conv. 240sx nissan skyline R33/R34 full conversion
rola76
05-09-2004, 07:41 PM
Hi guys,
I wanted your honest opinion from the 240sx pros regarding the comsetics looks of converting a convertible 240sx to a R33/R34 Nissan skyline.
The reason why I'm starting this thread is that I've been living in Japan for about 1.2 years and of all the cars I've seen, it would be great to see it a skyline as a convertible. The 240sx is a little narrower and shorter than the stock skyline but the body lines seem close enough to match and with a few strokes of the torch, it should work out ok. Also, the 240sx is an awesome platform to start off with, not to mention a beautiful looking cockpit!! I've already purchsed enough parts to build 3 skylines:
1 R34 GTR
1 R33 GTR
1 R34 4 door sedan
Well the GTR's won't be GTR's until I get the engines and transmission and other parts that go with it. But as far as body panels, lights and what not, I've already got those.
I've thought about importing but after looking into it, it's just way to expensive.
Thanks for your opinion everyone!!!
Drive safe!
I wanted your honest opinion from the 240sx pros regarding the comsetics looks of converting a convertible 240sx to a R33/R34 Nissan skyline.
The reason why I'm starting this thread is that I've been living in Japan for about 1.2 years and of all the cars I've seen, it would be great to see it a skyline as a convertible. The 240sx is a little narrower and shorter than the stock skyline but the body lines seem close enough to match and with a few strokes of the torch, it should work out ok. Also, the 240sx is an awesome platform to start off with, not to mention a beautiful looking cockpit!! I've already purchsed enough parts to build 3 skylines:
1 R34 GTR
1 R33 GTR
1 R34 4 door sedan
Well the GTR's won't be GTR's until I get the engines and transmission and other parts that go with it. But as far as body panels, lights and what not, I've already got those.
I've thought about importing but after looking into it, it's just way to expensive.
Thanks for your opinion everyone!!!
Drive safe!
stealthj
05-09-2004, 08:04 PM
wow living in japan, unlimited amounts of 180's and silvias...
i think it will look amazing, i think a lowered stock silvia convertible looks amazing man, keep us updated with pics with whatever u wanna do, but yeah there is my honest opinion, go for it and im sure it will look amazing...good luck
i think it will look amazing, i think a lowered stock silvia convertible looks amazing man, keep us updated with pics with whatever u wanna do, but yeah there is my honest opinion, go for it and im sure it will look amazing...good luck
Suislide
05-09-2004, 08:06 PM
how come just cause he lives in Japan (supposedly), he gets your respect? yet anyone else asking this same question gets flamed?
i'll give the same answer. just buy a Skyline, and get the roof professionally chopped off. it's easier, and probably cheaper then changing an entirely different car to look like it.
i'll give the same answer. just buy a Skyline, and get the roof professionally chopped off. it's easier, and probably cheaper then changing an entirely different car to look like it.
stealthj
05-09-2004, 08:08 PM
how come just cause he lives in Japan (supposedly), he gets your respect? yet anyone else asking this same question gets flamed?
i'll give the same answer. just buy a Skyline, and get the roof professionally chopped off. it's easier, and probably cheaper then changing an entirely different car to look like it.
even if the bitch lived here, hed still get my respect....
he wants to make a 240 convertible look like an R34, i dont care whoever did that thats the fuckin tightest thing....
i miss my convert..... :(
i'll give the same answer. just buy a Skyline, and get the roof professionally chopped off. it's easier, and probably cheaper then changing an entirely different car to look like it.
even if the bitch lived here, hed still get my respect....
he wants to make a 240 convertible look like an R34, i dont care whoever did that thats the fuckin tightest thing....
i miss my convert..... :(
grncivicdhr
05-09-2004, 08:08 PM
i'll give the same answer. just buy a Skyline, and get the roof professionally chopped off. it's easier, and probably cheaper then changing an entirely different car to look like it.
that would be the suckiest handling skyline ever. i'm against the whole idea.
that would be the suckiest handling skyline ever. i'm against the whole idea.
SHO411
05-09-2004, 08:18 PM
Dude, did you buy three cars or just parts? I think it will be tight as hell to transform a 240 into a skyline cuz it is lighter, and smaller and with the same arsenal you might even keep up with them except for the little detail of the top notch AWD, which might be compensated with the weight saving.
Checkout the bottom of the posts 240 to r33 conversion , some guy was given a link to a dude in Florida with a 240 with an R33 conversion, it was tight.
Keep us posted with the pics.
By the way, would you consider selling the R33 lights and keeping the R34?????? :naughty:
Checkout the bottom of the posts 240 to r33 conversion , some guy was given a link to a dude in Florida with a 240 with an R33 conversion, it was tight.
Keep us posted with the pics.
By the way, would you consider selling the R33 lights and keeping the R34?????? :naughty:
rola76
05-09-2004, 08:20 PM
thanks guys,
I appreciate your opinions. There are tons of silvia and 180sx, at ridiculous prices!! That's the truth! It would be great to buy one and import it back home, but that would cost too much. I'd invite everyone to come and visit Japan. There's alot more to see than cars!! But the cars are still worth the viewing!!
Now for cost, it's acutally cheaper for me to do the conversion on a convertible 240sx than chopping the top off a skyline. The big cost reason is I want to do this when I go home next year (Oahu). It's much more cost efficient for me to do it this way than to buy a skyine and import it. I've already had a R32 GTR but I sold it due to hail damage we had this past summer :( I live north on the Honshu island and we got some crazy hail storms this past winter. That's just the way it is.
Keep me posted with your opinions!!
I'll have some pics up soon with some of my parts!!!
Oahu, island boy's coming home!!
I appreciate your opinions. There are tons of silvia and 180sx, at ridiculous prices!! That's the truth! It would be great to buy one and import it back home, but that would cost too much. I'd invite everyone to come and visit Japan. There's alot more to see than cars!! But the cars are still worth the viewing!!
Now for cost, it's acutally cheaper for me to do the conversion on a convertible 240sx than chopping the top off a skyline. The big cost reason is I want to do this when I go home next year (Oahu). It's much more cost efficient for me to do it this way than to buy a skyine and import it. I've already had a R32 GTR but I sold it due to hail damage we had this past summer :( I live north on the Honshu island and we got some crazy hail storms this past winter. That's just the way it is.
Keep me posted with your opinions!!
I'll have some pics up soon with some of my parts!!!
Oahu, island boy's coming home!!
stealthj
05-09-2004, 08:22 PM
that would be the suckiest handling skyline ever. i'm against the whole idea.
well its for looks mostly, its a convertible,,,plus all u need is a roll bar it wil be fine....
PICS PICS PICS of progress over the months!
well its for looks mostly, its a convertible,,,plus all u need is a roll bar it wil be fine....
PICS PICS PICS of progress over the months!
rola76
05-09-2004, 08:46 PM
SHO411:
Thanks for your opinion. What I have are parts only and sorry, I need my R33 lights :)
By the way do you have the link to the 240sx R33 conversion? That would be great, thanks!!!!1
Thanks for your opinion. What I have are parts only and sorry, I need my R33 lights :)
By the way do you have the link to the 240sx R33 conversion? That would be great, thanks!!!!1
mrflip69
05-10-2004, 12:25 AM
stealthj never flamed anybody for trying to do the skyline conversion.
publicenemy137
05-10-2004, 09:11 AM
i'll give the same answer. just buy a Skyline, and get the roof professionally chopped off. it's easier, and probably cheaper then changing an entirely different car to look like it.
You can't just chop off a roof, you need to make the body more solid. If you just chop off the roof, then the chassis will twist when you make sharp turns.
"The roof of a conventional car is essential to the stiffness of the chassis. The roof helps keep the car from twisting and bending. Building a car without a roof is a bit like building a suspension bridge without the cables. As such, the bottom part of the structure of a convertible has to be stiffened considerably. Heavy reinforcing brackets have to be added to the body of the car. This is why convertibles often weigh more than their fixed-roof counterparts.
If you were to cut the roof off of your car, you'd find that the body would twist a lot, especially if you were to do something like, say, drive diagonally over speed bumps. Eventually, the car would develop all sorts of squeaks and rattles and exhibit some poor handling characteristics. It's important for convertibles to have an especially sound structure to make up for the lack of a roof. "
source: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/convertible1.htm
I guess a silvia convertible would be nice, but I don't like convertibles that much. They weigh a car down and aren't as aerodynamic as their fixed-roof counterparts. For daily drivin in the summer though by the beach it'd be tight.
You can't just chop off a roof, you need to make the body more solid. If you just chop off the roof, then the chassis will twist when you make sharp turns.
"The roof of a conventional car is essential to the stiffness of the chassis. The roof helps keep the car from twisting and bending. Building a car without a roof is a bit like building a suspension bridge without the cables. As such, the bottom part of the structure of a convertible has to be stiffened considerably. Heavy reinforcing brackets have to be added to the body of the car. This is why convertibles often weigh more than their fixed-roof counterparts.
If you were to cut the roof off of your car, you'd find that the body would twist a lot, especially if you were to do something like, say, drive diagonally over speed bumps. Eventually, the car would develop all sorts of squeaks and rattles and exhibit some poor handling characteristics. It's important for convertibles to have an especially sound structure to make up for the lack of a roof. "
source: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/convertible1.htm
I guess a silvia convertible would be nice, but I don't like convertibles that much. They weigh a car down and aren't as aerodynamic as their fixed-roof counterparts. For daily drivin in the summer though by the beach it'd be tight.
TheLogikal1
05-10-2004, 09:17 AM
eh, convertables are for sissies.
publicenemy137
05-10-2004, 09:44 AM
^ yep, my sentiment also
grncivicdhr
05-10-2004, 10:02 AM
i don't know about for sissies, theres plenty of top-down cars i'd love to whip around, a 427 cobra for example. 'course thats a raodster and not a convertiable (unless you get a hard top)
SHO411
05-10-2004, 12:29 PM
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=215728&highlight=r33
This should be it, has the pic, some of the guys think it is corney but I though it was tight as hell, just needs a wide body kit and bigger wing.
Yo Rola, when you go back to J-land, I might send you with an order of some parts like head lights and the sort and give you a little extra on the side for the hassel if thats cool :naughty: . All I know is in around 2-4 months I have to decide what front end goes on my 95' 240, and some prospects are the 98' 240 front, R33', did actually consider the Mazda 6 or Integra type R headlights, but I think I will scratch that. I have no front bumper, beam, head lights, so either way I might as well go with upgrades since I'll have to buy something.
This should be it, has the pic, some of the guys think it is corney but I though it was tight as hell, just needs a wide body kit and bigger wing.
Yo Rola, when you go back to J-land, I might send you with an order of some parts like head lights and the sort and give you a little extra on the side for the hassel if thats cool :naughty: . All I know is in around 2-4 months I have to decide what front end goes on my 95' 240, and some prospects are the 98' 240 front, R33', did actually consider the Mazda 6 or Integra type R headlights, but I think I will scratch that. I have no front bumper, beam, head lights, so either way I might as well go with upgrades since I'll have to buy something.
SHO411
05-10-2004, 12:42 PM
Wouldn't an R34 require more extensive mods than an R33??? not including parts. and when doing a conversion you also need the brackets that hold the lights from the car they came from, or do you get these made?????? sorry just jumped into the 240 phase recently, not that knowlegeable.
Rola76 check PM.
Rola76 check PM.
Suislide
05-10-2004, 03:05 PM
You can't just chop off a roof, you need to make the body more solid. If you just chop off the roof, then the chassis will twist when you make sharp turns.
"The roof of a conventional car is essential to the stiffness of the chassis. The roof helps keep the car from twisting and bending. Building a car without a roof is a bit like building a suspension bridge without the cables. As such, the bottom part of the structure of a convertible has to be stiffened considerably. Heavy reinforcing brackets have to be added to the body of the car. This is why convertibles often weigh more than their fixed-roof counterparts.
If you were to cut the roof off of your car, you'd find that the body would twist a lot, especially if you were to do something like, say, drive diagonally over speed bumps. Eventually, the car would develop all sorts of squeaks and rattles and exhibit some poor handling characteristics. It's important for convertibles to have an especially sound structure to make up for the lack of a roof. "
source: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/convertible1.htm
I guess a silvia convertible would be nice, but I don't like convertibles that much. They weigh a car down and aren't as aerodynamic as their fixed-roof counterparts. For daily drivin in the summer though by the beach it'd be tight.
:rolleyes:
sorry for the UNDETAILED reply i gave.
but there's a company in SoCal that takes conventional sedans (Cadillac's, BMW 7-Series etc.) and turns them into convertibles by taking the roof off AND structuring the body better so it retains it's integrity.
i'm sorry that i didn't be so specific, but that's what i meant. :rolleyes:
"The roof of a conventional car is essential to the stiffness of the chassis. The roof helps keep the car from twisting and bending. Building a car without a roof is a bit like building a suspension bridge without the cables. As such, the bottom part of the structure of a convertible has to be stiffened considerably. Heavy reinforcing brackets have to be added to the body of the car. This is why convertibles often weigh more than their fixed-roof counterparts.
If you were to cut the roof off of your car, you'd find that the body would twist a lot, especially if you were to do something like, say, drive diagonally over speed bumps. Eventually, the car would develop all sorts of squeaks and rattles and exhibit some poor handling characteristics. It's important for convertibles to have an especially sound structure to make up for the lack of a roof. "
source: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/convertible1.htm
I guess a silvia convertible would be nice, but I don't like convertibles that much. They weigh a car down and aren't as aerodynamic as their fixed-roof counterparts. For daily drivin in the summer though by the beach it'd be tight.
:rolleyes:
sorry for the UNDETAILED reply i gave.
but there's a company in SoCal that takes conventional sedans (Cadillac's, BMW 7-Series etc.) and turns them into convertibles by taking the roof off AND structuring the body better so it retains it's integrity.
i'm sorry that i didn't be so specific, but that's what i meant. :rolleyes:
SHO411
05-10-2004, 08:10 PM
04' 745il convertible w/ 24 will be the bomb, think of the amount of pussy it'll get you
AWDSR20
05-10-2004, 09:22 PM
Not as much as my 89 240 sx !!!!.....
i gona go into the corner and cry now.......
i gona go into the corner and cry now.......
