Pic of my car
jdmkenji
12-07-2003, 01:17 AM
SchuberT
12-07-2003, 02:01 AM
which one is it? the one in the front or the one by the gate in the back?
LOL jk, looks awesome... i'd take it
LOL jk, looks awesome... i'd take it
RACER D12
12-07-2003, 08:19 AM
Wow your car is hot! Im looking at a AE86 for sale right now. I really want it even tho its beat up. How do you like yours? And what have you done with your engine?
jdmkenji
12-07-2003, 12:13 PM
Thanks,
just look at the car when i originally got it about 6 months ago:
http://mightywingman.co-jp.us/gallery/ken/1.jpg
i havent done anything to the engine except for a filter intake. The car *86* doesnt need a lot of engine modification to get it running good, get it sideways and to have fun with it. Just all suspension and looks.
it's a very fun car to drive, but dont expect to beat civics on the streets... lol... maybe in solo II you get a chance!
just look at the car when i originally got it about 6 months ago:
http://mightywingman.co-jp.us/gallery/ken/1.jpg
i havent done anything to the engine except for a filter intake. The car *86* doesnt need a lot of engine modification to get it running good, get it sideways and to have fun with it. Just all suspension and looks.
it's a very fun car to drive, but dont expect to beat civics on the streets... lol... maybe in solo II you get a chance!
Drifter S*E*
12-07-2003, 12:26 PM
Nice car, I'll buy it from you what ever price you set, or i'll njust steal it from you, where do you live....just playing
Suislide
12-07-2003, 08:36 PM
HELLA nice...but it's just SCREAMING for Kouki Trueno bumpers... :icon16:
a 20V would be nice too...
looks good so far, Kenj. good on ya.
a 20V would be nice too...
looks good so far, Kenj. good on ya.
david1486
12-27-2003, 11:39 PM
its not a trueno tho. its american. putting trueno bumpers is incorrect.
jdmkenji
12-27-2003, 11:55 PM
its not a trueno tho. its american. putting trueno bumpers is incorrect.
sorry, but that comment is so stupid. it's a japanese car! hahahah it's an AE86, it doesnt matter what bumpers you slap on there.
sorry, but that comment is so stupid. it's a japanese car! hahahah it's an AE86, it doesnt matter what bumpers you slap on there.
david1486
12-28-2003, 10:42 AM
yes it does. the japanese versions are different. american ae86 is not levin/trueno
-The Stig-
12-28-2003, 12:22 PM
yes it does. the japanese versions are different. american ae86 is not levin/trueno
Silvias aren't American... but I don't see you jumping down the 240sx guys throats who do the conversions.
Sheesh... Lay off.
Silvias aren't American... but I don't see you jumping down the 240sx guys throats who do the conversions.
Sheesh... Lay off.
Suislide
12-29-2003, 02:57 AM
yes it does. the japanese versions are different. american ae86 is not levin/trueno
holy anal, batman!
just because it didn't come with it in america, means we can't do it?
their bumpers are a helluvalot nicer looking then ours, so why shouldn't i be alllowed to put the bumper on if i like it?
it's his fucking car dude, don't tell him what to or not to do to it.
so what DO you consider to be right?
by my observations, you would consider Silvia front ends wrong, SR20 swaps wrong, any other kind of engine swaps wrong unless it was already available in north america...
what else? :rolleyes:
yeesh...
holy anal, batman!
just because it didn't come with it in america, means we can't do it?
their bumpers are a helluvalot nicer looking then ours, so why shouldn't i be alllowed to put the bumper on if i like it?
it's his fucking car dude, don't tell him what to or not to do to it.
so what DO you consider to be right?
by my observations, you would consider Silvia front ends wrong, SR20 swaps wrong, any other kind of engine swaps wrong unless it was already available in north america...
what else? :rolleyes:
yeesh...
Dorikin
12-29-2003, 04:16 PM
It doesnt matter what you do, as long as you dont front like your car actually IS a Trueno/Levin(your car can never be one unless its straight from Japan-there are structural/chassis differences related to RHD that make them different enough to give them a different VIN chassis code)
jdmkenji
12-29-2003, 05:05 PM
i don't care. i love the car... this topic is very trivial to me.... like i say... its a damn corolla!
hahaha
hahaha
Dorikin
12-29-2003, 06:40 PM
i don't care. i love the car... this topic is very trivial to me.... like i say... its a damn corolla!
