FASTEST CAR under 20k???

If you had only 20k to spend on a car including performance addition, which car would you pick. I myself would go with a 94 Mazda RX7.... muhahahaha. 15k for da car and 5k additions....!!!! Truly indeed one of the fastest car and comparable to da super cars.

Fastest car under 20K? Buy yourself a 2000 Camaro SS. It'll smoke that RX-7 any day of the week. ;)

where u gonna get a 2000 ss for under $20K? well the fastest NEW car for under $20k i nominate my impreza. anyone know one faster? note: by new i mean 2002+

fastest car for under 20k? you didn't say prettiest, so i'm gonna get ugly on ya.

go to the junkyard or old lady down the street, buy a chevette shell($500), weld in a rollcage, two seats placed where the rear seat once was, extend the steering, and brace it. buy a 70's 500ci Caddy V8($200), put 472(?) heads on it ($50) to bump the compression ratio to 13:1, and put in a ford 9in. posi. differential. new motor mounts to locate the engine 5" or so rearward, frame reinforcements. remove all excess weight(heater, inner door panels, headliner etc.... buy some Mickey Thompson slicks or drag radials, and you will have one of the lightest cars around putting out just over 500 HP. good for 9-10 sec 1/4 mile times while spending under 10k. wanna spend another 10k on beefing up the car, and engine and start running 8's? go right ahead. btw, you can do a nice multi color primer paint job on it to match with the $$ left over, maybe buy a parachute for the thing!!


if you want to actually look good for the ladies, i'd go with something else.....

........unless you like girls who dig primered, hacked up chevettes. LOL.

it dosen't matter if the camaro is an ss the rx-7 would still burn it. If anyone agrees with me post what u think

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I would have to agree that the RX-7 modded would beat the SS.
As for the fastest car under 20k we have a few options:

1. Buy a 90-94 miata (5K~8K) throw on a turbo kit (3K), then a TECII ECU (2.5K), full 3" turbo back pipes ($600) and you have yourself a sub 12 second car.

2. The RX7 deal eluded to above, although you have to be careful when getting a RX7 used, if it wasnt pampered its entire life it might crap out on you a few times.

3. Early 90s 300ZX Twin Turbo for 10K + 10k in mods

easy...id buy a early CRX...drop in the biggest engine possible...B18c5..B18c1...H22...SR20DET...whatever . drop in turbo... no less than about 15 psi when racing..but adjustable for the crusin...build up bottom end... work the suspension nicely...you got yourself a very fast car...now for the looks...throw on a kit...a very simple yet elegant kit...paint it black..or blue...or whatever the hell you want....(i would go with black, just my style)....and hold on tight....with the extra money, i would put in some pioneer speakers..thats all...just for the listening...

OK, let's not be ignorant. Stock vs. stock, a new Camaro SS is faster than a RX-7. SS's run low 13's, usually 13.2's off the showroom floor, and RX-7's run a BEST of a mid 13 stock...for the most part I see high 13 second quarter mile rips at the drag strip here.

Modded is a different story. You can still pump more power out of the SS's LS1 motor...not to say the RX-7 isn't a piece of work, it is.

im voting for a 1000 lb datsun with a blown 502.

Find the cheapest cheap LS1 ('98 and newer SS, Z28, or formula) and put a supercharger or the twin turbo in it (expensive, not really sure how much) and with whatever extra money you have upgrade any parts needing beefing up (drive train, tranny, and stuff like that to handle the power)...i dunno......

