can a probe gt perform?

Ive been researching cars lately because i will be buying one in a few months. i have a few in mind. most of the cars i want all are costly for maintenence, so don't tell me the mechanical problems because i know. What i want to know is what type of performance does a probe gt has. what year is the best? is it fast. is it sporty. currently ive been looking at second gen rx7's, 944's, probe gt's, supra's, and mr2's. What do you think. ive been to many forums and everyone says their car has a 10/10 performance, but that has to be a load of crap unless it's a ferrari or something. anyways, does the probe gt handle well? what are the year to year differences. can it set you back in your seat? What makes the probe worth buying?

The Probe GT (PGT) is more of a handling car than a drag race type car. It has about 135-140 whp (wheel horsepower) stock and with all normally aspirated bolt-ons you can get it up to about 160 whp. A J-spec engine (KLZE) is available from the Japanese market Mazda MX6 which is a direct drop in and is rated (in Japan) at 197 hp. On average it will get 165-170 whp without bolt-ons and about 185-195 whp with bolt-ons. The power gains with bolt-ons are kind of disappointing.

Typical stock 1/4 mi times will get you between 15.5-16.0s. With all N/A bolt-ons you are looking at low 14's with a good driver. N2O or Turbo will get you into the 13's with traction being the greatest limitation given it's FWD setup. A few have gotten their 2nd gen PGT into the 12's, but that is with slicks and some power adder (S/C, Turbo, N2O). The best N/A 1/4 mile time for an MX6 (same engine/chassis but different shell) would be 13.59@100 mph

On the track, a PGT drives very well (with some handling mods-struts/springs/rear antisway bar) and holds off seemingly more superior cars. In stock trim, the car has your typical stock understeer found on all cars designed for the street but still handles quite well.

The best year to get would be a '95 PGT since it is still OBD-I (simple emissions and sensor package), redesigned tail and interior, addition of the passenger side airbag, and the a lot of the bugs have been ironed out (siezing rear calipers, failing distributors, less rattles). '96-'97's are great too, but you just have to get around the extra sensors and mod some of the bolt ons that are available in order to make them fit properly or accomodate the additional sensors (like O2 sensors).

If you are looking for pure power for the 1/4 mile, I'd look towards some light RWD car with a stock turbocharger since you can usually get a lot more bang for your buck with any mods that you add on.

I'd also suggest a '93-'97 Mazda MX6 LS since it's the same car with a different body, but it looks like you are going for cars with flip up lights.

One major reason to buy a PGT, is the surprisingly huge following it still has on the internet ( www.probetalk.com ). Also, there have been some recent renewal in its aftermarket parts.

u forgot about the 1st gens, the 1st gens are more of a racer, they are quick in a straight line, but stock arent the best handlers. but they alot easier to get into the 12's then the 2nd gens.

u forgot about the 1st gens, the 1st gens are more of a racer, they are quick in a straight line, but stock arent the best handlers. but they alot easier to get into the 12's then the 2nd gens.

Oops, yeah I forgot, I'm 2nd gen biased. 1st gens are faster when fully modded than 2nd gens. There is one 1st gen running 11's on Probetalk and another running mid 12's.

dont worry, im 1st gen biased, cept ive been thinking baout a 2nd gen just cause they handle so much nicer.
and theres alot more then just one 1st gen running 12's, my 88 mx6 high 12 easily, and my quickest on slicks was 12.52. even though both my probes are only in the 14's

my 1st gen is in the 13's :eek2: :biggrin:

yea i have a 90 PGT and i raced my friend in his 94 PGT on back roads and i out accelerated and out handled him quite nicely so if your looking for a GT get a 90 it was the best first gen. model

yea i have a 90 PGT and i raced my friend in his 94 PGT on back roads and i out accelerated and out handled him quite nicely so if your looking for a GT get a 90 it was the best first gen. model

I have GOT to beg to differ, out handle??? NO NO NO
Out Accelorate?? Again, negative, close, but negative, I wore old probes out. Every aspect of the game man. The only time I got completely wasted was when some Dude in this probe has some turbo work done and some suspention mods, and he lost me around every turn and straight. But besides that keep dreaming. :screwy:

i havea 91pgt and its qucik i beat neumorour civics and accords and celica.. itsa qucik car and takes well to mods..
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I have GOT to beg to differ, out handle??? NO NO NO
Out Accelorate?? Again, negative, close, but negative, I wore old probes out. Every aspect of the game man. The only time I got completely wasted was when some Dude in this probe has some turbo work done and some suspention mods, and he lost me around every turn and straight. But besides that keep dreaming. :screwy:



