question about the 1278 hp Diablo twin turbo

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hello guys,

Im sure many have seen the 1278hp twin turbo lamborghini diablo from japan, and here are the pics for those who haven't. Anyhow, i got in contact with the company and they confirmed that the twin turbo diablo pumps out 1278hp and 923.3lbs of torque @1.2 bar of boost!!! :eek2: The car has stock gears, and no internal modification done to the engine !!! :headshake You would need to floor it in forth to avoid wheel spin !!! and it tops out 355 km/h due to it running out of gears and revs........... Also, they said this grey twin turbo was the only diablo they ever produced and it has been running fine without any problems ever since it was ready one year and 6 months ago...... They even suggested me to fly out to japan to check it out.

Now the question gotta be is how on earth is the engine handling that kind of power and how come nothing has happened to it yet? And are they crazy to suggest to me to go for everything stock with this converstion ?

Mind you they offer a sequential gearbox, do engine converstions, parts enforcement, body modifications, engine preparation for race or street use but didnt on the twin turbo diablo.

Here comes the twist, they said that the engine was on the brink of limitations and that it would need internal modification if more than 1300hp was required !! Do they really know that its on the limit ? ie the TT diablo @1278 :dunno:

P.S. i know some people thinks its 1178hp but in their email to me they said 1278 hp

hey SE30,

how are you doing man? Well your inquiry is interesting, but I recently thought of an easy way to make the diablo tougher and able to hold more on such a power. First, why not swap its 5-gears gearbox with the murcielago's 6-gears ? it will fit in easily. This will help reach top speed of 400+km/h, and never run out of REVs. Second, giving in big air filters, and exhaust system will help the engine to breath in better, especially if you put the diablo GT's front bumper, you see how big the opening is? that is to let the car breathe the most air it can take on its way. Third, as I said before, think of the displacement, add more to the engine and its ready! What else does the car need, racing fuel, and slicks. What makes me sure that the diablo will be able to handle the 1.2 bars, is that I have seen a mitsubishi evolution tuned by Noris Design, it had 715 bhp from its 4 cylinder 2.2 litre @ 2.1 bars!!!! now thats crazy! So 1.2 bars will not be a problem for such a powerful engine like the diablo's. Well thats what I think of right now, but whenever I get new news I will send them to you.

See you around. :biggrin:

Hi there Diablo SE30, great first post. Welcome to AF :smile:

A few observations, statements, and questions:

-Great looking (and I'm sure great performing) car.

-If the car is running at its limits on the stock engine parts, then this should be upgraded to aftermarket, strong, parts for added durability. It would also eliminate the weak links, which have been identified in terms of their limits (has been said that this car is running close to its limits).

-Amazing to get such power at such low bar boost with no engine modifications (for internals).

-The stock engine can handle that power due to the amount of air it can flow, and the strength of the parts, as well as the CR of the pistons.

-It was nice to see that the company offered you to check it out.

-Nothing has happened to the car because of competent driving and maintenance.

-You listed what the company who made this car does. They should integrate all of those services, which haven't already been offered in this Diablo, into the car so that it can harness the power and put it down to the ground a bit better.

Lambo Maniac:

-Can the Murcielago transmission cope with the power? Is it rated to the power displayed with this car? I'd have thought that a more powerful transmission that was 'purpose built' by a specialist manufacturer who builds gearboxes that can take loads of power would have been used.

-You mentioned the Norris Designs Evo 7. I'm from the UK, as is that car. I've seen it run and usually gets the job done (gets good numbers). It's also a highly regarded car, and there is still a little more potential left in order to get more power from the engine and make the car faster (weight reduction, etc).

-Will we see Murcielagos or Gallardos tuned like this car?

-http://www.kappa119.com/%7Eyanachan/wangan.htm - there are similar Diablos, or even same ones (at least in exterior and engine bay looks). I always wondered what the Diablos in those pics have put out, and suspected big figures as I had heard about other big power Diablos with a similar power output and same setup - twin turbos (and twin superchargers). Now I know what these cars, when tuned, are capable of [destroying].