I have no idea what my friend did to it but he got an 85 rx-7 and ivested close to 10k and it cost him 2k and it runs mid 10's

Originally posted by -cy-
Find the cheapest cheap LS1 ('98 and newer SS, Z28, or formula) and put a supercharger or the twin turbo in it (expensive, not really sure how much) and with whatever extra money you have upgrade any parts needing beefing up (drive train, tranny, and stuff like that to handle the power)...i dunno......
who makes a twin turbo for a camaro? i swear i've never seen one. anyways a camaro z28 is the fastest stock car for under 20k but if you spent 20k modifying a civic you can make a car that'll destroy anything on the road


[Originally posted by DynoM@x
I have no idea what my friend did to it but he got an 85 rx-7 and ivested close to 10k and it cost him 2k and it runs mid 10's
he probably just put some sort of turbo and nos on it

between the SS and the Rex.......there close enough to get an edge on the other by slightly modding either one.......so it comes down to two issues:

1. Rotaries......what can ya do with em? do ya wanna deal with the problems of one?!

2. looks......which one do you see yourself in goin down the street

Hey, rotaries are great, my freind has a 2nd gen. Mazda RX 7. That thing is realy fast and good handling!!

Mazda for ever!!

a friend of mine races an RX-7 cometitively (G-Spot racing). while fast, the stock rotary motor has some big reliability issues, and because of the nature of a rotary config. and the way it's assembled, if you hurt the motor at all, you can pretty much say goodbye to it. i'd avoid it. the looks are second to none, though.

If you spent 20K on modding ANY car you'd destroy anything on the road...WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU BUY A POS CIVIC?!?!


And yeah, they do make twin turbo kits for the LS1's...a supercharger is more efficient, but it has been done.

LS1CamaroZ28: yer fergtting or never knew in the first place. that the rx7 is a turbo car. you can get a bone stock rx7 go pick yer new ride stop off at the first gas station and bring that puppy up another 50Hp before even getting home with it. not really best to do this with a rotery but still kinda possable. better if it was a supra TT.

with a camero yer breaking out the toolbox the wallet and gettin greesy before you see an extra 50HP.

Originally posted by LS1CamaroZ28
Fastest car under 20K? Buy yourself a 2000 Camaro SS. It'll smoke that RX-7 any day of the week. ;)

what are you smoking with the money you'll save you can buy a pair of turbos

yeah, a 94 rex is gonna cost a SIGNIFICANTLY less than a 2000 camaro ss........

i love rotaries, the whole idea seems superior, honestly i think that if the piston engine didnt have so much popularity before the rotary came along, itd be in a much wider variety of cars

I think the fastest new car, 2002+ would be dodges new neon SRT-4. 205 hp, calimed 0-60 in under 6 seconds.

Here is your sleeper chevette
http://w3.one.net/~watscarb/43v6vet1.jpg
http://w3.one.net/~watscarb/4-3LV-6vet.htm

Originally posted by NB8CT
I would have to agree that the RX-7 modded would beat the SS.
As for the fastest car under 20k we have a few options:

1. Buy a 90-94 miata (5K~8K) throw on a turbo kit (3K), then a TECII ECU (2.5K), full 3" turbo back pipes ($600) and you have yourself a sub 12 second car.


Make that a sub 12 second coffin.

ill have to find an srt4 neon and race it then. ive beaten 200hp modded neon before, so i guess we will see.

Originally posted by 328isRob


Make that a sub 12 second coffin.

I must agree. If i get a 12 second car i want it to at least have some kind of a wheelbase.

Jumping the boost is always an option. However, you can still get a 1996 SS Camaro for a lot cheaper than the 98+ (though the LS1 engine leaves more room for improvement)...still making 305 HP off the showroom floor, you have money to drop in for a nitrous set up or a supercharger. First though, it's exhaust mods, because that frees up a lot of power on domestics. ;)

An LT1 F-body in decent condition can be had for less than 10k, and the rest can be used to build the engine and whatever else. There is a single turbo kit availabe as well as many intercooled and non intercooled supercharger systems. As foor the twin turbo LS1 kit, it is made by Incon, the company that developed the TT system that Lingenfelter uses on vettes. There is also a single turbo kit for the LS1 f-bodies. The fastest of which I believe has run a 10.76 or 10.67( can't remember which) on a stock bottom end.