hahaha
Exactly, its a 17 year old car only a few people care about :) :)
hahaha
Exactly, its a 17 year old car only a few people care about :) :)
jdmkenji
12-29-2003, 06:49 PM
19 year old! hehehehe
MKIISupra
01-02-2004, 09:33 AM
Yeah 20Vs are nice, but expensive. I would suggest just getting some pistons and cams, or an overbore kit. You can get all this stuff under www.todaracing.com, then just click on the link that says 4AGE, 3SG, adn 7MGE and look at the parts. I asked toda and with just their parts on a 20V N/A you can make 240 HP, then you could get a motec computer and ignition and some stuff liek ITBs and you could probably with all the mods pull 260HP N/A, I would suggest staying N/A. But WOW thats a real nice car, IM me my screen name is IATEPCT. I have an 85 Celica Supra, the big brother to the Corolla GTS or trueno which ever. But mines all beat up. I can show ya pics if you guys IM me. Thanks!
MKIISupra
01-02-2004, 09:44 AM
OK after i posted i read the whole thread, Dorkin really you should lay off. What are you driving? an FF ricer that any underpowered FR could kick its ass? Well first off, the AE86 FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD! uses one of the best motors ever made. It uses THE 4AGE. The 4AGE was revolutionary with DOHC and 4 valves per cylinder, it also had VVT on the later ones maby the first too? But yeah the only set back to it is that it is Iron block, so are all of the 20Vs :mad: . But it is still an amazing engine. Also the AE86 was the top of the line car for Toyota then. Yes I know there was the Supra like mine, but it only makes 161HP and it is only 2 valves per cylinder. The AE86 was fast and still is, the only thing it needs is skill which you dont have Dork, niether do I but im going to try and get it. The only set backs the AE86 was that it had an iron block and that it didnt have 4 wheel indapendant suspension which is bad i may add, but it is a tiny car in the 80s you would be supprised some cars still dont have them today. So just shut up and dont make fun of his car or anyone else. By that is a real real nice AE86.
Dorikin
01-02-2004, 01:00 PM
OK after i posted i read the whole thread, Dorkin really you should lay off. .
You sir are fucking retarded. How should I lay off? Ever heard of a joke? Maybe if you were actually cool and werent trying to be such a hotshot, and had a sense of humor like jdmkenji does, you would know I was making a dig at people like you who get so uptight when they think people are dissing the hachi roku. Go watch some Intial D episodes. By the way my friend owns three, count em, three AE86s. Ive worked on all of them, even done some emergency repairs in between rounds at a Drift Day on the damn thing, so go shove a fat JDM dildo knob up your ass.
What are you driving? an FF ricer that any underpowered FR could kick its ass?
What am I driving? I am driving the BMW 530i. Its not a Toyota, and it wasnt in Initial D, so you wont like it, but its world renowned for being the second best sedan(1st is the M5).
the AE86 FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD! uses one of the best motors ever made. It uses THE 4AGE. The 4AGE was revolutionary with DOHC and 4 valves per cylinder, it also had VVT on the later ones maby the first too? But yeah the only set back to it is that it is Iron block, so are all of the 20Vs :mad: . But it is still an amazing engine
Ok dude, the 4AG is great, but its not god. The SR20 is a better motor, the 13B is a better motor, and hell, even the B16 is as good as the 4AG. Every hachi owner the world over with a 4AG will tell you this. The car is slow. I know someone with a 4AGZE, and he says its slow. You know that DOHC and 4 valves per cylinder have been around since the 1960s, on the KPGC10 Skyline, and Z432R Nissan Fairlady, which were equipped with the S20 engine.
The Iron block is fine, it doesnt give it a huge weight distribution, and it makes the block stronger. The only people I see bitching about Iron blocks are the Honda ricers in their claim that the B16 will own anything. Next your gonna tell me the 4AGE r00lz cuz it gets 100hp/l
Also the AE86 was the top of the line car for Toyota then. Yes I know there was the Supra like mine, but it only makes 161HP and it is only 2 valves per cylinder. The AE86 was fast and still is, the only thing it needs is skill which you dont have Dork, niether do I but im going to try and get it.
AE86 was top of the line? Ya right, and Im Jesus H.Christ. Ever heard of the Cressida or the Land Cruiser? The Marketing department would have a fit if an economy car(thats what it was marketed as here) was a flagship.
Just because a car has 4 valves per cylinder DOHC doesnt mean its the flagship. The Supra had waaaay more luxo features, was pimper, more expensive etc. So was the Cressida.
The AE86 is only the flag ship because you suck Takumis dildo shift knob. Oh, the Supra ONLY makes 161hp?? Well, the AE86 made a whopping 128hp.
The AE86 is fast sure, on the curves. But you can measure its 0-60 times in minutes. On a hill, that car is a disaster. I hate to break the news to you, but despite that its peppy and feels fast, it aint. Even a 20V, unless its been re-built with all aftermarket parts, will be handed its ass by some 240, or FC or whatnot.
