D1GP in the rain?

Well, it's raining cats and dogs over here in So.Cal. They say it's gonna last up until next week! D1 is this Saturday! I just got my tickets in the mail. The event will go on rain or shine!!!
I have seen a few races and drifting in the rain on video and it's bad-ass!!! I'm hoping it RAINS DURING D1!!! I wonder how well (or bad) it will go? What do you guys think? What do you think about rain/drifting? HYDROPLANING GALORE! See ya there! :naughty:

Agh! I'm excited! :iceslolan

they do it in japan, rain or shine or snow!...

It's gonna be bad-ass! I bet Rhys Millen wipes-out in the rain and bashes up his GTO! Then all these GTO lovers in here will have to wipe their eyes!

I'm so stoked! With this rain there are gonna be many varibles! It's gonna be about who can control there car completely! POWER may not be the best thing here! It will be a disadvantage! I wonder how the other American drivers will do... they probably never DRIFTED in the rain, huh? Rhys probably has experience in different weather conditions though... him being a rally-racer and all!

Actually many drifters practice on wet tracks. Remember that drift competition in Car and Driver? I hope somebody eventually enters a lotus elise...


Hydroplaning only happens when water piles up (puddles). I doubt there will be any hydroplaning on the track.

Yeah... but the track is a 'NASCAR' spec track, right? Which means its sloped! Don't you think the water will run down to the center of the track? They drift right smack-dab in the middle of the track too... I wonder if they use RAIN/WET tires in D1 drift???

Most D1 teams use ADVAN Neova AD-06's or Bridgestone Potenza RE-01's, so they're ok in the rain.

I want a lotus elise... 1900lbs stock, strip it and getbetween 1700-1750 maybe? rebuild the engine and turbo it, exhaust, headers, intake... put it at around 220 horses maybe? yum :) me likes!

I have a feeling that if it rains, the cars with heavy rear ends will do a bit worse, although these guys are pros so it may not really matter, but I'm giving it to an S13 driver if its raining... just a quick thought

It's called a "banked" track, 1viadrft. :rolleyes:

Your ignorance is quite astounding when you get right down to it. First and foremost, think about Rhys Millen's competition background. He's a veteran of rallying and hillclimb. In fact, off the top of my head, I believe he's won the Sno-drift Rally on the SCCA Pro Rally circuit several times over.

And, in case you haven't noticed, that's where the bulk of American drift enthusiasts on the pro level have come from; rally and club racing.

The Americans won't have any more problems than the Japanese drivers were. Jeez, next thing you'll say is that it's harder to drive a 180hp Toyota in the rain on a country road than it is to drive a 700hp Trans-Am car in the rain at Portland.

It's nice that the U.S. version of the elise can be had with the AC and a few other things removed to save weight/power/price (Evo's have this option too).

I've actually had the pleasure of watching one go through its paces on the racetrack from behind. In action, they look like a creature that has evolved to drive fast. They really have a animated quality. I want one sooooooooooo bad. I also saw a 340R there.



PS: Actually Soyo, cars with heavy rear ends do awesome in the wet. Porsche 911's kick M3 ass in GT3 when it's raining.

It's called a "banked" track, 1viadrft. :rolleyes:

Your ignorance is quite astounding when you get right down to it. First and foremost, think about Rhys Millen's competition background. He's a veteran of rallying and hillclimb. In fact, off the top of my head, I believe he's won the Sno-drift Rally on the SCCA Pro Rally circuit several times over.

And, in case you haven't noticed, that's where the bulk of American drift enthusiasts on the pro level have come from; rally and club racing.

The Americans won't have any more problems than the Japanese drivers were. Jeez, next thing you'll say is that it's harder to drive a 180hp Toyota in the rain on a country road than it is to drive a 700hp Trans-Am car in the rain at Portland.