No dude im sorry but we raced again 40 mph side by side start and there was no contest he got a little jump on my but as soon as i spooled up i was about 2 car lengths ahead of him. handling...figured that one out too i didnt realize it untill we sat the cars next to each other and we realized that the previous owner of my 90 did a lowering kit on it plus i did some research and found out i have a wider tire than stock on my car so yea some minor descrepancys in my post but still MY 90 is better than a 94

No dude im sorry but we raced again 40 mph side by side start and there was no contest he got a little jump on my but as soon as i spooled up i was about 2 car lengths ahead of him. handling...figured that one out too i didnt realize it untill we sat the cars next to each other and we realized that the previous owner of my 90 did a lowering kit on it plus i did some research and found out i have a wider tire than stock on my car so yea some minor descrepancys in my post but still MY 90 is better than a 94

You were going 40 and your turbo wasn't even spooled up?? Hmmmm... And again your wrong man...something has GOT to be wrong with that guys car and/or driving. They don't improve cars and make them slower. But to be totally biased...raced plenty of them only lost to one....turth...do what you want with it...

My 93 PGT is very quick, 2 days ago i whooped a camaro ss off the line, and top end, he was shocked, i thought it was funny, because i thought he was going to beat me, but i smoked him, i always whoop up on those ricers, ha ha, i smoked a mustang gt the other day too. it was a 2004

Ok, Im a girl, and from a girls perspective, I would much rather perfer riding in a 2nd Gen Probe over a 1st Gen any day of the week. Just think, on the 2nd gen Probes you could put twin turbos on it, instead of the stock 1st gen 4cyl turbo. The old school probes are outdated, the 2nd gen probe still looks better than most cars today. I have a 97 GTS, Ive already beat 1st gen probe GTs with my stock probe. But I still love all probes, just 2nd gens are way better.

well having owned a 96 2.5V6 for the past 2 and a half years i can safely say of all those cars you mentioned, the probe is the slowest and the second best on fuel econamy (after the mr2), proberly one of the more reliable though, mines only had new front tyres, new boot strutts, and new headlight and inside boot bulbs in the time i have had it!
craig

a stock GT Probe 5spd can fun 15s at the track, mine isnt stock. Ive beat a 3000 GT with Turbo, 1st Gen Probes, Honda Civics with they're "B16"s and "H22"s, but not only do I race, I go to car shows too. I only race someone so they'll shut up about they're slow ass cars. I love my Probe, I baby it all the time, its the best car Ive ever had, and one of the fastest where I live.

I am getting a first gen probe,the one im am getting runs stock14.8. how is that slower then a 2nd gen, stock second gens i thought ran mid to high 15s, and yes, i have the time slips to prove the time on my probe
~mike

stock 1st gen probe gt runs 15.8 sorrie to say buddie.. i have a 1st gen probe gt my car is pretty qucik im pretty sure im in hi 14's low 15's easily and thats only on 8psi when i up it to 15pss i know ill be doing hi 13's my pgt is fast i beat alot of cars and i did hang with a turbo240sx with a to4b turbo and all supporting mods the first gen turbo takes well to mods and have a srong block and pistons and you have to love that 7.8:1 comp for turbo and all the forged parts stock!
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ok,we have the same car, i have/getting a 90 Probe GT Turbo 5spd, my bad, i should have mad that clearer
~mike

To Me a 93 probe is a very good choice but dont go stock if you have the money get rid of the stock muffler because in my opinion they look like shit go with a huge exhaust tip in my case 4.5" and it adds the apperance of the vehicle. For more hp put a ricer exhaust for 20 to 30 more and add a bigger air intake so the 2.5 on a gt can breath. I have raced a few cars and have yet to be beaten. the list includes an eagle talon, civics, cavaliers, cutlasses and much more.
93 are 2nd gen and still have styling that many cars still reproduce today.
Handling is if you want to feel the road you want a probe. it allows you better turns around corners also that it has stiffer shocks and struts so dont worry about a little bump in your ride at 60 because you wont feel them at 80 or higher.
If your looking beyound ride and also for acoustics, pgt has some of the best. premiums stereos come with and inboard eq and a very powerful factory amp. so powerful that i use it to run two 12 inch 750 watt subs and the curve of the rear and the glass sends all of the sound forward for and easy 120 to 130 dB of sound.

for the 93- no factory gov. or rev limiter and an auto will feel full gas and wont change untill 6500 to 7000 rpms for more get up and go

oh god will yall stop saying "the ford probe is not a drag car" No god damn V6 and down is a drag car. a Prelude is not a drag car. Anything Fwd is not a drag car. And probe gt's are freakin fast in a str8 line. And there the cheapest Integra eating cars you can get. You cant compare a GT with a supra or a Rx7, there not in the same league/class. If you want something cheap thats quick and alot of fun but not reliable get the Gt. best bang for the buck. Rx7s are reliable if you know how to handle a rotary. Supra Eh the old ones just suck ass. THere heavy, there slow, and the engine here in the states just sucks ass. Go with the Probe or Rx7. You cant afford the maintence on a 944. And finding info on one locally is gonna be a bitch and replacing parts is also.