-Your signature is going to invoke a lot of competition one day. :smokin: :icon16: :iceslolan

Those pics are nice. Good info, but I still find it amazing that the Diablo engine can handle that much power. Was under the impression that the Lambo V12 was not that stout.

Hey LSR,

well I am not sure 100% that the murci's gearbox will bear that force, but i assume its better than a 5-gear. Well DIABLO SE30 says that the 5-gear can hold that power by changing the ratios, sacrificing a bit from the acceleration. And there are Twin turbo packages now for te murci, hennessey has one producing 800 HP for $75,000. Too much for 800 HP murci. Anyway, as for my signature, I am proud to raise the challenge, against the majestical kind of all supercars, Lamborghini.

Hey LSR,

well I am not sure 100% that the murci's gearbox will bear that force, but i assume its better than a 5-gear. Well DIABLO SE30 says that the 5-gear can hold that power by changing the ratios, sacrificing a bit from the acceleration. And there are Twin turbo packages now for te murci, hennessey has one producing 800 HP for $75,000. Too much for 800 HP murci. Anyway, as for my signature, I am proud to raise the challenge, against the majestical kind of all supercars, Lamborghini.

Out of interest, Lambo Maniac, do you own a Lambo of any sort (I know you'd like to own in the future seeing your name, and post characteristics - posting here in a favourable way towards Lambos)?

Also, I'm aware of the Hennessey kit for the Murcielago, but I'd be cautious of sending my car to him. It's a bit suspicious that he was a crook (who is now correcting on his mistakes, paying back the customers who he ripped of, and doing 1000TT conversions, his most expensive product and he has to keep the car, for customers - I've only seen this done for customers in Tx, the same state as him, and he never ripped anyone in Tx off.) But then there is also a kit by Koenig. Who has made this Diablo TT kit? I tried the names of companies (apart from Blitz as I already know of their operations), without getting a website of this TT kit maker. I bet this company is making some serious stuff for the new Lambos :smokin: :grinno:

Hennessy's specialties have always been Chrysler products, namely big cube engine displacement. Only in the last couple of months has he expanded to Lambo, Audi, Mercedes, etc. I would be hesitant to send by car to any company that had too many "specialites". It is not like sending your Benz to Brabus or your Audi to Abt. Not to mention his "better business" practices.

I just do not understand modifying a Lambo. Give me one reason why you would not be happy with a stock car with perhaps and exhaust or minor bolt ons. I mean, damn it is not an Integra.

I can only imagine the responses I will get to that comment.

Hennessy's specialties have always been Chrysler products, namely big cube engine displacement. Only in the last couple of months has he expanded to Lambo, Audi, Mercedes, etc. I would be hesitant to send by car to any company that had too many "specialites". It is not like sending your Benz to Brabus or your Audi to Abt. Not to mention his "better business" practices.

I just do not understand modifying a Lambo. Give me one reason why you would not be happy with a stock car with perhaps and exhaust or minor bolt ons. I mean, damn it is not an Integra.

I can only imagine the responses I will get to that comment.
I agree. Hennessey is a worthless business man. Always making promises and never delivering them. Just look at the BBB, he's had tons of law suits. And somewhere in AF is a post of a legitimate story of his poor business practices.

I never understood modding a Lambo past exhaust and headers. There's no need for it. And this Diablo is probably less of a Lambo now. B/c there are no stock pieces to handle that power, and most everything is probably custom made.

I agree. Hennessey is a worthless business man. Always making promises and never delivering them. Just look at the BBB, he's had tons of law suits. And somewhere in AF is a post of a legitimate story of his poor business practices.

I never understood modding a Lambo past exhaust and headers. There's no need for it. And this Diablo is probably less of a Lambo now. B/c there are no stock pieces to handle that power, and most everything is probably custom made.


Once again Texas and I are on the same page.

Texas I agree with everything you said down to the letter.

Who has made this Diablo TT kit?

Sorry guys its me Diablo SE30. I forgot my password and requested but got the password of my old name instead!!!