A few exceptions to this rule: The 100,000 Levin built by Video Option, the 3 rotor hachi, and Taka&Motos cars. Taka&Motos are set up for drift and Solo2 though.
You dont have skill either. Pot, Kettle, Black. And with an attitude like this, you'll never get it.
The only set backs the AE86 was that it had an iron block and that it didnt have 4 wheel indapendant suspension which is bad i may add, but it is a tiny car in the 80s you would be supprised some cars still dont have them today. So just shut up and dont make fun of his car or anyone else. By that is a real real nice AE86
The only setbacks the AE86 has, aside from what you mentioned are the following.
1) Idiot newbie wannabe Initial D followers give the car a bad name, and suck the dicks of cool, knowledgable owners, thereby doing a dis-service to the whole community.
2) Theyre old, often rusty and in bad shape. Your restoration costs will often excede the car costs.
3) Everyone asking "do you drift, can you do the ditch technique" etc.
4) Theyre slow. That, coupled with the fact that your beloved 4AGs, often have a shitload of miles on them, makes them desperately need a re-build.
5) Parts are expensive and hard to comeby
So, YOU just shuttup and stop being a fag. I made a joke, which he got, and took well. You, in your rush of fanboy-dom decided to be a retard and ruin it.
Cliffnotes: Moron flips a shit at my joke with Kenji
You sir are fucking retarded. How should I lay off? Ever heard of a joke? Maybe if you were actually cool and werent trying to be such a hotshot, and had a sense of humor like jdmkenji does, you would know I was making a dig at people like you who get so uptight when they think people are dissing the hachi roku. Go watch some Intial D episodes. By the way my friend owns three, count em, three AE86s. Ive worked on all of them, even done some emergency repairs in between rounds at a Drift Day on the damn thing, so go shove a fat JDM dildo knob up your ass.
What are you driving? an FF ricer that any underpowered FR could kick its ass?
What am I driving? I am driving the BMW 530i. Its not a Toyota, and it wasnt in Initial D, so you wont like it, but its world renowned for being the second best sedan(1st is the M5).
the AE86 FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD! uses one of the best motors ever made. It uses THE 4AGE. The 4AGE was revolutionary with DOHC and 4 valves per cylinder, it also had VVT on the later ones maby the first too? But yeah the only set back to it is that it is Iron block, so are all of the 20Vs :mad: . But it is still an amazing engine
Ok dude, the 4AG is great, but its not god. The SR20 is a better motor, the 13B is a better motor, and hell, even the B16 is as good as the 4AG. Every hachi owner the world over with a 4AG will tell you this. The car is slow. I know someone with a 4AGZE, and he says its slow. You know that DOHC and 4 valves per cylinder have been around since the 1960s, on the KPGC10 Skyline, and Z432R Nissan Fairlady, which were equipped with the S20 engine.
The Iron block is fine, it doesnt give it a huge weight distribution, and it makes the block stronger. The only people I see bitching about Iron blocks are the Honda ricers in their claim that the B16 will own anything. Next your gonna tell me the 4AGE r00lz cuz it gets 100hp/l
Also the AE86 was the top of the line car for Toyota then. Yes I know there was the Supra like mine, but it only makes 161HP and it is only 2 valves per cylinder. The AE86 was fast and still is, the only thing it needs is skill which you dont have Dork, niether do I but im going to try and get it.
AE86 was top of the line? Ya right, and Im Jesus H.Christ. Ever heard of the Cressida or the Land Cruiser? The Marketing department would have a fit if an economy car(thats what it was marketed as here) was a flagship.
Just because a car has 4 valves per cylinder DOHC doesnt mean its the flagship. The Supra had waaaay more luxo features, was pimper, more expensive etc. So was the Cressida.
The AE86 is only the flag ship because you suck Takumis dildo shift knob. Oh, the Supra ONLY makes 161hp?? Well, the AE86 made a whopping 128hp.
The AE86 is fast sure, on the curves. But you can measure its 0-60 times in minutes. On a hill, that car is a disaster. I hate to break the news to you, but despite that its peppy and feels fast, it aint. Even a 20V, unless its been re-built with all aftermarket parts, will be handed its ass by some 240, or FC or whatnot.
A few exceptions to this rule: The 100,000 Levin built by Video Option, the 3 rotor hachi, and Taka&Motos cars. Taka&Motos are set up for drift and Solo2 though.
You dont have skill either. Pot, Kettle, Black. And with an attitude like this, you'll never get it.