ME? Ignorant? LoL

Really now? I think I mentioned that RHYS MILLEN was a PRO! For a Mod... you seem a lil' ignorant! Don't let your badge give you a
big-head! :nono: And I said, "I wonder how the other American-Drivers will do?"... and not all of them are RALLY pros, mind-you. And DRIFTING is a lil' different than conventional racing, no? I think I seen a few American driven cars wipe out (along with ONE Japanese driven S15)... I was track-side you know? SOoOoOooo, I'm wondering how (STILL) the American drivers will do... since most have not DRIFTED in wet surfaces... and since they are not as good at drifting as the JAPANESE. Did I clarify this? Let me know... ok?

Sorry for my ignorance, however, about the whole technical term of 'banked' track... you're really smart! :eek: I'm sorry that I'm not all hill-billy NASCAR freak track-guy! And once again: I NEVER CLAIMED I KNEW EVERYTHING! FAR FROM IT! Can I attend the school you went to, please? Kids these days... I bet I can outdrive more than half of you with all your technical terms and thousands of dollars of racing education, ha! LoL.... I'm a regular Fujiwara Takumi!!! LoL

Anyhow.... the rain is suppossed to return tomorrow and last up until this weekend! Looks like we get a wet D1GP... kinda like your bed, huh Layla'sKeeper? I can hardly wait!!! Any of you going? Or am I the only lucky one?

And Layla... don't try to offend me if you cannot take me offending you, ok? No hard feelings on my behalf! :grinno:

oy vey...

get over it 1via!

and yes, rain or shine. i went to Club4AG's Drift Day 13 last saturday (couldn't stay for D1 though :banghead: ) and it was raining, but the festivities kept on going and it was still alot of fun.

btw...i'll post pics of DD13 later.

now that I think about it, I guess you could be right bunta, I was thinking that since it was loosing traction, it would be more weight slidding and harder to control, but the light cars will slide easier... shrug, who knows

Yes, 1via, you are incredibly ignorant, highly xenophobic, and immature to a degree that's nigh offensive in of itself.

You fail to realize one very important fact about any skilled driver's knowledge; a car reacts the same.

Sounds pretty ridiculous to you, doesn't it?

But, here's the breakdown; whether doing oval track, rally, or road racing, you learn very basic principles of adhesion and how to interpret the movements of the chassis. This how drivers develop technique and become able to correct poor chassis dynamics with different steering, throttle, and braking tactics. By developing techniques and the ability to read a chassis, one can apply them to any form of motorsport.

This is how Tony Stewart, who began racing in dirt sprint cars, was able to come so close to winning the Daytona 24hours this year in the rain until the suspension broke. This is how Jeff Gordon and Jimmy Johnson were able to win the Race of Champions rally tournament for the U.S in Spain. And this is how Jeff Gordon (again, a sprint car graduate) was able to adapt so easily to the Williams-BMW F1 car during a test at Indianapolis and posted times that would have put him mid-pack at the previous year's F1 grid.

This is also how Boris Said was able to win several ASA late model events driving for Ken Schrader, and how the CART drivers Adrian Fernandez, Michel Jourdain Jr. and Patrick Carpentier will be able to do well in USAC Midgets at Irwindale this March. The rules of physics, adhesion, and chassis dynamics do not change because of the discipline of motorsport you happen to be competing in. You're simply asked to take the input you receive from the car and use it in a different way.

In the case of drifting, you're simply approaching the corner in an oversteer/loose condition and then holding an increased slip angle as you travel through the corner. Any halfway decent road or oval racer knows how to hold a slip angle, it's just that those disciplines require that the slip angle be contained instead of exaggerated. If you'd watched NASCAR at Infineon/Sears Point last year and seen Robby Gordon take the checkers, you would have seen him on his victory lap taking the corners sideways in celebration.

It's not difficult and it's certainly not a Japanese-only skill. It's a skill any fair driver picks up. The ability to read a car, determine it's characteristics, and then respond to the requirements of the racing discipline of choice is BASIC.