Originally posted by LS1CamaroZ28
If you spent 20K on modding ANY car you'd destroy anything on the road...WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU BUY A POS CIVIC?!?!

sorry i meant 20k total, if we each had $20k i guarantee i could produce a faster civic than whatever you spent your money on. anyways i'm so f'ing sick of this same muscle car vs compact car arguement...buy whatever the fuck you want (while you can: no more camaros or firebirds in 2 years :finger: )

btw how is a civic a POS? it gets better gas mileage, lasts longer and most people who aren't inbred think they look better

My take on civics is that they aren't worth putting tons of money into to make fast. They are economical cars that last, but they aren't cars made for speed. If you are dead set on import you could just buy a nice import that was made for speed. I don't particularly like civics b/c where i live there are a ton of civics and integras with crappy body kits, lots of stickers, and really bad sounding exhaust (coffee can exhaust). I don't have anything against good performing imports, but my experience is that most civics aren't fast.

Isn't there anything to be said for the raw power of domestics with big V8's? Is it not enough to have a GODLY sound, huge HP and torque, really good strait line, and now fairly good street handling?

well im not imbred, and i dont like the way civics look! So since i like domestic cars that means that im a country farmer that bangs my sister, if so, i guess that means that your an asian, who is 4 ft tall, and doesnt have half the stuff on your car that your stickers represent! And yes a camaro ss will beat a stock rx7 when your racing 1/4 of a mile, but i dont think that you can get a 2000 ss for under 20,000, i would just go out and get a 69 vette 454 for about 15000, put a blower on it for about 2k, and then smoke the rx7, and the ss.

alright, forget the inbred comment (and no i'm not japanese and there isn't one sticker on my car)...but seriously what 1/4mile time do you think that vette w/ a blower would get?

Fastest car for 20k. If you don't mind a little work. A older Vw bug with a 500 hp chevy with a 6 speed. Then you have money left for a leather interior.

UNDER 20,000 DOLLARS BEING THE KEY TERM. Do you want to go fst ina straight line or corner as well?
The best car for you would definitely have to be an 86 or 87 Buick Grand national or turbo-t. U can find one for about 7,000 and with an aditional 4,000 you can run elevens on a stock block and another4,000 u can pull .90 or better on the skid pad...with 5,000 left over to spend on an other 100 hosrepower or whatever you want....screw the import crap. This car can still have a full interior and airconditioning while being daily driven and still not have to worry about being another "mustang" or "camaro" guy. Oh, and it will stomp all over a supra after it is said and done....Fast With Class

annnnnnnnnnnnd it looks like ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p

nah, no offense to the GN owners, its a good car............but if people duck and cover on the sidewalk when you happen to be driving by with the window down.......dont mind them :D

a gn as a handling car???? :spit: i dont care what it runs on the skidpad theres no way in hell a heavy auto trans car is gonna catch my near-stock car on a road course, even with 1000hp! i have nothing against gns, as DRAG cars though, if one challenged me for better times at an autocross id prob laugh in his face.

yeah, that thing IS pretty heavy, and weight equals G's around the twisties, so it doesnt really matter how much traction it has, physics is gonna catch up with it eventually. Also, its a longer car, most jappers are so good in the twisties coz theyre short and compact

Originally posted by -cy-
My take on civics is that they aren't worth putting tons of money into to make fast. They are economical cars that last, but they aren't cars made for speed. If you are dead set on import you could just buy a nice import that was made for speed. I don't particularly like civics b/c where i live there are a ton of civics and integras with crappy body kits, lots of stickers, and really bad sounding exhaust (coffee can exhaust). I don't have anything against good performing imports, but my experience is that most civics aren't fast.

I wish people would stop saying that Civics suck, I really wish that Honda would bring the Civic Type R over here so that people could see why I say they don't suck.

People are gonna whine about civics..people whine about mustangs, these people are called "stupid" Really now, its the people who make civics rediculous, and do really tacky stuff to them that should be hated. Civics have a huge aftermarket, so that means more crap companies are gonna come out with more useless tacky stuff for them than any other car. People are gonna see these, and say "civics suck." These people dont know what theyre talking about. Ive seen quite a few nice civics, and some nasty rice too, so people, lets not bash somebodys car.............WHY CANT WE ALL JUST BE FRIENDS?!?!?!?