The only set backs the AE86 was that it had an iron block and that it didnt have 4 wheel indapendant suspension which is bad i may add, but it is a tiny car in the 80s you would be supprised some cars still dont have them today. So just shut up and dont make fun of his car or anyone else. By that is a real real nice AE86
The only setbacks the AE86 has, aside from what you mentioned are the following.
1) Idiot newbie wannabe Initial D followers give the car a bad name, and suck the dicks of cool, knowledgable owners, thereby doing a dis-service to the whole community.
2) Theyre old, often rusty and in bad shape. Your restoration costs will often excede the car costs.
3) Everyone asking "do you drift, can you do the ditch technique" etc.
4) Theyre slow. That, coupled with the fact that your beloved 4AGs, often have a shitload of miles on them, makes them desperately need a re-build.
5) Parts are expensive and hard to comeby
So, YOU just shuttup and stop being a fag. I made a joke, which he got, and took well. You, in your rush of fanboy-dom decided to be a retard and ruin it.
Cliffnotes: Moron flips a shit at my joke with Kenji
MKIISupra
01-02-2004, 02:32 PM
HA HA, Sorry if it was just a joke? But um at first it looks like not even he took it as one. Now to talk buisness. I never said that it is the flagship I said that it was the leader in technology. And by the way I own a 1985 Toyota Celica Supra with a 5MGE engine which the Cressida ueses also. And If i were you I would not try and tell me about it. Now my first point. The whole point of a AE86 is not having execive power. With an underpowered car, you may go through the turn full throttle. Do you not understand why Ueo can take poeple on the inside and have a higher exit speed. Do you understand why Takumi can take outside and cross his apponents line to the inside. That is the point of N/A underpower. With a high exit speed you can go just almost as fast as a much faster car. Now notice how I said almost. But not going as fast as someone and being infront of someone does not make a big differance. First off, you will almost never be able to pass on a straight away, second off if you are going slower you can brake later. Now I am not saying that this is something you can go hop in your car and do. This takes skill that you must aquire over experience and practice. And that will take time. Now I am sorry If I made you shit your pants with anger with my last post, but I was just sticking up for people who you were picking on. And by the way if you feel that I am angry I am not. I am happy to talk. I wrote this with a smile. Now lets talk on IM sometime my screen name is IATEPCT. Thanks for lreading Guys!
MKIISupra
01-02-2004, 02:33 PM
oops typo sorry I ment "Thanks for Reading Guys!"
Layla's Keeper
01-02-2004, 03:22 PM
Hell Dorikin, why don't we go a bit back further with DOHC engines to a little four cylinder called the OFFENHAUSER! You know, dominant engine at Indy for about 25years.
Or it's predecessors, the Meyer-Drake, Miller, and Duesenberg. Or the V8 version, the Novi, and the Novi knock-off, the Sampson.
Hmm, I seem to remember Lancia Aurelias with twin cam V6's. Oh! Oh! And then there's the infamous TWIN-CAM MGA 1100's. How about the Jaguar 3.8L straight six? The Ferrari Dino V6 in the 206S was twin-cam. Bugatti did DOHC back in the 30's, too. Aston Martin six, twin cam there. Hmmmmmmm......
Gee. Seems to me that there's absolutely NOTHING REVOLUTIONARY about the 4AG. A 1600cc DOHC four cylinder is not a new idea, nor is the 4AG one of the best examples. Let us not forget that the Corolla GTS usually got walked by its Yankee contemporary, the Dodge Omni GLH. More power, SOHC, 2.2L.
And carbureted for its first few years of production.
But, hey, the 4AG's a stout little engine with some tuning. No doubt about that. And the AE86 chassis is quite competent. In fact, lay off the solid rear axle. Let us not forget that the 289 FIA Cobra got its ass handed to it by the Ferrari 250GTO, a solid rear axle car. Leaf springs, too.
Not to mention my beloved Layla is a solid rear axle car that handles on rails. Independent suspensions are way over-rated in lightweight cars when a solid rear axle layout is well thought out.
Or it's predecessors, the Meyer-Drake, Miller, and Duesenberg. Or the V8 version, the Novi, and the Novi knock-off, the Sampson.
Hmm, I seem to remember Lancia Aurelias with twin cam V6's. Oh! Oh! And then there's the infamous TWIN-CAM MGA 1100's. How about the Jaguar 3.8L straight six? The Ferrari Dino V6 in the 206S was twin-cam. Bugatti did DOHC back in the 30's, too. Aston Martin six, twin cam there. Hmmmmmmm......
Gee. Seems to me that there's absolutely NOTHING REVOLUTIONARY about the 4AG. A 1600cc DOHC four cylinder is not a new idea, nor is the 4AG one of the best examples. Let us not forget that the Corolla GTS usually got walked by its Yankee contemporary, the Dodge Omni GLH. More power, SOHC, 2.2L.
