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Camper or Toe?


gonj182
04-28-2004, 05:05 PM
What's are the pros and cons of changing the camper or toe angles?
Also, when would you change the camper angle and when would you change the toe angle?

Auto_newb
04-28-2004, 09:53 PM
Dude, you mean CAMBER. Are you talking about toe-in or toe-out?

gonj182
04-29-2004, 11:54 AM
yea, camber and toe-in and toe-out.

spooleffect
04-29-2004, 03:05 PM
More negative camber will increase cornering grip and stability however you will have to deal with straight line braking and accelerating problems(less tire is on the ground whilst going straight) and possible tire wear problems. With toe-in you get better steering response but you loose a little cornering grip, toe-out does the opposite. Both toe-in and out increase rolling resistance and tire wear though.

GTR2b
04-30-2004, 01:44 AM
More negative camber will increase cornering grip and stability however you will have to deal with straight line braking and accelerating problems(less tire is on the ground whilst going straight) and possible tire wear problems. With toe-in you get better steering response but you loose a little cornering grip, toe-out does the opposite. Both toe-in and out increase rolling resistance and tire wear though.

Good Job with the answer on Camber! Most people mix it up with Caster or get it wrong entirely.

The only thing is that you got toe-in and toe-backwards. Toe-in will increase straight line stability (most cars have 1-2 degrees from the factory) and toe-out will increase steering response but will make the car tend to "wander" a bit at high speed. Like you said though, BOTH dramatically affect tire wear.

My question to the original poster is why are you asking about this? It would literally take pages to explain suspension geometry and theory with any kind of detail.

You didn't cut your springs did you?

BP2K2Max
04-30-2004, 11:47 AM
go to www.howstuffworks.com they have diagrams and all sorts of great shit. i'm sure there is a section on suspension.

spooleffect
04-30-2004, 03:39 PM
Good Job with the answer on Camber! Most people mix it up with Caster or get it wrong entirely.

The only thing is that you got toe-in and toe-backwards. Toe-in will increase straight line stability (most cars have 1-2 degrees from the factory) and toe-out will increase steering response but will make the car tend to "wander" a bit at high speed. Like you said though, BOTH dramatically affect tire wear.

My question to the original poster is why are you asking about this? It would literally take pages to explain suspension geometry and theory with any kind of detail.

You didn't cut your springs did you?

From what Ive read, toe-out lessens steering response because the outside tire is at an opposing angle to the corner your turning into. You lose steering response having to overcome that opposing angle. Yeah, there is now simple suspension answer.

GTR2b
05-01-2004, 08:16 AM
I used to do alignments for a living.

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