(oh and -cy-, no offense to ya for that post, coz you said pretty much everything i just did)

Originally posted by NismoDrifts
People are gonna whine about civics..people whine about mustangs, these people are called "stupid"

Hahahaha!!!:D

Originally posted by LS1CamaroZ28
Fastest car under 20K? Buy yourself a 2000 Camaro SS. It'll smoke that RX-7 any day of the week. ;)

i've seen an mr2 smoke a camaro on a rolling start (while the camaro was spraying)... just because the mr2 is so light and it had stock tires at the time so it couldn't grip very well... but still very impressive...

and yes, you have to be a real enthusiast and have the know-how to be able to own a rotary car. there's a lot of issues such as parts, heat problems and very few group of people who really know how to fix these cars.... which is the only thing keeping me away from really getting one.... i'll stick with civics. ha ha ha:D

I don't have civics, for the love of god a civic (without a ton of engine mods) is going to last longer than my car is. But what i DISLIKE is how people go overboard on them in looks, but not performance. If the owner is able to admit they are really building it for looks, i respect that, b/c its cool to have a nice looking car (my friends brother has a nice looking civic with a kit, lowered, new exhaust, and some smaller appearance stuff and he openly admits is car is a LOT more show than go, i respect that). I am just a muscle car guy, so i will never like civics more than a muscle car. But in now way do i hate civics, i respect them for what they are, but don't really like (in my opinion) what people try to make them...which is what they aren't.

hym? What do i think the vette will run in the 1/4, well my almost stock 74 vette runs a 13.5, and it has a 350. But a 454 with a blowere probably under 10's pretty easy. so whats your point.

i like your vette :D this is coming from a guy mainly into imports too!

im still voting for an old datsun with a blown 502! 1200lbs and 500+hp easily!

Originally posted by 328isRob


Make that a sub 12 second coffin.

Explain why so many people think that the Miata is any more unsafe than your average car??

yeah, i agree with you -cy-, i mean, that was just goin out to all the civic bashers in the audience tonight.......coz as sick as they are of seeing rice, im sick of hearing tons of people everyday saying civics suck.......

ladies and gentlemen......civics are the VICTIMS here!!! do you think they willingly accept tons of punishment and distasteful bodykits on their own?! no! its their stupid-ignorant-teenybopping-"i have TFATF on dvd"-owners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The enemy here is not the innocent economy car......the enemy here is rice ITSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<another anti-rice campaign speech brought to you by NISMODrifts>

Preach On Brotha!!!!:ylsuper

ok, so 3,500 pounds will catch up with a grand national eventually... But yuo can ALWAYS take an 89 to 92 plymouth/dodge colt or mitsu mirage GT (turbo 1.6 liter) drop a 4g63 turbo 2 liter from an eclipse. make well over 400 hrsepower with less than 2,300 pounds for well under 10,000 dollars. Then u can spend another 10,000 on anything else you want to. including an AWD system fron a GS-X eclipse. = 10.00 quarters(with traction) and an outright performer in the autocross circuit.

Originally posted by Crackerman
ok, so 3,500 pounds will catch up with a grand national eventually... But yuo can ALWAYS take an 89 to 92 plymouth/dodge colt or mitsu mirage GT (turbo 1.6 liter) drop a 4g63 turbo 2 liter from an eclipse. make well over 400 hrsepower with less than 2,300 pounds for well under 10,000 dollars. Then u can spend another 10,000 on anything else you want to. including an AWD system fron a GS-X eclipse. = 10.00 quarters(with traction) and an outright performer in the autocross circuit.
Check out www.4g61t.com if you don't believe me

Dude, that sounds just plain sick.........I WANNA TRY IT!!!!

anyway, thanks for the link, cool site, too bad the GT was limited production :(

yea, id get an 97 Eclipse GST for under 10,000, look at autotrader, then spend the rest on mods, but no nitrous, thats cheating...