And carbureted for its first few years of production.
But, hey, the 4AG's a stout little engine with some tuning. No doubt about that. And the AE86 chassis is quite competent. In fact, lay off the solid rear axle. Let us not forget that the 289 FIA Cobra got its ass handed to it by the Ferrari 250GTO, a solid rear axle car. Leaf springs, too.
Not to mention my beloved Layla is a solid rear axle car that handles on rails. Independent suspensions are way over-rated in lightweight cars when a solid rear axle layout is well thought out.
Dorikin
01-02-2004, 06:25 PM
HA HA, Sorry if it was just a joke? But um at first it looks like not even he took it as one.
Dont try to save face buddy, you know you got too offesnive cuz your beloved tofu-mobile was having fun poked at it. It seems like real hachi owners hate on the car all the time, and the wannabes worship it and kiss its feet(or brake pads, or bumpers, or wheels...ya)
Now to talk buisness. I never said that it is the flagship I said that it was the leader in technology. And by the way I own a 1985 Toyota Celica Supra with a 5MGE engine which the Cressida ueses also. And If i were you I would not try and tell me about it.[quote]
You said it was the top of the line, and didnt specifcy. As I said, dont try and save face. Oh, my grandma and uncle owned Cressidas, and my late aunt owned a Celica Supra, so believe me, I know my way around them.
[quote]Now my first point. The whole point of a AE86 is not having execive power. With an underpowered car, you may go through the turn full throttle. Do you not understand why Ueo can take poeple on the inside and have a higher exit speed. Do you understand why Takumi can take outside and cross his apponents line to the inside. That is the point of N/A underpower
Ok, dude, you have obviosuly never driven an AE86. If you go through the turn full throttle, you get body roll, understeer, and no drifting action. Im sure jdmkenji can vouch for some of that(it varies on the condition of the car)
Stop trying to act big and think you know shit cuz you used an example from a Super Street interview. Ueno can do that stuff because his car has 50 grand into it, weighs 1900 pounds, and has 205 hp at the wheels.
Dont even start with Initial D. I quote Moto P, who Im sure is your god, since youre such a hachi lover said this "Dont belive a thing from Initial D, its just a cartoon". I dont care if Keiichi Tsuchiya was an advisor for it. Craig Liberman was an advisor for 2F2F, and hes huge in the import world, doesnt make the movie any better.
Using Initial D as example just further proves how stupid you are.
With a high exit speed you can go just almost as fast as a much faster car. Now notice how I said almost. But not going as fast as someone and being infront of someone does not make a big differance. First off, you will almost never be able to pass on a straight away, second off if you are going slower you can brake later. Now I am not saying that this is something you can go hop in your car and do. This takes skill that you must aquire over experience and practice. And that will take time.
WTF!?!?!? What the hell are you talking about? This post makes no sense. I hope for your sake you never go practice any of this, cause your on crack. I'll leave this to Octagon, since he's far more knowledgable and experienced with regards to racing and the theory associated with it.
Now I am sorry If I made you shit your pants with anger with my last post, but I was just sticking up for people who you were picking on. And by the way if you feel that I am angry I am not. I am happy to talk. I wrote this with a smile. Now lets talk on IM sometime my screen name is IATEPCT. Thanks for lreading Guys
You wish you could get a response like that outta me. Number one, your dumb. You admitted it came off as a joke, and now you say your sticking up for someone. You dont need to stick up for anyone, because jdmkenji, myself, and anyone who hangs around hachi owners know theyre always talking trash and making fun of their cars.
I cant be bothered to waste me time with you on AIM.
Dont try to save face buddy, you know you got too offesnive cuz your beloved tofu-mobile was having fun poked at it. It seems like real hachi owners hate on the car all the time, and the wannabes worship it and kiss its feet(or brake pads, or bumpers, or wheels...ya)
Now to talk buisness. I never said that it is the flagship I said that it was the leader in technology. And by the way I own a 1985 Toyota Celica Supra with a 5MGE engine which the Cressida ueses also. And If i were you I would not try and tell me about it.[quote]
You said it was the top of the line, and didnt specifcy. As I said, dont try and save face. Oh, my grandma and uncle owned Cressidas, and my late aunt owned a Celica Supra, so believe me, I know my way around them.
