NOS in D1?

Just heard the Immaura was using NOS in his FD3S... thought you guys would like to know!

D1 people don't use 'NOS' newb...

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i don't even wanta get into this too late =(

I would have thought so too, buddy... but those are the rumors flying around my side of town! I'm just relaying the 411! I can't confirm this for you guys but from what I hear: the APEX'i FD3S was using NOS during D1
2-28-04... and apparently some other D1 competitors are also dabbling with NOS. What are the advantages for using NOS? Your guess is as good as mine... But I'm guessing it can be used to pick up enough speed before the corners?

LoL... you're an ass, JeFF4sALE! I know, I know! I hate the idea.... Maybe someone else has heard of this?

According to DIALD Magazine, Youichi Imamura's A'Pexi FD3S AX75F92 + NOS = 493hp.



So yes, Nitrous is used in D1... His car was the loudest there. It hurt your ears when it drove by when it wasn't pegged to the floor.

What magazine is that, Redneck? Where can I get it?

What magazine is that, Redneck? Where can I get it?


Well... at D1 there was a stack of about 10,000 DIALD magazines sitting in the middle of the car show... for free.

I picked mine up off the ground.

FREEBIE stack.... I missed that I guess. I just looked through the D1 program I bought and it also states "+NOS" on the APEX'i FD3S stats... that's an oddity! I never thought there would be NOS in D1! My friend was telling me that other drivers are also going to use NOS? I wonder how they use it......

...very carefully.

Quite possibly for stuff like spooling the turbo out of low speed sections, or even an extra kick of horsepower in high speed sweepers? I dunno. I fail to see the relevance of that mod, but I guarantee theres plenty we amateurs don't know...
Option once built a CA18 silvia with a supercharger, nos, and hydraulics ( maybe airbags, taxing my memory) which was purported to be a drift car...many many ways to skin that cat (ie drift setups) I would reckon.

Couldn't you use nitrous to break traction? I mean, you'll spin the tires in any gear depending on how big a shot you're using. So you could hit the nitrous right before the corner to initiate the drift. I'm not sure if that would actually work, but that's just what came to my mind when I thought of drifting and nitrous.

in drifting you want a SMOOOTH power band, you don't want spiking power in the middle of the drift which can cause unpredictability in the behaviour of the car. true that his car probably is EQUIPTED with NOS but i doubt if he even uses it. It might be just for promotional factors

And i doubt someone will be pushing the NOS button will drifting, countersteering, etc... etc...

sounds interesting. i just hope that no one starts using nitrous to imitate their favorite d1 superstar...

could be some pretty nasty accidents.

in drifting you want a SMOOOTH power band, you don't want spiking power in the middle of the drift which can cause unpredictability in the behaviour of the car. true that his car probably is EQUIPTED with NOS but i doubt if he even uses it. It might be just for promotional factors

I'm sure they use it... as stated: APEX'i + NOS= 493 HP... How is it used? We can only guess. Has anyone read the recent OPTION2 mag (in Japanese)? Supossedly there is a write-up about the D1 guys using NOS/No2... anyone out there read Japanese? I think I shall order my copy from PACIFIC-RIM...

the funny thing is that people still think that nitrous is used with a button only.
there are far more ways to engage it, mainly a WOT switch. so you don't need a button.

secondly, computer controlled systems can give you 75% of nitrous, at a throttle angle other than WOT and build to 100% of the nitrous shot at WOT.

if you're that good of a driver, it wouldn't be a difficult product to use on your car.

no different than dealing with a turbo with alot of lag, is it.

i was thinking about that flylwsi.... i guess as long as you can properlly control the amount of power you want then it shouldnt be any problem.

i dont see how you would need more than 400hp though, thats already a lot!

maybe they just have it on there because they got money from the company to put the product on, no clue, I don't see why he'd need it anyways though

they are just experimenting with it I bet... any good driver/racer experiments with different set-ups...

maybe to cool the FMIC?

there are no benefits at all to using it while drifting...as many have said, a spike in power upsets a drift rather then helping it, and drifting isn't about lap-times so it's not like they would need to go faster in between drifts...

i don't see any point to it at all...

and like i said, a turbo spools, or has late spool, so a "boost" in power can come from that as well...
so if you've got the nitrous, it's the same thing, not much different. at all...
and if you've got it set on a WOT switch, when you're flooring it in a corner, keeping the tires spinning, an extra 50hp would be nice.

side note, the kei office car had a zex kit in it, or at the very least, a bottle next to it in the pits...

its all in the tuning

the pic speaks for it's self... or does it? LoL

thanks for the pic, flylwsi... that is damning evidence!