Originally posted by chenZen
yea, id get an 97 Eclipse GST for under 10,000, look at autotrader, then spend the rest on mods, but no nitrous, thats cheating...

here we go again with nos is cheating :rolleyes: :silly2: ... that can be debated in another post

it doesnt matter what car you drive or how many mods you have, there will always be someone who can beat you. And im sure their are all kinds of cars that you can build for 20k. And nos isnt cheating its smart, racing is just like fighting their are no rules, use what you got to beat the other guy!

Why a 2g awd eclipse?
they weigh closer to 4,000 puonds. if you really wanna go fast with awd, import a japanese spec mirage cyborg. So you get right hand drive. who cares? its one of a kind in the states and u can do the 4g63 swap.

For a Drag Car: Find an old 1st Gen. Camaro ($1500)
Goto Katech and have them hand over a C5R Engine Block, goto Speed Inc. (down the street from me) and have them port a set of LS6 Heads, get a nice big split duration cam (228/232 .588/.588 114), Holley Aluminum LS6 Intake Manifold (ported), forged Ross pistons, H-Beam Rods, Forged 4030 Crank, TH400 Automatic Trans. with JW 10" 3800 stall converter, TNT Direct Port Nitrous System (spraying 300), BMR Trak Pak Drag Susp. on Weld Prostars with ET Drags/Skinnies.
All added up would be a $20,000 7 sec. drag car.

Mmmmmm.....

Road Race: Mazda Miata with an LS1. Heads/Cam, ATI Procharger.
Oh god. Imagine over 600rwhp in a MIATA!

oh god......i dont WANT to imagine a 600whp miata.........thats a car that id be scared in :D (im not saying its not safe or anything, but you have to respect my opinion here :))

the rx-7 would spank the camaro. :sleep:

thats a very tough question, if you're talking straight off the lot than prolly the RX-7, but if you're talking used i would say a 1968 Plymouth Roadrunner with a 426 which i have seen in the want ad for $13G...that will do wheelies...umm if u mean used but newer than i would say maybe a used vette ZR-1 (which is decent straigt off the lot, but theres still usually room for improvment on those) if it was my choice i would do a 1970 Pontiac GTo Judge 455 (not the 400) and i'd put some Mickey Thompson Sportster S/S tires on the back with maybe Hoosiers on the front, i'd run a nos fogger system on it, probably change the shifter out to a full hurst system, i'd probably run a ford 9" rear end (12 bolt of course) which given like 4 or 5 grand in addition to the $2g, i could make that happen if i got the car for aroun $5300. i currently have a 1991 Honda Civic (that one i am still working on cuz the bacon boyz hastle me when i take the camaro out) and i have a 1979 Chevy Camaro Z28 with the 350 LT-1, its got some Dunlop street tires on it, standard rally wheels, i put a hurst shifter in it (a shifter, not just the shift knob) and i run a demon carb on it cuz the Holley 4-banger double pumper crapped out on me...

Good luck at finding a GTO 455 Judge for under 15,000 even used. and no way in hell wuld a hemi car go for 13,000. a well used ZR-1 would cast at least 23,000(not wrecked) and if u could find a 12 bolt for 9-inch please post pictures....because i would really like to see it. and CivR. for the price.20,000 dollar limit. you could easily make the camaro out perform the Rx-7...any day of the week.
Blackbird, a C5-R block will cost about an 8,000 dollar premium and it would nearly be impossible to find a 1 gen camaro for 1,500. and the ls-1/6 parts might not even fit the C5-R 427(7.0) block nevermind not flow enough air( the Gen 3 series heads have enouh trouble flowing for 346 cubicinches at 6,500 rpm.

The heads would obviously be ported.
2.08/1.6 valves along with porting would allow plenty of air to pass thru.
Lingenfelters done it before.

Although in the new chevy high performance, he use the 6.0L gen 3 heads very well ported. they flow better than an ls-6 head on the 7.0 L c5-r block he used. not to mention the package is worth well over 900 hp thanks to 2 turbos. and awd. i was just stating that if u went for the ported ls-6 heads why not go and splurge for the set of c5-r heads while ur at it?