How to overcome understeer in an FWD
ColeIketani
12-18-2003, 11:02 PM
Any ideas?
As of now I've been swinging the back of the car around, but there must be a better way...
As of now I've been swinging the back of the car around, but there must be a better way...
SchuberT
12-18-2003, 11:06 PM
besides hand/e-brake, i know of none....
integra818
12-18-2003, 11:08 PM
Thicker rear anti-roll bar, smaller front anti-roll bar. Increase tire presure in the back, and last but not least...drive better. That's all the advice I can give. :)
Racingwannabe
12-18-2003, 11:20 PM
Well there is a driving technique called left foot braking. I think the idea is that you are turning, ok and now u have feet on both the brake and accelerator, so when you understeer you can press the brake a little and then start accelerating again. I dont remember how it goes but its something like that.
jdmkenji
12-18-2003, 11:23 PM
ways to create oversteer:
1. put shitty tires in the back of your car
2. weight loss in the rear of the car
3. put grippier tires in the front
4. put thick sway bars in the rear
if all else fails, spray water on your rear tires!
there you go...
1. put shitty tires in the back of your car
2. weight loss in the rear of the car
3. put grippier tires in the front
4. put thick sway bars in the rear
if all else fails, spray water on your rear tires!
there you go...
ColeIketani
12-18-2003, 11:24 PM
thanks, ya I know about left foot braking and it works, but course I'm going to need more practice
2strokebloke
12-18-2003, 11:41 PM
Lift off of the gas, and you get a very shallow oversteer on most FF cars. If you have a stiff anti-roll bar on the rear, you can get more oversteer than you want (I can honestly say that I've gotten nastier oversteer out of my '82 Tercel then I've ever had to deal with in any of my rear engined cars!)
I also detailed an interesting techinique for using understeer to create oversteer in the thread in this forum about "snow drifting" but it's a pretty tricky technique to use on a dry surface.
I also detailed an interesting techinique for using understeer to create oversteer in the thread in this forum about "snow drifting" but it's a pretty tricky technique to use on a dry surface.
Layla's Keeper
12-19-2003, 12:04 AM
Also, try dialing a few degrees of toe-in into your rear suspension. It's a trick ACR Neon drivers use to great degree and really helps free up an FF chassis. Also, if you can, zero out any rear camber you might have.
After that, it's just like the others have said; left-foot braking, stiff rear sway bar, and a few more pounds of pressure in the rear tires.
A friend and I did this list of setup stuff to a Geo Storm with great success. Really helped in autocross.
After that, it's just like the others have said; left-foot braking, stiff rear sway bar, and a few more pounds of pressure in the rear tires.
A friend and I did this list of setup stuff to a Geo Storm with great success. Really helped in autocross.
ColeIketani
12-19-2003, 12:10 AM
thanks for help guys, any other ideas?
integra818
12-19-2003, 08:51 PM
For now, increase the rear tire pressure and see where you're at.
2of9
12-20-2003, 10:00 PM
snow is your friend...hahhahheheh :cwm27:
BullShifter
12-24-2003, 01:16 AM
All types of drifting tips - http://www.driftsession.com/drift_techniques/heeltoeshifting.htm
Learn suspension in & out so you can get the proper set-up --- get a book called How to Make Your Car Handle
Go to a closed course & practice - dont forget a shit load of tires.
Learn suspension in & out so you can get the proper set-up --- get a book called How to Make Your Car Handle
Go to a closed course & practice - dont forget a shit load of tires.
2strokebloke
12-24-2003, 01:54 PM
Actually, with FWD you'll find your tires wear very little at all (a bonus over FR) because you're not spinning them to break traction. However, if you do it alot, they'll wear irregularly.
$ilverbullet
12-25-2003, 06:03 PM
pssst wanna know a little secret?
make ur rear suspension stiffer than your front and your car WILL oversteer. But becareful, you wont handle as well as having stiffer front.
make ur rear suspension stiffer than your front and your car WILL oversteer. But becareful, you wont handle as well as having stiffer front.
raysoh8
12-26-2003, 12:31 AM
lets see..
less toe in at the rear
softer springs at the front, stiffer at the rear
less toe in at the rear
softer springs at the front, stiffer at the rear
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