Point K-Member Brace
# MM Full Length Subframe Connectors
# MM Panhard Bar with Aluminum Rod
# MM Heavy-duty Rear Lower Control Arms
# Hypercoil race coil over springs
# Front and rear andjustable height coil over conversion kit
# Bilstein sport valved front struts
# Bilstein sport valved rear shocks
# MM Caster/Camber Plates 4
# MM Urethane Pinion Snubber
# Front spring isolators
# Rear spring isolators# Solid Steering Shaft
# MM Aluminum Rack Bushings, center drilled
# Front Swaybar bushings
# Front Swaybar end link bushing kit
# Front control arm bushings, urethane

If he adds 4.10 gear ratios it would take the 350z in 1/4 mile no doubt.
The suspension he added saved about 250-300 pounds on the car. He told me he raced his friends 350z and Sti at work, the Sti beat them but he said that he beat the 350z by about half a car length, they raced to about 115 MPH, thats with the stock gear ratio, the 4.10's are gonna be put on soon.

sounds more clear to me now. yeah with new gearing he should will definitely beat the 350z off the start but dont be surprised if the 350z starts to catch him laster in the race. 1/4 mile...the mustang will get the 350z with the gearing change but maybe a race to 135, the 350z might slowly start to creep back in the race. it all sounds good to me.

yea, but the STi owns, i have an STi myself, hehe.

Hi you guys might remember me i started the thread..lol, havent looked into this lately and wow ppl really have responded, Thanks for all the info guys, and BTW i just recenty got into my first street race and i beat the shit outa a Mustang GT, best feeling in the world if someone out there hasnt done it. =)

Yeah it is, specialy in an Altima 3.5SE :naughty: Stupidly quick family car....

Hi you guys might remember me i started the thread..lol, havent looked into this lately and wow ppl really have responded, Thanks for all the info guys, and BTW i just recenty got into my first street race and i beat the shit outa a Mustang GT, best feeling in the world if someone out there hasnt done it. =)
they must of sucked at stick, or it was an auto

I can't get any mustangs to race me where i am from.

why?

Obviously he doesn't have the same antsy head strong rednecks like in certains other places...

Yeah I'm not politicaly correct :smokin:

NOTE! This friday I will go with my Brother to the track to test his 1/4 mile along with 0-60. HE IS NOT using stock tires! He will be using -245 ZR-rated Goodyear Eagle F1's all around

Hell I don't know. Probably because I have the only Z in town as far as I know. And I love my car but I know it's not really a 1/4 mile car (at least that's not what I'm building it for), but the ppl here think it does Z06 numbers, lol. I've tried to race vettes just to see how much faster they are and I can't get them to race either. Now stupid rice cavailers flash there lights at me all the time. and I don't wanna lose. You all know how fast a rwd car is with a big f-ing wing. :nono:

Plus there just isn't as many places to race out here and I am not going to look for 17 yo kids to race against. Last thing I need is some kid losing control and plowing in to me. or again to be losing to a cavialer and have the wing fly off because his type r/greddy sticker kicks in :22yikes: