Who says the Z32 can't drift?
1viadrft
05-03-2004, 04:08 PM
Thought this was kinda neat... I don't remember who but someone once said they were too heavy to drift! Cool pix!
http://www.escort-us.com/img/BM3.JPG
http://www.escort-us.com/img/DRIFTZ2.JPG
Sadly... I missed this issue! :banghead:
http://www.escort-us.com/img/BM3.JPG
http://www.escort-us.com/img/DRIFTZ2.JPG
Sadly... I missed this issue! :banghead:
Mike (M3)
05-03-2004, 04:14 PM
nice car
flylwsi
05-03-2004, 04:43 PM
no one said they couldn't, just that you'd need to take TONS of weight out...
they're heavy.
that's all...
;)
they're heavy.
that's all...
;)
1viadrft
05-03-2004, 04:55 PM
I can get my ride to slide a lil'... on the DH. I usually can get her to swing around using weight transfer or by using WOT on a corner... not so hard and that's stock weight on a 2+2!!!!
flylwsi
05-03-2004, 05:17 PM
it's one thing to get it out, it's another to keep it out there and swing through a series of corners... ;)
i can get my prelude to swing out, but i'm not drifting...
i can get my prelude to swing out, but i'm not drifting...
1viadrft
05-03-2004, 06:00 PM
SHADDUP! :thefinger I CAN link corners! I'm not dynamic drifting or anything! It's just that I'm on the verge of GRIP/DRIFT!
Anyhow... nice pic, huh? :naughty:
Anyhow... nice pic, huh? :naughty:
Boss San
05-03-2004, 06:07 PM
I'm sure the Fairlady in that mag. isn't an automatic.
1viadrft
05-03-2004, 06:13 PM
HaHaHaHa... you funny like clown. Make me giggle! Hahahahaha!
Suislide
05-03-2004, 08:00 PM
yeah. i never said they couldn't drift at all. i said in stock form, they are too heavy to drift. take out shitloads of weight, and almost anything can drift (Skylines, Z32's, Supra's, Z31's, JZZ30 Soarer's...they're all heavy-ass cars but all can and have drifted with lots of automotive Jenny Craig).
the automatic also adds alot of weight, so your car is probably even worse off...although the VG30DETT is heavier then the NA one, so there's alot of different combos. either way, the car can drift, but with alot of weight loss.
the automatic also adds alot of weight, so your car is probably even worse off...although the VG30DETT is heavier then the NA one, so there's alot of different combos. either way, the car can drift, but with alot of weight loss.
joebowlr21
05-03-2004, 09:46 PM
YOu guys shouldn't be so harsh on auto's. I don't remember what Vol. but option video turned an automatic s13 into a killer drift machine while keeping it auto.does anyone remember that vol. cuz i want to buy it.
Bunta
05-03-2004, 09:54 PM
Bottom line: automatics can go fast, we see it happen every day. SUV's can drift, they do it all the time (unintentionally). Anything is pretty much possible when it comes to cars.
But no true driver would choose an automatic over a manual transmission. I'm not suggesting that 1via chose the auto, he probably just bought the car because 300ZX's look good in red.
I would rather have a front wheel drive car with a manual transmission than an FR with an automatic. Unless, of course, that car was a Jensen Interceptor.
But no true driver would choose an automatic over a manual transmission. I'm not suggesting that 1via chose the auto, he probably just bought the car because 300ZX's look good in red.
I would rather have a front wheel drive car with a manual transmission than an FR with an automatic. Unless, of course, that car was a Jensen Interceptor.
publicenemy137
05-03-2004, 10:05 PM
what about SC300's drift, those are extremely heavy cars. Weigh around 3500 lbs. I see em in drift videos too. It could even be the SC400, which weighs 3700 lbs. Do they have good weight balance and handling ability? My bro has one, he says it's heavy as shit and handles pretty good but not as good as my 240sx
gigglesnirt
05-03-2004, 10:28 PM
wow thats cool, but its easy to break the grip in your tires, keeping it there is why it has to be light, when in a corner trying to do grip racing, if the car is to heavy tire grip will break
Bunta
05-03-2004, 10:36 PM
The SC300/400 should be a decent drift car because it is probably pretty nose heavy. The longer wheelbase helps with stability while drifting. Just look at the early nineties BMW M5's that can almost sustain as long a drift as the dreaded Evo.
1viadrft
05-04-2004, 10:50 AM
I actually was not gonna buy my Z as an AT... my previous cars were MT: my '93 240SX coupe and my SER. But I got a good price on her and she is a beauty of a car! Clean inside and out ('cept for some previous ricer boy owner spary painting some of the interior trim). I really wanna swap her over to MT and a possibly swap the mototr for a TT. This cost much-much money... and I'm in no hurry. I kinda look at my Z as a long-term project. I hope to get her into some 'hardcore' drifting in the future.
joebowlr21
05-04-2004, 01:43 PM
Once u master drifting the Z32 1via, you will be able to drift a boat.Hell as heay as it is, it's going to be a challenging project but those are always the best once completed.I myself am starting on a project drift car/sleeper with my base as a somewhat good condition Hachi-roku. Me an my buddy are going to be swapping in a 4AGZE in the next few weeks.Can't wait to fire her up!
1viadrft
05-04-2004, 02:09 PM
That's cool! I always wanted a Hachi... I was eye-balling a red GTS over here a few months ago. Nice! Yeah... well if all goes well, I'll get my MT! But for now I'll just grip drive on the touge... Just started a Car Club: The Crazy 88's! Only three cars so far: My Z, an S12 Turbo, and JZA70 Supra NA. I used to drift my S13 so I know the basics of getting my car sideways... so hopefully soon I'll be sliding my Z32!!! I already got some suspension mods in mind....
1viadrft
05-04-2004, 05:22 PM
BTW... did you find out which OPTION volume that was???
Boss San
05-04-2004, 05:33 PM
Can't argue with the fact that the car is nice. Needs some three piece wheels though.
Anybody know what kind of hp the SC400 puts out? It is one of the only Japanese v-8's and was just wondering how they stack up to something like a smallblock Chevy v-8?
Anybody know what kind of hp the SC400 puts out? It is one of the only Japanese v-8's and was just wondering how they stack up to something like a smallblock Chevy v-8?
1viadrft
05-04-2004, 05:38 PM
Can't argue with the fact that the car is nice. Needs some three piece wheels though.
Anybody know what kind of hp the SC400 puts out? It is one of the only Japanese v-8's and was just wondering how they stack up to something like a smallblock Chevy v-8?
Which car is nice looking? All Z32's are dope! I think the SC's put out like 260HP... stock. Maybe more....
Anybody know what kind of hp the SC400 puts out? It is one of the only Japanese v-8's and was just wondering how they stack up to something like a smallblock Chevy v-8?
Which car is nice looking? All Z32's are dope! I think the SC's put out like 260HP... stock. Maybe more....
publicenemy137
05-04-2004, 05:56 PM
yea the SC400's put out 260 hp stock, 260 lbs of torque. my bro likes it alot, it's a real heavy car (3700 lbs) so it's not like it dips
Suislide
05-04-2004, 09:45 PM
i want an SC with a 2JZ in it...h0tn355.
joebowlr21
05-04-2004, 11:54 PM
Actually 1via, it's no an option video. It's Option 2 and it's one of the first few video's that came out right before Evo7 tuning i believe.I'm looking for it now but everyone wants like 26bucks for the tape....ahhh!
1viadrft
05-05-2004, 10:45 AM
Let me know, yo!
Boss San
05-05-2004, 05:58 PM
The Z. It's looks like it's in pretty good shape. Mabye get a full rub down on the paint to get it good and shiny. More so.
The SC's are cool looin' too. I'd just never get one because of the weight. Same goes for the Z, cool but, as far as the weight is concerned seems more like the Sally Struthers of drift cars.
The SC's are cool looin' too. I'd just never get one because of the weight. Same goes for the Z, cool but, as far as the weight is concerned seems more like the Sally Struthers of drift cars.
-The Stig-
05-05-2004, 09:02 PM
All I have to say on this thread George...
Is that you answered the question nobody asked... I don't think anybody said a Z32 couldn't drift. :lol:
Oh well, nice to see them out there though. I might take my S30 out and try drifting. But I'm concerned with body damage, she's too nice to bang up. :p
Is that you answered the question nobody asked... I don't think anybody said a Z32 couldn't drift. :lol:
Oh well, nice to see them out there though. I might take my S30 out and try drifting. But I'm concerned with body damage, she's too nice to bang up. :p
Soyo
05-06-2004, 12:05 AM
hmm... auto drifting,seems awkward but I'm sure its doable... probably a lot less usable techniques though
1viadrft
05-06-2004, 11:40 AM
All I have to say on this thread George...
Is that you answered the question nobody asked... I don't think anybody said a Z32 couldn't drift. :lol:
Oh well, nice to see them out there though. I might take my S30 out and try drifting. But I'm concerned with body damage, she's too nice to bang up. :p
I don't remember who it was that said it... it was a few months ago. :p
Is that you answered the question nobody asked... I don't think anybody said a Z32 couldn't drift. :lol:
Oh well, nice to see them out there though. I might take my S30 out and try drifting. But I'm concerned with body damage, she's too nice to bang up. :p
I don't remember who it was that said it... it was a few months ago. :p
7th_skyline
05-09-2004, 08:43 AM
Theres a few Z32's drifting in D1 and other high level drift in Japan...
What will disappoint you, 1viadrft, is that most of them have SR20DET or RB-series transplants. In fact I'd say theres a fair chance the red car does too........but I'd have to see the article on it to know.
What will disappoint you, 1viadrft, is that most of them have SR20DET or RB-series transplants. In fact I'd say theres a fair chance the red car does too........but I'd have to see the article on it to know.
drftk1d
05-09-2004, 10:25 PM
^ Yeah i heard of some drag z32 from i think hks that had a rb26 in it.
1viadrft
05-10-2004, 10:12 AM
Yeah... I heard that the most of the dorifto Z32's have SR20DET's. I'm not so sure about the one in the article, but I have heard of a black Z32 with it's stock VG30DETT that drifts.... I haven't seen a pic of it yet... but suppossedly it's in an OPTION2 issue.
It's true that the RB series, especially the RB26DETT is getting mighty popular and a common swap for the Z32. Of course... most are converted to RWD to cut down on cost. Maybe this swap will get as popular as the SR20DET transplant in the USDM S13-S14? That would be kinda cool.... me with a SKYLINE powered Z!
It's true that the RB series, especially the RB26DETT is getting mighty popular and a common swap for the Z32. Of course... most are converted to RWD to cut down on cost. Maybe this swap will get as popular as the SR20DET transplant in the USDM S13-S14? That would be kinda cool.... me with a SKYLINE powered Z!
drftk1d
05-10-2004, 12:29 PM
Isn't it true that the rb25 and z32 na use the same transmission? If thats true, then go for it.
1viadrft
05-10-2004, 05:32 PM
Isn't it true that the rb25 and z32 na use the same transmission? If thats true, then go for it.
I heard the same: that all RB's can bolt right onto the VG's tranny.... but I thought it may just be a rumor.... I dunno.
I heard the same: that all RB's can bolt right onto the VG's tranny.... but I thought it may just be a rumor.... I dunno.
drftk1d
05-12-2004, 10:56 PM
Well, assuming you'd want to drift, would'nt you want a manual tranny (your z32 IS auto, right?). Then you'd have to get the manual transmission AND driveshaft, among other shit liek clutch cylinders an shit ( i think thats how nissan made thier trannys). Sounds cool, but expensive. But i think that a rb25 weighs less than the vg30dett and is less expensive? ( i dont know cuz i dont really deal with nissans anymore)
Layla's Keeper
05-13-2004, 01:39 AM
Were I a Z32 driver with aspirations and the budget to go Pro Drifting, I'd flat out stick with the VQ30DETT as my weapon. The big challenge with that engine is its packaging. Luckily I, unlike most import guys, have familiarity with clipping a chassis and completely revamping it with tube frame clips.
Forget everything the magazines have told you, you want to drop an engine lower in the chassis, get some room for bigger turbos and some straighter running intake tubes, and have much more advantageous suspension arc and travel you gut that beast down to a bare shell and you send it to the guys at Huffaker Engineering who'll turn the front end into a tubular spaceframe with a fiberglass shell.
And, whether you jaded import diehards can accept it or not, Dillion, Howe, Port City, Lefthander, Perfection Fabrications, or any other builder of Late Model Stock Cars can do the same thing for the same money with the same quality of results. After all, Howe builds AGT and Trans-Am cars on the same chassis jig as their ASA chassis.
Forget everything the magazines have told you, you want to drop an engine lower in the chassis, get some room for bigger turbos and some straighter running intake tubes, and have much more advantageous suspension arc and travel you gut that beast down to a bare shell and you send it to the guys at Huffaker Engineering who'll turn the front end into a tubular spaceframe with a fiberglass shell.
And, whether you jaded import diehards can accept it or not, Dillion, Howe, Port City, Lefthander, Perfection Fabrications, or any other builder of Late Model Stock Cars can do the same thing for the same money with the same quality of results. After all, Howe builds AGT and Trans-Am cars on the same chassis jig as their ASA chassis.
1viadrft
05-13-2004, 10:51 AM
I'm not really into drifting anymore but would love to get back into it later on down the road with my Z or another with an MT. I basically 'grip' drive in and around the mountains late (really late) at night.... my compadres are into drifting but they have much lighter cars and have MT already.
I'd have to agree with Layla'sKeeper and keep the VG30DETT or VG30DE (BTW it's not VQ... that's a whole diff. engine series). It would be totally unlike anything else out there! I'd just have to put the car on a diet! But I would like to see Layla'sKeeper get those intake tubes any straighter!!! I'd pay you to see that!!! Have you ever seen a VG30 engine? LoL They are not fun to work on!
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/585000-585999/585097_4_full.jpg
And this is a NA engine.... :banghead:
I'd have to agree with Layla'sKeeper and keep the VG30DETT or VG30DE (BTW it's not VQ... that's a whole diff. engine series). It would be totally unlike anything else out there! I'd just have to put the car on a diet! But I would like to see Layla'sKeeper get those intake tubes any straighter!!! I'd pay you to see that!!! Have you ever seen a VG30 engine? LoL They are not fun to work on!
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/585000-585999/585097_4_full.jpg
And this is a NA engine.... :banghead:
Layla's Keeper
05-13-2004, 11:39 AM
My boss Matt has two sons. One is a DSM freak who buys junk Eclipses and Talons, fixes them, tunes them, and sells them at a premium. The other is 100% Z fan. He sold his N/A 2+2 that he fixed up to buy a two-seat turbo that's non-running. It's been in the shop at least six times in the past four months. I know my way around it by now.
and I've often said that the intake plenum and intake tubes for the Z32 were too restrictive. They pinch down at key points and are so pitted inside that extrude honing is a must just to make the part workable.
What's sad is that the engine itself is a potent little thing, just the packaging prevents serious modification. I'd want to run independent throttle bodies for each cylinder with individual intake trumpets, but as low as that hood is you'd need to do some radical scoop or something to clear it.
and I've often said that the intake plenum and intake tubes for the Z32 were too restrictive. They pinch down at key points and are so pitted inside that extrude honing is a must just to make the part workable.
What's sad is that the engine itself is a potent little thing, just the packaging prevents serious modification. I'd want to run independent throttle bodies for each cylinder with individual intake trumpets, but as low as that hood is you'd need to do some radical scoop or something to clear it.
drftk1d
05-13-2004, 11:55 AM
Were I a Z32 driver with aspirations and the budget to go Pro Drifting, I'd flat out stick with the VQ30DETT as my weapon. The big challenge with that engine is its packaging. Luckily I, unlike most import guys, have familiarity with clipping a chassis and completely revamping it with tube frame clips.
The reasons why i suggested the RB series turbo are because:
a) he has a NA z32. Now i'm not suggesting that all turbo engines are
better than NA ones, but why not replace an na with a lighter turbo engine with more power potential to move the heavy z car.
b) it's been done before and there's enough parts support (if you have the money)
But i never knew that a tube style front end would be advantageous in drifting.
The reasons why i suggested the RB series turbo are because:
a) he has a NA z32. Now i'm not suggesting that all turbo engines are
better than NA ones, but why not replace an na with a lighter turbo engine with more power potential to move the heavy z car.
b) it's been done before and there's enough parts support (if you have the money)
But i never knew that a tube style front end would be advantageous in drifting.
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