To answer your question, the name of the company that makes the TT kit diablo is pmengine divison and service & technology. Their website is www.pmengine.com

And as you would see from their website, they do tons of stuff for lamborghinis. The TT kit even comes with a digital speedo! Please look at the pics of the diablo Jota.

Getting that kind of power isnt a problem but what suprizes me how the engine is handling it. And yes as you mentioned, strengthing internal parts is the way to go.

Lambo Maniac,
Norris Designs Evo 7 might be pumping 2.1 bar but at least the evo comes with low compression pistons stock. The diablo doesn't !

As for going for the murci's gerabox, well i dont think that is a good idea as i have just checked its gear ratios on supercars.net and got to know that they are lower than that of my SE30. The Diablo TT has a major problem with traction (spins its wheels @200 km/h!!!) and the only way to solve it is going for higher gear ratios or slicks.

I just do not understand modifying a Lambo. Give me one reason why you would not be happy with a stock car with perhaps and exhaust or minor bolt ons.

My car has ansa exhuast and the cats have been removed but i want to take the car to the next level. Its a personal dream that is going to be transfered into reality. Plus, lamborghinis has always been in a league by their self. Not these days with 800~1000hp supras and other jap cars around. They need to stay in the back view mirrorwhere they always have been !!!

Besides that, its always wow when you first get into a fast car but that slowly goes away the more you get into or drive it.

And i agree with you about hennessey. I heard about the story of the owner of the 1000 TT viper. Hennessey is a highway crock and no one should go close to him or his company.

I respect that raging bull (SE30). I have always wanted a nice car to modify to my like. I just can't bring myself to doing it with a Lambo.

I will say I have always wanted a 7.0MTI ZO6 though, maybe even plumbed with NO2???

Once again Texas and I are on the same page.

Texas I agree with everything you said down to the letter.
Thanks man. I think the problem is that this forum is slowly being taken over by kids. :uhoh:

I think the problem is that this forum is slowly being taken over by kids. :uhoh:

Who are you exactly reffering to ?

raven1822,

I respect your opnion but all i can say is that everyone's different and their needs and wants depends on what they like. All this wildness was inspired back in the 80's by Koenig. I couldnt get over that wide body 1000hp competition Ferrari Testarossa, and that has only made me determined to own a wild piece of art and the power and performance to back its looks. Something similar to Mr. Willy Koenig's philosophy ;)

http://www.koenig-specials.com/bilder/bilder600px/600px/03-comprotfr.jpg http://www.koenig-specials.com/bilder/bilder600px/600px/04-testapl.jpg

KOENIG twin-turbo EVOLUTION up to 735KW / 1000 PS /940 NM
high-end version of the normal twin-turbo with a complete new motronic, new turbo chargers, bigger coolers and many more modifications. Reinforced gear wheels, clutch shaft, all gear shafts, modified oil-pump, bigger oil cooler


Performance:
0-100 km/h 3,4 sec.
0-200 km/h 9,8 sec.
standing 1/4 mile 10 sec.
top speed 370 km/h
driving performance depends on gear ratio

:grinno:
http://www.fast-autos.net/ferrari/testarossa15.jpg

Who are you exactly reffering to ?
No one in particular. And I was half kidding. I've just noticed that the discussions that take place tend to be less involved and more kiddy like thank I care for. No big deal. Just discussions are not as good as they use to be.

Oh i see. Thanks for clearing that up...

Raging Bull,

Koenig did make some really wild and crazy creations. All of which I excellent. I love the 512 creation probably the most. I just could not get myself to modify an exotic car to that extent. To me it would be no do different than taking a 1963 split window Corvette and modifying it. Just could not do it.

I do know what Texas is talking about when referring to the current state of this forum. There was one point when we had two comfirmed Murcielago owners that posted pics and Lambo "quizzes and trivia" at least once a week. Two very down to earth guys at that. It just seems that those times have come and gone.

raven1822,

Your taste might be different but i would pull the trigger on that body kit and engine converstion any day of the week! It shows alot of individuality and creativity and the best part is that it looks WOW :iceslolan

For the Diablo TT, the company is coming back to me with a proposal to upgrade some engine, gearbox, and differential parts. Anything in particular i should ask for ? We have already discussed low compression pistons, changing the connecting rods, and gaskets along with gearbox and diff shafts. Is there anything else i missed ?