Zanark
05-10-2004, 09:44 PM
I wonder what a S14 would look like in convertible form o_O. I think the S13 Convertible with the S15 front end looks pretty sweet even though theres no damn leg room and you cant fit in the fucker lol.
rola76
05-10-2004, 09:59 PM
Thanks guys for your comments,
Positive or negative, I'm very grateful and respect all your opinions. I've always wanted to see a top down skyline and I've always loved the design of the car. That's why I've decided to overcome my hesitations of this crazy project and just start getting things together and doing it. (when I get home next year!)
It was never my intention to do a roof chop. Just like in the previous post, it's not structurally adeqauate and reinforcinment would be too much hassle. And there's no point in me doing it when there's a convertible 240sx model available. The down side is that all I've seen is automatics. I've never done a 5-spd conversion so I'm not sure if a 5-spd conversion is also in my plans (as of now).
But anyways, I'm hoping to use (2) convertibles and doing a full skyline conversion from front to back (with roll bars hopefully):
R33 GTR convertible
R34 GTR convertible
I'm also waiting for my parts to come in for a 4 door skyline conversion. This is gonna be a full conversion from front to back. I'll email some pics when I've gathered all my stuff together. And yes, I am in Japan!! (Tsuruoka, Yamagata-ken)
Drive safe everyone!!
Positive or negative, I'm very grateful and respect all your opinions. I've always wanted to see a top down skyline and I've always loved the design of the car. That's why I've decided to overcome my hesitations of this crazy project and just start getting things together and doing it. (when I get home next year!)
It was never my intention to do a roof chop. Just like in the previous post, it's not structurally adeqauate and reinforcinment would be too much hassle. And there's no point in me doing it when there's a convertible 240sx model available. The down side is that all I've seen is automatics. I've never done a 5-spd conversion so I'm not sure if a 5-spd conversion is also in my plans (as of now).
But anyways, I'm hoping to use (2) convertibles and doing a full skyline conversion from front to back (with roll bars hopefully):
R33 GTR convertible
R34 GTR convertible
I'm also waiting for my parts to come in for a 4 door skyline conversion. This is gonna be a full conversion from front to back. I'll email some pics when I've gathered all my stuff together. And yes, I am in Japan!! (Tsuruoka, Yamagata-ken)
Drive safe everyone!!
TheLogikal1
05-10-2004, 10:32 PM
yuck, s14 convertable? i mean, damn the s13 vert looks like ass, the silvia varrietta looks like ass.. why ruin the s14? thats why its the best version, cause it didnt have any sissie drop-top version
SHO411
05-11-2004, 12:00 AM
I think a targa top like the Supra will suite the S14, not to keen on conv, but still think it's a cool idea.
picture cruizing down in your drop top skyline looking at the skyline.
picture cruizing down in your drop top skyline looking at the skyline.
smokeurass
05-11-2004, 01:04 PM
targa top would look stupid...only for supra
The car isnt long enough, it will look like you a got a big chunk of your roof ripped off, whatever, it will just look horrible. I seen it on an eclipse, there not long enough!
The car isnt long enough, it will look like you a got a big chunk of your roof ripped off, whatever, it will just look horrible. I seen it on an eclipse, there not long enough!
TheLogikal1
05-11-2004, 01:43 PM
^word
why do you guys keep persisting to take off the damn roof?
why do you guys keep persisting to take off the damn roof?
Chuki_breath
05-11-2004, 02:06 PM
yea i think it would look ugly as hell too....as i sit here and look at my 240 and imagine the roof missing makes me wonder where u guys get ur drugs cuz they must be damn good to make u think it looks good. Or did u guys plan on having naked girls hanging out the top then it might look a little bit better.
SHO411
05-11-2004, 07:27 PM
Actually you guyz are wrong and right, I looked at my S14 and the roof is too long for a Targa, and the rounded back of the S14 will not suit a Conv unless the Body kit is modified, I just say that and 240 to skyline Conv is the bomb what ever it is.
Secondly you are wrong cuz I don't do drugs, I am actually drunk, been drunk for the past week, thats how I can actually live with my self so there you have it, my project is at a stand still, I can't find cars to work on, and I don't have a freaking job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Secondly you are wrong cuz I don't do drugs, I am actually drunk, been drunk for the past week, thats how I can actually live with my self so there you have it, my project is at a stand still, I can't find cars to work on, and I don't have a freaking job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheLogikal1
05-11-2004, 10:11 PM
I am actually drunk, been drunk for the past week, thats how I can actually live with my self
youre my kind of guy
youre my kind of guy
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