[quote]Now my first point. The whole point of a AE86 is not having execive power. With an underpowered car, you may go through the turn full throttle. Do you not understand why Ueo can take poeple on the inside and have a higher exit speed. Do you understand why Takumi can take outside and cross his apponents line to the inside. That is the point of N/A underpower
Ok, dude, you have obviosuly never driven an AE86. If you go through the turn full throttle, you get body roll, understeer, and no drifting action. Im sure jdmkenji can vouch for some of that(it varies on the condition of the car)
Stop trying to act big and think you know shit cuz you used an example from a Super Street interview. Ueno can do that stuff because his car has 50 grand into it, weighs 1900 pounds, and has 205 hp at the wheels.
Dont even start with Initial D. I quote Moto P, who Im sure is your god, since youre such a hachi lover said this "Dont belive a thing from Initial D, its just a cartoon". I dont care if Keiichi Tsuchiya was an advisor for it. Craig Liberman was an advisor for 2F2F, and hes huge in the import world, doesnt make the movie any better.
Using Initial D as example just further proves how stupid you are.
With a high exit speed you can go just almost as fast as a much faster car. Now notice how I said almost. But not going as fast as someone and being infront of someone does not make a big differance. First off, you will almost never be able to pass on a straight away, second off if you are going slower you can brake later. Now I am not saying that this is something you can go hop in your car and do. This takes skill that you must aquire over experience and practice. And that will take time.
WTF!?!?!? What the hell are you talking about? This post makes no sense. I hope for your sake you never go practice any of this, cause your on crack. I'll leave this to Octagon, since he's far more knowledgable and experienced with regards to racing and the theory associated with it.
Now I am sorry If I made you shit your pants with anger with my last post, but I was just sticking up for people who you were picking on. And by the way if you feel that I am angry I am not. I am happy to talk. I wrote this with a smile. Now lets talk on IM sometime my screen name is IATEPCT. Thanks for lreading Guys
You wish you could get a response like that outta me. Number one, your dumb. You admitted it came off as a joke, and now you say your sticking up for someone. You dont need to stick up for anyone, because jdmkenji, myself, and anyone who hangs around hachi owners know theyre always talking trash and making fun of their cars.
I cant be bothered to waste me time with you on AIM.
MKIISupra
01-02-2004, 06:46 PM
First of I dont even drive. :banghead: :banghead: . I dont have my license. Second off As i siad you cant just hop into any car and do it. You have to have skill which I dont have you dont have. You need to ubtain it. All as I think about is drifting and mechanics. I probably will never be able to preform such a good drift as I spoke of. But I will try because I know it is possible. Do you not understand that there are some people out there that will devote everything to just Drive. I just want to get out there drive and keep going. I dont want to go out there to make people think that im "Pimpin" I just want to go out there and get better. And if I dont make it then its my faust that I didnt try hard enough somewhere along the line. And last of all, did I ever say i like AE86's I said I was just sticking up for him. And If I was wrong too then my mistake ok?
Dorikin
01-02-2004, 07:02 PM
First of I dont even drive. :banghead: :banghead: . I dont have my license. Second off As i siad you cant just hop into any car and do it. You have to have skill which I dont have you dont have. You need to ubtain it. All as I think about is drifting and mechanics. I probably will never be able to preform such a good drift as I spoke of. But I will try because I know it is possible. Do you not understand that there are some people out there that will devote everything to just Drive. I just want to get out there drive and keep going. I dont want to go out there to make people think that im "Pimpin" I just want to go out there and get better. And if I dont make it then its my faust that I didnt try hard enough somewhere along the line. And last of all, did I ever say i like AE86's I said I was just sticking up for him. And If I was wrong too then my mistake ok?
Ok, you dont drive, so why the hell are you talking all this crap about how Hachis are superior. As I suspected, youre an Initial D fanboy. I dont drive LEGALLY, but I still try in parking lots etc.
Second, you still talk alot of crap, most of it is non-sensical. Goodbye, Im done. You dont know shit buddy.
BTW it sure seemed as if you like AE86s. But, see above.
BTW, how do you have a car if you dont drive??
Ok, you dont drive, so why the hell are you talking all this crap about how Hachis are superior. As I suspected, youre an Initial D fanboy. I dont drive LEGALLY, but I still try in parking lots etc.
Second, you still talk alot of crap, most of it is non-sensical. Goodbye, Im done. You dont know shit buddy.
BTW it sure seemed as if you like AE86s. But, see above.
BTW, how do you have a car if you dont drive??
MKIISupra
01-02-2004, 07:43 PM
:comprage1 Ok I have A FUCKING CAR BECUAE I AM SERIOUS ABOUT THEM UNLIKE YOU! WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO TALK IF ALL YOU CAR ABOUT IS IF YOU ARE COOL AND "PIMPING" WELL GUESS WHAT NO MATTER HOW BEAT UP MY SUPRA IS I AM GONNA RACE YOU (when i get my licence) AND KICK YOUR FUCKING LAZY FAT ASS!