I think they might be using it to initiate the drift. Kinda like using the e-brake except without the loss of speed. It might also be used to gain speed durring a time crunch.

there are no benefits at all to using it while drifting...as many have said, a spike in power upsets a drift rather then helping it, and drifting isn't about lap-times so it's not like they would need to go faster in between drifts...

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isnt that what the clucth kick is for?

isnt that what the clucth kick is for?

i doubt if any of the S13,S14,S15,FD,FC, etc... guys even use clutch kick anymore... the only person i would know of would be UEO and thats just because thats his driving style.

NOS is compleatly pointless unless drag racing, and even there it is used as a crutch to an inferrior car that can't prove itself with its own horsepower. Using it for drift is just absurd. Leave the NOS to the stupid FastAndTheFurious boy racers.

--Use your brain not your laughing gas--

NOS is compleatly pointless unless drag racing, and even there it is used as a crutch to an inferrior car that can't prove itself with its own horsepower. Using it for drift is just absurd. Leave the NOS to the stupid FastAndTheFurious boy racers.

--Use your brain not your laughing gas--

Tell that to the PROS that are using it...

1via, i totally agree.

there has to be a good reason they're using it.

end of story.

speed doesn't matter in drifting?
really?
the extra power of nitrous spinning your tires or helping you keep more speed is pointless, right?

boss, you're misinformed.

NOS armed... At WOT you hit the corner... tires spinning you go sideways with power you could not have ever imagined before....

NOS is an inexpensive (kinda) way to gain easy HP w/o breaking the bank! I have realized this now and I'm even going to get a NOS system in my car instead of opting for a VG30DETT in my Z car... Instead of paying a whopping $8,000 for everything including installation... a NOS system for my car will run under $2,000 and will get me power-even with a TT Z car!

These guys knew what they are doing when they installed NOS...

The pros use it because they get sponsored by the company that sells the nitrous to you which means more money for the pro.
If the driver can still control the car in the drift it dosen't matter how much horsepower he has. Whether it have 150hp or 400hp, with or without nitrous.
It all about control of the drift, not the power.

No... you are wrong! D1GP is not like the STREETS of Osaka or Okinawa! D1 is about style and CRAZY HP! The more stylish your car, the better it looks, the more insane HP you have while drifting is all taken into consideration! If you catch the eyes of the crowd and judges... that is what counts!

I doubt the pros just blindly install parts in their cars just because they are sponsered by those companies... you dont see Kenny Bernestein's Top-Fuel car guzzling BUDWEISER instead of fuel or Double Quarter Pounders replacing the wheels of the McDonalds sponsored NASCAR car. Do you? That would just be silly...

If the driver can still control the car in the drift it dosen't matter how much horsepower he has. Whether it have 150hp or 400hp, with or without nitrous.

it doesn't matter how much power he's got if he can control the car?

what?

you make little to no sense.

power is integral.
some guys can control a 200hp car, but not a 400hp car.

the amount of power does matter.

you need to crawl out from under your shell and realize that the kei office car isn't sponsored by zex, doesn't have the decal. meaning they paid for their own nitrous.

this isn't like nascar where you get free everything from a sponsor.

most d1 drivers/car owners pay for their own parts. very little "free" stuff going on here.

it doesn't matter how much power he's got if he can control the car?

what?

you make little to no sense.

power is integral.
some guys can control a 200hp car, but not a 400hp car.

the amount of power does matter.

you need to crawl out from under your shell and realize that the kei office car isn't sponsored by zex, doesn't have the decal. meaning they paid for their own nitrous.

this isn't like nascar where you get free everything from a sponsor.

most d1 drivers/car owners pay for their own parts. very little "free" stuff going on here.

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[QUOTE=1viadrft]No... you are wrong! D1GP is not like the STREETS of Osaka or Okinawa! D1 is about style and CRAZY HP! The more stylish your car, the better it looks, the more insane HP you have while drifting is all taken into consideration! If you catch the eyes of the crowd and judges... that is what counts!QUOTE]

ok then explain why Katsuhiro Ueo has an 85 Toyota Corrola Sprinter Trueno with 180hp and is one of the best, as in like the elite. he is amazing, he has 180hp, and you say you need crazy horsepower... you don't need crazy horsepower at all, you need just enough to keep your tires spinning... now with a huge car like a 300ZX, Supra, or Skyline you need crazy horsepower just because of the weight of the car... drifting has very little to do with horsepower

heres a little quote from super street, yea I know superstreet isn't an all knowing source, but I love what they said about Ueo's AE86 in this paragrauph:(this is talking about the D1 GP event in the US last year)

