camber kits, does brand really matter?
henry matyjewicz
06-10-2004, 09:03 AM
I've been shopping around online for some camber kits but before I buy any I wanted to know if brand really mattered when it comes to buying a set? There are tons of different price ranges. And all kinds of brands like skunk2 and ingalls to the no name brands. I've even read about guys making there own rear camber kit.
boosted k20
06-10-2004, 09:46 AM
what kinda car do u have by the way? the only camber kits that u need to buy is for the fronts. you can make your own for the rears by buying a set of bolts and washers.
you just need to place washers behind the rear upper control arm. theres a website out there that tells u how to do it.
http://www.g2ic.com/tegtips/brakesus/4.html
i have dropzone front camber kits on my car. there the ones that you see all the time on ebay for around 70 bucks. let me tell u that they suck. i shoulda saved up my money and purchased the ingalls camber kit. the dropzone camber kit i baught for 65 bucks. they look just like the ingalls but are cheaper in quality. i had to fix them over this weekend because the bushing/collar for the camber kit came loose, which made my whole front upper control arm move foward and backwards anytime i accelerated or hit the brake. i had to put washers by the camber kit so that it wouldnt move anymore. the problem is fixed though but i still shoulda gotton the ingalls camber kit
you just need to place washers behind the rear upper control arm. theres a website out there that tells u how to do it.
http://www.g2ic.com/tegtips/brakesus/4.html
i have dropzone front camber kits on my car. there the ones that you see all the time on ebay for around 70 bucks. let me tell u that they suck. i shoulda saved up my money and purchased the ingalls camber kit. the dropzone camber kit i baught for 65 bucks. they look just like the ingalls but are cheaper in quality. i had to fix them over this weekend because the bushing/collar for the camber kit came loose, which made my whole front upper control arm move foward and backwards anytime i accelerated or hit the brake. i had to put washers by the camber kit so that it wouldnt move anymore. the problem is fixed though but i still shoulda gotton the ingalls camber kit
loesch8102
06-10-2004, 11:53 PM
I'll be installing a Skunk2 front kit on my car probably some time next week, whenever it gets here, so I'll let you know how that works out. They aren't too much more than the Ingalls kit on eBay so I figured I'd try that route...We'll see what happens. If you try the rear bolt technique, make sure to get at least a grade eight bolt.
BullShifter
06-11-2004, 12:52 AM
As always stick with name brand when it comes to suspension.
henry matyjewicz
06-11-2004, 06:14 AM
I have a 95 civic ex with skunk2 coilovers dropped about an inch and a half. I'm also slapping on a set of 18's. I brought this thread up because I was wondering, since bolts and washers are good enough for the back why should it matter what brand you have for the front if it all does the same thing.
As always stick with name brand when it comes to suspension.
I would agree with you if we were talking about springs or shocks, but for some reason I don't think it matters with camber kits. Suspension parts such as springs and shocks take a beating so I can see the logic in buying quality there. But then again I'm not 100% sure which is why I started this thread in the first place.
As always stick with name brand when it comes to suspension.
I would agree with you if we were talking about springs or shocks, but for some reason I don't think it matters with camber kits. Suspension parts such as springs and shocks take a beating so I can see the logic in buying quality there. But then again I'm not 100% sure which is why I started this thread in the first place.
Icantgetno
06-11-2004, 07:47 AM
I would agree with you if we were talking about springs or shocks, but for some reason I don't think it matters with camber kits. Suspension parts such as springs and shocks take a beating so I can see the logic in buying quality there. But then again I'm not 100% sure which is why I started this thread in the first place.
Just because the springs and shocks absorb impact the energy itseslf gets dissipated throught the car (ever have your teeth rattle from a big pothole?) the closer you get to the impact point (the tires) the more intense the engery transfered through the component. A majority of the camber kits out there modify the upper control arm, this is a major suspension piece and I would only consider a component manufactured with a high level of QC and a solid reputation.
Just because the springs and shocks absorb impact the energy itseslf gets dissipated throught the car (ever have your teeth rattle from a big pothole?) the closer you get to the impact point (the tires) the more intense the engery transfered through the component. A majority of the camber kits out there modify the upper control arm, this is a major suspension piece and I would only consider a component manufactured with a high level of QC and a solid reputation.
henry matyjewicz
06-12-2004, 08:52 AM
...A majority of the camber kits out there modify the upper control arm, this is a major suspension piece and I would only consider a component manufactured with a high level of QC and a solid reputation.
Ok, since you used big words and it all seemed to make sense then you should know of a particular brand(s) that might work well. Thanks
Ok, since you used big words and it all seemed to make sense then you should know of a particular brand(s) that might work well. Thanks
tran_nsx
06-12-2004, 11:37 AM
ingalls
BullShifter
06-12-2004, 02:50 PM
I would agree with you if we were talking about springs or shocks, but for some reason I don't think it matters with camber kits. Suspension parts such as springs and shocks take a beating so I can see the logic in buying quality there. But then again I'm not 100% sure which is why I started this thread in the first place.