:thefinger
:swear:
:thefinger
:swear:
Layla's Keeper
01-02-2004, 10:05 PM
Okay. Lets see exactly what you're trying to say here. By having less power, you can carry more speed through a corner, but you won't be able to pass on a straightaway. But, you will be able to brake later and pass then.
WTF?
Guess what, THIS DOESN'T WORK. No where in any form of motorsport will they tell you that you have too much power. Maybe too much power for the chassis, but not too much power.
Grip and line are the two keys to passing anyone in any race. With enough grip, you can maintain the fastest line which is the broadest radius you can take through the corner. The less you have to steer, the faster you'll be. This is commonly referred to as Out-In-Out. Now, there is a way to "diamond" a corner and revers Out-In-Out, thus setting up a great passing oppurtunity (short track drivers have been doing this for years on tighter tracks). Basically, you have to have a frontward brake bias, because you more or less pivot the car on its nose by trail-braking while feathering the throttle and steering sharply. It takes a chassis with a slight bit of power-off oversteer (like, say, a 964 generation Porsche 911) to pull this off perfectly. And the timing is paramount because, with bad timing, you'll just understeer off course.
What you may have been trying to refer to, with an obviously stunted vocabulary, is momentum. Momentum is all about taking the line that requires the least braking. It's all about those laws of physics; namely "An object in motion stays in motion unless acted upon by an equal force" and "An object in motion will maintain a constant velocity unless acted upon by an outside force". Once a car is moving, it wants to keep moving, and you have to counteract that force of motion with an equal force, be it the force of the brakes or the tires' grip for turning.
Now, that being said, when you apply one force you "bleed off" the other. So, when you hit the brakes, you lose forward motion and have to apply accelerative force once again. With less power, this eats up time. Hence, a good chassis that can supply grip to go around corners without slowing down maintains momentum and saves time.
It has nothing to do with the car being better because it has less power. It's all in the grip of the chassis.
Try reading a book once in a while. Not a magazine or a comic. A book. Might I suggest something by Skip Barber?
WTF?
Guess what, THIS DOESN'T WORK. No where in any form of motorsport will they tell you that you have too much power. Maybe too much power for the chassis, but not too much power.
Grip and line are the two keys to passing anyone in any race. With enough grip, you can maintain the fastest line which is the broadest radius you can take through the corner. The less you have to steer, the faster you'll be. This is commonly referred to as Out-In-Out. Now, there is a way to "diamond" a corner and revers Out-In-Out, thus setting up a great passing oppurtunity (short track drivers have been doing this for years on tighter tracks). Basically, you have to have a frontward brake bias, because you more or less pivot the car on its nose by trail-braking while feathering the throttle and steering sharply. It takes a chassis with a slight bit of power-off oversteer (like, say, a 964 generation Porsche 911) to pull this off perfectly. And the timing is paramount because, with bad timing, you'll just understeer off course.
What you may have been trying to refer to, with an obviously stunted vocabulary, is momentum. Momentum is all about taking the line that requires the least braking. It's all about those laws of physics; namely "An object in motion stays in motion unless acted upon by an equal force" and "An object in motion will maintain a constant velocity unless acted upon by an outside force". Once a car is moving, it wants to keep moving, and you have to counteract that force of motion with an equal force, be it the force of the brakes or the tires' grip for turning.
Now, that being said, when you apply one force you "bleed off" the other. So, when you hit the brakes, you lose forward motion and have to apply accelerative force once again. With less power, this eats up time. Hence, a good chassis that can supply grip to go around corners without slowing down maintains momentum and saves time.
It has nothing to do with the car being better because it has less power. It's all in the grip of the chassis.
Try reading a book once in a while. Not a magazine or a comic. A book. Might I suggest something by Skip Barber?
-The Stig-
01-02-2004, 10:42 PM
Try reading a book once in a while. Not a magazine or a comic. A book. Might I suggest something by Skip Barber?
I think you mean Dr. Seuss, after all he's just a kid. :p
If you're interested, Seussville.com (http://www.seussville.com/seussville/)
I think you mean Dr. Seuss, after all he's just a kid. :p
If you're interested, Seussville.com (http://www.seussville.com/seussville/)
Dorikin
01-03-2004, 12:14 AM
:comprage1 Ok I have A FUCKING CAR BECUAE I AM SERIOUS ABOUT THEM UNLIKE YOU! WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO TALK IF ALL YOU CAR ABOUT IS IF YOU ARE COOL AND "PIMPING" WELL GUESS WHAT NO MATTER HOW BEAT UP MY SUPRA IS I AM GONNA RACE YOU (when i get my licence) AND KICK YOUR FUCKING LAZY FAT ASS!