"In the final rounds it was almost comical to watch Ueo's cute little Corolla trail Nobuteru's evil 430hp S15 and Imamura's high-revving, flame-shooting FD. During both rounds, the Seven and the Silvia would rocket ahead in cacophony shredded rubber and excess boost pressure. On the fast sweepers at the start of the course, Ueo would fall behind. By the first hairpin where the big boosters of Nob and Imamura would slow to make the corner, Ueo's tricky Trueno would come right up (and sometimes even pass them!) with a smooth, flowing, perfect drift."

now give your car all the horsepower you want, smoke your tires around the corners all you want, burn rubber like crazy, his "cute little Corolla" will still tear you up... enough said :)

I'm not saying you need it... but it helps to catch the judges eyes! It's not just judged by performance but by style too...

as a secondary disclaimer, i also said you don't need it...

it's a car control thing, like it's been stated...
and his control came from a lower power rating, which allowed him more control of his uber light car...

it's all about the driver control...
if you can control a high powered car, go for it...

So we're all agreed then? Excellent.

Driver preference. He/she will drift in a car that they feel comfortable in. Insane hp or not.
Nitrous? I have given it some thought and have come to the conclusion that I dont like it. Ofcourse, your talking to someone who dosent like turbo too much.
If I were sponsored, id have it. Never would use it unless by the grace of the dorifto gods I found a good use for it in a drift.
Even then, due to the rev-limit cutter, I would be afraid to blow my $#!t up.:2cents:

well, if you've ever seen a hardcore drift, you'll know that the rev limiter is your friend, and you should visit it often...

so nitrous is something you wouldn't use... but apparently some people will...

you've got to remember that these cars in D1 are not the primary transportation for the drivers either, it's a drift only car.
like a race car, so why not put nitrous on it?

I'm not sure if this was mentioned... but the nitrous can be used to help turbo's spool better also...

it doesn't matter how much power he's got if he can control the car?

what?

you make little to no sense.

power is integral.
some guys can control a 200hp car, but not a 400hp car.

the amount of power does matter.

you need to crawl out from under your shell and realize that the kei office car isn't sponsored by zex, doesn't have the decal. meaning they paid for their own nitrous.

this isn't like nascar where you get free everything from a sponsor.

most d1 drivers/car owners pay for their own parts. very little "free" stuff going on here.


If the D1 drivers pay for all there own shit. Why would they put a nitrous system in there car that's going to prematurly detonate their engine.
The motors they use ain't cheap. The only logical reason why they're using it would be that it is provided by the sponsor. That way the driver dosen't have to worry about constantly having to pay out of his pocket to have new engines installed to keep compeating.

it doesn't matter how much power he's got if he can control the car?

what?

you make little to no sense.

power is integral.
some guys can control a 200hp car, but not a 400hp car.

the amount of power does matter.

you need to crawl out from under your shell and realize that the kei office car isn't sponsored by zex, doesn't have the decal. meaning they paid for their own nitrous.

this isn't like nascar where you get free everything from a sponsor.

most d1 drivers/car owners pay for their own parts. very little "free" stuff going on here.


If the D1 drivers pay for all there own shit. Why would they put a nitrous system in there car that's going to prematurly detonate their engine.
The motors they use ain't cheap. The only logical reason why they're using it would be that it is provided by the sponsor. That way the driver dosen't have to worry about constantly having to pay out of his pocket to have new engines installed to keep compeating.
Why would you have an enormous ZEX sticker across your hood? Just for the way the colours compliment your paint scheme, I don't think so.

can you prove that the nitrous is going to blow the motor?

and you talked about how nitrous has to do with the f&f crowd, but you're running around telling me that nitrous will blow my motor?

why don't you go talk to the Kei Office driver that freaking WON the d1gp in the US, and ask him what HE uses it for.
it's there for a reason.

so he uses it on his car.

and YOU sure as hell don't know what for, so you can't sit here and tell me, or anyone else, that they just have it as a sponsorship.

you don't know much about D1, do you?

most of these guys own their own cars, or own their own companies and build their own cars.
there are few companies like HKS, that build cars for drivers.
the rest are owned, and paid for, very much so, by the drivers.

you should really do your homework before you stick your foot in your mouth.
but apparently you like the taste of your shoes, b/c you haven't pulled them out yet.

Nitrous is not some combustible gas that is tempermental and will blow your car up... that is a big misconception by people that know nothing about how a motor runs on nitrous or how a motor works in general... these sysems are not just thrown together with tape and glue while the mechanic hopes, "gee, I hope the motor doesn't blow..." :disappoin

you know not of what you speak, boss san... please be quiet!