Control arms take as much beating as struts/springs. There's a difference low quality unengineered parts & there are high quality engineered parts - take your pick. Do it the cheap way now and you will pay later!
Control arms take as much beating as struts/springs. There's a difference low quality unengineered parts & there are high quality engineered parts - take your pick. Do it the cheap way now and you will pay later!
BlackCiv00
06-14-2004, 03:28 PM
hey henry, how do you like your skunk2 setup?? i slapped 18's on my civic and have yet to decide on a suspension setup. you say you have a 1.5 drop, which is what i am looking for. i dont wanna drop my car too much since my rear driver side wheel seems to rub on something when i have weight in the back.
if anyone can give me advise, that would be kool. about my rear, i was swiped by some dude trying to run from some cops and ended up hitting me. anyways, cars fixed, no money from my end, but ever since that fateful day, lol, that one side rubs. i have been told to put in a 1 or 2mm spacer. what do you suspension guys think....i honestly dont know where it rubs since my tire is wearing out even.....im fucking confused here.
if anyone can give me advise, that would be kool. about my rear, i was swiped by some dude trying to run from some cops and ended up hitting me. anyways, cars fixed, no money from my end, but ever since that fateful day, lol, that one side rubs. i have been told to put in a 1 or 2mm spacer. what do you suspension guys think....i honestly dont know where it rubs since my tire is wearing out even.....im fucking confused here.
scallywag
06-15-2004, 12:19 AM
I have a 95 civic ex with skunk2 coilovers dropped about an inch and a half. I'm also slapping on a set of 18's. I brought this thread up because I was wondering, since bolts and washers are good enough for the back why should it matter what brand you have for the front if it all does the same thing.
I would agree with you if we were talking about springs or shocks, but for some reason I don't think it matters with camber kits. Suspension parts such as springs and shocks take a beating so I can see the logic in buying quality there. But then again I'm not 100% sure which is why I started this thread in the first place.
If you are only dropping 1.5 inches you probably will not need a camber kit, really unless you drop more than 1.75-2.0 you don't need one. Especially since you have 18's. Bigger rims create posotive camber, and dropping you car will create negetive camber, the bigger the rims the more posotive you will get out of it. I dropped 2'' front and back, on 17's and I was barely out of factory spec in the front, and I was in in the back. So you will def be ok with 18's on 1.5' You would even probably be ok at 2' drop on those 18's!
I would agree with you if we were talking about springs or shocks, but for some reason I don't think it matters with camber kits. Suspension parts such as springs and shocks take a beating so I can see the logic in buying quality there. But then again I'm not 100% sure which is why I started this thread in the first place.
If you are only dropping 1.5 inches you probably will not need a camber kit, really unless you drop more than 1.75-2.0 you don't need one. Especially since you have 18's. Bigger rims create posotive camber, and dropping you car will create negetive camber, the bigger the rims the more posotive you will get out of it. I dropped 2'' front and back, on 17's and I was barely out of factory spec in the front, and I was in in the back. So you will def be ok with 18's on 1.5' You would even probably be ok at 2' drop on those 18's!
henry matyjewicz
06-15-2004, 12:59 PM
hey henry, how do you like your skunk2 setup?? i slapped 18's on my civic and have yet to decide on a suspension setup. you say you have a 1.5 drop, which is what i am looking for. i dont wanna drop my car too much since my rear driver side wheel seems to rub on something when i have weight in the back.
I actually havn't put my 18's on yet. I'm trying to get as much info before i actually put them on. But they have been on since I bought the car 2 years ago with 16's on. they work fine, nice performance feel when driving. I've heard many things about Tein brand. As soon as I install the wheels I'll let you know. Check as many back posts in this thread as possible. You'll find tons of good info. Camber kit is prob the most important thing to get next with your 18's then an alignment.
I actually havn't put my 18's on yet. I'm trying to get as much info before i actually put them on. But they have been on since I bought the car 2 years ago with 16's on. they work fine, nice performance feel when driving. I've heard many things about Tein brand. As soon as I install the wheels I'll let you know. Check as many back posts in this thread as possible. You'll find tons of good info. Camber kit is prob the most important thing to get next with your 18's then an alignment.
BlackCiv00
06-15-2004, 01:15 PM
yeah, i have been reading old posts but i rarely come by with a civic, or any other honda, with 18's on this site...maybe im using the wrong words in the search. most of the people i see here prefer 15's or 16's. some like 17's but mostly for show. i like the way the 18's look and honestly (it might just be me) but i feel the ride smoother now than when i had my 17's. anyways, i was planning on getting a camber kit as well with my suspension set up. hopefully i can find a good shop here in NYC that can do my alignment and calibrate my camber kit while they at it. as of right now, im leaning more torwards Tokico Illuminas with the springs that come with it. or should i just get the shocks/struts and get the eibach springs?? if so, which eibach springs??....i really dont want too much of a drop since its my daily driver car til i get a new car.
CivicSiRacer
06-16-2004, 07:25 AM
I've ha done problem with my SKunk2 like everyone mentioned, but mine started this year after having them on the car for two years is the bolts slip.
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