:thefinger
:swear:
I cant afford insurance. You can. That doesnt mean your better than me. I drive my dads car. I dont need to get my own car yet, because school is close, and frankly, I love driving the car. I dont pimp with my car, because I can get girls naturally.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid80/p38602f4068eb90c7511edc52f6b8b1b8/fb08f67c.jpg
Heres me in my buddies AE86, one of three he owns. As you can see, I'm not fat, and Im sunburnt from working on his car in the pit lanes all day, so I'm not lazy.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/p6a1f72019d1304ffa53cceda66784650/fbc9865b.jpg
Here's my car. It does 0-60 in 6.8 seconds, the quarter in high 14s, has 50/50 weight blance, trunk mounted battery, and uber-light rims.
Bring it on.
Octagon-He;s been watching too many rigged drifting competitions and cartoons. Let Darwin get the better of him.
:thefinger
:swear:
I cant afford insurance. You can. That doesnt mean your better than me. I drive my dads car. I dont need to get my own car yet, because school is close, and frankly, I love driving the car. I dont pimp with my car, because I can get girls naturally.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid80/p38602f4068eb90c7511edc52f6b8b1b8/fb08f67c.jpg
Heres me in my buddies AE86, one of three he owns. As you can see, I'm not fat, and Im sunburnt from working on his car in the pit lanes all day, so I'm not lazy.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/p6a1f72019d1304ffa53cceda66784650/fbc9865b.jpg
Here's my car. It does 0-60 in 6.8 seconds, the quarter in high 14s, has 50/50 weight blance, trunk mounted battery, and uber-light rims.
Bring it on.
Octagon-He;s been watching too many rigged drifting competitions and cartoons. Let Darwin get the better of him.
Suislide
01-03-2004, 12:26 AM
:disappoin
Derek, you just asked me to ban this guy over MSN because he was flaming you through-out the whole thread. yet somehow you failed to mention that you flamed back JUST AS MUCH or maybe even more then he did.
i hate to bring this to you so bluntly, but NEWSFLASH! just because i am your friend outside of AF DOES NOT mean that you get special privileges, or get to tell me when or when not to ban someone. if you had told me about this, and shown me the thread, and he was the only one doing flaming, then he would be taking a week's vacation from AF. but instead, you told me he was doing all the flaming, and led me to a thread where you were baiting him and flaming him back just as much!
another NEWSFLASH! i hate to bring this so bluntly to you as well, but the 530i IS YOUR DAD'S CAR! NOT YOUR'S! from now on, every time i see you put "my car" in a thread in reference to the BMW, i will personally replace it with "my dad's car". yes, you did say it in the last post, but not before that.
sorry i had to bring this all to light, but i am here to keep AF in peace, not do you personal favours by banning people who piss you off. but i'm still your friend.
MKIISupra - keep up this pace and you will not be around AF any longer. this is warning number one. if i see you flame one more time, you will be gone. the length of your banning will be determined by the seriousness of the flame, but either way, whether permanent or temporary, the next time you ban, you will be gone.
nice can, Kenji, and sorry i have to do this, but i think we can all agree that this thread has done it's duty and reached an intellectual low.
CLOSED.
Derek, you just asked me to ban this guy over MSN because he was flaming you through-out the whole thread. yet somehow you failed to mention that you flamed back JUST AS MUCH or maybe even more then he did.
i hate to bring this to you so bluntly, but NEWSFLASH! just because i am your friend outside of AF DOES NOT mean that you get special privileges, or get to tell me when or when not to ban someone. if you had told me about this, and shown me the thread, and he was the only one doing flaming, then he would be taking a week's vacation from AF. but instead, you told me he was doing all the flaming, and led me to a thread where you were baiting him and flaming him back just as much!
another NEWSFLASH! i hate to bring this so bluntly to you as well, but the 530i IS YOUR DAD'S CAR! NOT YOUR'S! from now on, every time i see you put "my car" in a thread in reference to the BMW, i will personally replace it with "my dad's car". yes, you did say it in the last post, but not before that.
sorry i had to bring this all to light, but i am here to keep AF in peace, not do you personal favours by banning people who piss you off. but i'm still your friend.
MKIISupra - keep up this pace and you will not be around AF any longer. this is warning number one. if i see you flame one more time, you will be gone. the length of your banning will be determined by the seriousness of the flame, but either way, whether permanent or temporary, the next time you ban, you will be gone.
nice can, Kenji, and sorry i have to do this, but i think we can all agree that this thread has done it's duty and reached an intellectual low.
CLOSED.
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