Now, go ahead and explain to me the failure in my logic. I'm curious.

Immature? LoL... you have no idea!

No-no... you are right. Pat yourself on the back... good job, sport!!!! DOES TALKING LIKE A BIG BOY TURN YOU ON? If you want an explanation about your logic... just read my last post. I thought I explained it clearly. I never tried discrediting you... I only pointed out that you are mildly RETARDED and should completely read what I had posted before you type. That's all! YES... what you say is very logical and very SMARTY pants... but what does this have to do with what I said? are you trying to show-off? You lil' devil!

I'm sure your 'knowledge' about racing surpasses mine... but hey! Put your money where your mouth is... bring your MG and come show me who is boss? I bet I whoop you silly! Then what will all that knowledge be worth? When I was in the Marines Corps I knew a guy who knew every trick in book on killing a man... but you know what? He couldn't kill anyone cus he was conscienous objector... your knowledge does not prove shit, kid!

Anyhow.... YES, I know D1 will go on rain or shine!!! I'm just a little overly excited and wanted to know if anyone else was... that's all! Geez... you guys are too uptight!!!

You know 1via? I'm starting to hate it when you say things.

LoL! Why... am I that bad? I'm fine until someone comes along and tries to be all BILLY BADASS... but we are way off topic here. No?

You are a nuisance. And, for the record, eloquent speech is not one of my turn-ons. Naive large breasted blondes, on the other hand.... :boink:

My track credentials speak for themselves; 1994 quarter midget track record holder at Killidare Speedway. 1999- test driver for Gary Griffs' 305 Sprint (dirt). 2001- test driver for Duffy Smith's 410 Sprint (dirt), test driver for Jeff Gibson's 305 Sprint (asphalt), test driver for Dion Parrish's supermodified (asphalt).

As for my knowledge, most of it comes straight off the track, and my father and I were both columnists for RPM Racing News out of Latrobe, Pennsylvania. So obviously I've been doing something right.

If you'd like to cruise your NA 300ZX out here to Nelson's Ledges or Mid-Ohio, I'll gladly race you. Or, if you'd like, let's strap you into a sprint or a supermod and see what happens. Somehow I don't think you really have the ability to deal with 800+ bhp, 1000+ lb ft of torque, and direct drive.

You throw around import rodder conventional thinking as if it's gospel. You preach about how bad domestic cars and American drivers are. You offer no sound proof to back up your claims and have even admitted there is no technical basis to your statements.

You say you were merely excited about the D1, well we all are. It's a great event and I'm hoping the best man and machine wins; whichever that might be. You, on the other hand, took it as a chance to bash both the Pontiac factory effort and its fans. Once more, proving your inability to think beyond conventions and general xenophobia about drifting. You're just as bad as the people who say "I'm getting out because it's getting too mainstream."

Mainstream means dollars. Pontiac means dollars. Dollars means higher payouts, which leads to higher car counts, which leads to higher attendance numbers, which leads to television coverage, which leads to more dollars....

When something goes mainstream, that means it's a success. If NASCAR never went mainstream, they'd still be a bunch of ol' Southern boys running around bullrings in North Carolina. If Indy had never gone mainstream, it'd just be a glorified sprint race. If F1 had never gone mainstream, Ferrari would be just another Italian car no one could pronounce, afford, or maintain.

And, by the way. You're four years older than me. Somehow I don't think you're exactly in the boat to call me "kid".

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I'll be at the D1GP this coming weekend, rain or shine with my stepdad.

Hopefully it'll be a good turn out.


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Soyo, please don't post 600 'blahs'. That's spamming. And it's not tolerated.

1ViaDrft, I've noticed you have a tendancy to bring threads off topic. That's not really a problem in general, but with you it turns into some sort of shouting match. Your attitude needs to improve if you wish to remain here.

Yes... I am warning you. Please keep the threads as close to topic as possible, If you've got beef with somebody. Whether it's a member of moderator. Take it to PM's.