I got a great runnning 93 pgt mtx with 125k on it for only $1550.00 that left me with plenty of cash to play with. (o2 sensors, and muffler needed fixin and thats it) anyhow, you can't come close to getting any of the other cars for anywhere close to that price. plus I think the pgt looks better than any of the others, just get a manual, autos suck

thank you zanark i was just about to pipe in and say that. You are comparing a probe to a 944, supra, and rx7.....COMPLETELY different leagues...those other 3 would just eat a probe...it also depends what your looking for in a car....performance and power, handling, fuel economy, cheap.....if you want the best i would go with the supra....you can add soooo much power to them (the newer ones) and pound the piss out of them. the rx7 has great power too becuz of the rotary but can be a bitch to work on....and i dont know much as far as power and performance of the 944...but its porshce so im assuming its decent. what makes probes worth buying (if there is any) is that they are american (cheaper parts), more fuel efficient (i think), sporty enough, decent handling for a fwd car. and will you people quit bitching about 1st gen and 2nd gen probes....this kid (assuming) wants to know which car to buy between the 4...not which generation of probe is better. and whoever was talking about beating the camaro ss and the stang gt.....obvisously those drivers did not know how to drive their cars...or they got beat cuz they were sitting at the starting point still burning out.

My friends both have probe gt and one has a GT Turbo and the one with the no turbo says it would be a close race if they were to go head to head.

i hear your looking for a GT? i got one for sale if your interested

email me or post something

Atps10786@comcast.net

I don't think he's gonna be posting anytime soon.
this thread was started almost a year ago.

some noob revived it

alright, thanks

why'd they revive it?

it was just a noob not following the rules.
threads that have been unactive for a month should be considered dead. but most noobs don't bother to read the AF rules.

What about the 1st gen probe lx 3.0 v6 i think a properly modded one could out run a 2nd gen anyday of the week

my 1g pgt turbo takes worked 2nd gen no problems, both 4 and 6, i even took out a turbo 4 cyld 2nd gen, my probe dose about a 14.7 1/4 mile, i never been to the tack so its not offical but i bet alot of 14'sec cars and i can hang with quick cars, my boy has a 13 sec 240sx and i only lose to him by 1 1/2 cars to 70 we are dead even, buth then agian im running more boost then he is, but a 1g pgt turbo is by far on of the quickest kinds of probe in a straight line and takes well to mods..
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why put all this money into a car that has no resale, or that is a common car, sec gens have mazda parts,so=ricer.

i have only invested $800 into my car, i got the car for free, so in total it cost me $800 to get the car where it is 2day, i dont think thats much of an investment, where else are you gona get a 14 sec car for $800? and it gave me service for almost a yr. now
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Looks and Handling, but for the HP you find a crap load of stuff at www.probeaddiction.com that can give you alot.

I have had a 95 PGT ATX, 93 PGT ATX, 93 PGT MTX, 93 Probe base MTX, 92 PGL ATX, 92 PLX MTX, and currently an 89 PGT MTX. I had over $500 (not much by any means) invested in my 93 PGT MTX, and ran a best of 15.5 in the 1/4. My 89 has about $50 invested in mods and consistantly runs mid 14's all day long. There is no comparision between the probe and the other cars mentioned. Currently, as far as I know, the three fastest probes in the known world (this does not include MX-6's) are Fallguy (Matt Faul, Fargo ND 11.25 90 PGT MTX FE3 2.0 Jspec turboed), Mattmaus (Matt Maus, Wisconsin 11.47 94 PGT KL-DE 2.5 Turboed) and Probethis (Eric Schaffer, Fargo ND, 12.02 FE2T 2.2 US spec). All have well over $5000 invested in the cars and have done the work themselves, so that lets you know how fast a probe can go and how much it costs to get it there. If you were to have the work performed for you, look at costs well over $10000.

Have a good friend that has a 95 probe and is putting down 462 HP to the wheels.....so all u probe critics can eat that!!!! any car can be great if u got the money!!!!