P.S. the guy was kind enough to call me to ask how hard i drive to try and figure out what exactly needs to be changed. But it was nice of him to say that he was worried about me and highly recommended a roll cage ! :thumbsup:

Oh and i almost forgot, they are going to send me a video tape of the Diablo TT. I told them we cant play NTSC tapes over here so they decided to send me a video player along with it :22yikes:

i still dont think you can turbo em. seriously i dont know how they do it?????

Would anyone pull the trigger for this kit ?

The company has come back to me and said that they can add low compression pistons and anything the customer wants. I thought that low compressions was a must plus, a heavy duty gasket, engine pins, oil cooler, a bigger radiator, transmission oil cooler, diff oil cooler, a heavy duty clutch.

All that for $105,000 and the diablo would be pumping 1278 bhp and 923 lbs of torque.

They think a roll cage is important along with 390mm all around brakes.

Is it too risky to go for this kit although low compression pistons have been added ?

Thanks guys

If all other components are upgraded, you should be fine. Besides, you wnt be running around at full boost all the time. You will end up having the worlds sickest Diablo though. You should join www.lamborghini-talk.com . Alot more owners there.

Raging Bull,that would be a wild ride.I think with the other mods you have mentioned,all will be fine.I for 1 would love to see it!!As Allan said,come visit us at www.lambo-talk.com

Many owners and info there.

hmmm...

SE30, after i thought about this issue here, I think that there is 1 problem left..does pmengine provide you with an aero kit? you need a superb downforce, I am sure you know what I mean. And maybe Koenig can help you out with that. Or look for custom made bodyparts, allanlambo, you have addresses for companies providing custom bodyparts form diablos? a huge rear wing, a front and rear bumper, side skirts, well I have found a place here where they made custom bodyparts for the murcielago, I just cant believe it! If anyone needs pics I can send them. They add fenders and wings and bumpers like crazy, you draw it and they design and fit it. They also apply special paints, and fit great rims to the car. Even the interior, damn they made it carbon fiber, and colored it like the car's exterior. Maybe they would do the same for the diablo.

Awesome car, does the company fabricate custom parts?

Dream car for me. :icon16:

i still dont think you can turbo em...

Why not?

^are they normally aspirated?

^are they normally aspirated?
you mean naturally aspirated?

I am the proud owner of vt roadster 99, but i want to know whether i would be able to import my diablo to Canada, Ontario from United Arab Emirates, Dubai since i have recently moved here. i wanted to know whther ne body has done this before and what r the differences between the US Spec so i could have it modified to be imported. some one plz help me with the info as i love my car and really want to bring it to Canada.

Bullshit! :bs:

No one who "claims" to own a 99 roadster uses shortened words suchs as "ne" "r" and worse of all "plz".
You are a 13 year old punk from America, get over yourself!

I dont think i asked for any criticism or your judgements upon what I really have or not. If you think by having a pic of Carlton Draught makes you older than a 13 years old punk from America then you really are an immature aussie and that is what they are known for.

Now regarding the roadster i was asking these question as i have asked transport Canada and the RIV office but nobody gives me a straight reply, so then I tried Unlimited Motors which is Lamborghini Toronto to see if they have any information but in vain. Therefore i needed to know whether there is somebody that has imported a vehicle of this sort and how did they get by it. Oh and by the way I am 25 years of age and Davo if ur jealous that i have a Diablo at this age so be it, i am young and i will live it up, while u sit there and sip ur beers playing with ur diecast models since u dont have ne thing better than a nova on ur driveway.

hi


we had this post some time ago

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=81253&highlight=tri+turbo#top



at this time when i posted it i was wrong and said it's a tri turbo....
but the old link does not work any more.