Nissan Skyline GT-R R35 is it coming to the us?
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Jesse_GT-R
09-24-2003, 12:34 AM
I sure hope the latest skyline doesnt come to the united states.Then every mindless loser is going to go and buy one because the skyline was in the movies i think it should only be availible for the real nissan skyline gt-r r34-35 enthusists. i hate people who just go and buy cars to follow the crowd like the toyota supra the lancer and the eclipse they just jumped on the bandwagon!!!!!!
scourge2u
09-24-2003, 04:19 AM
huh?!?! If it does it come, its going to be over $50,000USD so if you think that ricers are going to be pouncing on this, you have no clue about how things work in real life.
Its not going to be a high production car.
Its going to be expensive.
Insurance will be cost prohibitive for kids.
Its not linked to the past Skylines.
Relax. What you suggest will absolutely not happen.
Its not going to be a high production car.
Its going to be expensive.
Insurance will be cost prohibitive for kids.
Its not linked to the past Skylines.
Relax. What you suggest will absolutely not happen.
Moppie
09-24-2003, 05:08 AM
Its not going to be a high production car.
Its going to be expensive.
Insurance will be cost prohibitive for kids.
Its not linked to the past Skylines.
Relax. What you suggest will absolutely not happen.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
If its not a high production car then Renult won't allow it to be built, it has to sell enough units to make a profit.
It won't be mass mass production a Sentra, but it will be made and hopefully sold in the thousands.
It will be expensive relative to a Sentra, but it will be cheaper than other cars in its performance class, e.g Porsche.
Insurance will be just as much as other cars in its class, if you can afford the car, you can afford the insurance.
And what do you mean it won't be linked to other skylines? :shakehead
You don't drop 30 years of History, its the best free marketing there ever was.
Quite simply when the EVO 8 and WRX went on sale in US did a whole bunch of boyracers end or driving them? No.
Why not? becuase like all new cars they are out of the price range of most of those people.
If there was a lesser version released onto the market, say the G35 with out the infinity badge, and 4cyl engine then prehaps you might get kids with wannabe look alike cars, but that is very unlikely.
Here in NZ seeing a skyline is an everyday occurance, everyday I see one that has been somehow or another boy racerised, and ruined, but I have never seen a GTR driven by anyone but someone who could afford it, and treat it with respect, simply because it is in a class above the average car (including other skylines).
Its going to be expensive.
Insurance will be cost prohibitive for kids.
Its not linked to the past Skylines.
Relax. What you suggest will absolutely not happen.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
If its not a high production car then Renult won't allow it to be built, it has to sell enough units to make a profit.
It won't be mass mass production a Sentra, but it will be made and hopefully sold in the thousands.
It will be expensive relative to a Sentra, but it will be cheaper than other cars in its performance class, e.g Porsche.
Insurance will be just as much as other cars in its class, if you can afford the car, you can afford the insurance.
And what do you mean it won't be linked to other skylines? :shakehead
You don't drop 30 years of History, its the best free marketing there ever was.
Quite simply when the EVO 8 and WRX went on sale in US did a whole bunch of boyracers end or driving them? No.
Why not? becuase like all new cars they are out of the price range of most of those people.
If there was a lesser version released onto the market, say the G35 with out the infinity badge, and 4cyl engine then prehaps you might get kids with wannabe look alike cars, but that is very unlikely.
Here in NZ seeing a skyline is an everyday occurance, everyday I see one that has been somehow or another boy racerised, and ruined, but I have never seen a GTR driven by anyone but someone who could afford it, and treat it with respect, simply because it is in a class above the average car (including other skylines).
VQuick
09-25-2003, 03:43 PM
Paraphrased from the article "Mr Skyline GT-R" in the Feb. 2003 issue of car.
Ghosn visited the NISMO Festival in 2001, witnessed the fanatical devotion to the GT-R first hand, and liked what he saw. He believes there's no reason why such a car should not be as popular in America and Europe. But that means the end of the road for the straight six engine layout that has been part of the Skyline mystique since the 1960s.
About the RB, Nissan's product planner for the Skyline, Hiroshi Tamura, said "We cannot use the straight six engine, because it's too costly to build a left-hand-drive car with that engine; the air intake is on that side of the car, and we can't change it without doubling costs."
The GT-R concept car revealed at the 2001 Tokyo motor show was, Tamura insists, just that-a concept. The next car will be a new generation GT-R, Tamura insists. "Porsche 993 to 996 was a big step. Ferrari 355 to 360 was a big step. We must make an even bigger leap than that for the next generation GT-R. What we are saying to customers is, be patient, trust us, we will make it for you."
Ghosn visited the NISMO Festival in 2001, witnessed the fanatical devotion to the GT-R first hand, and liked what he saw. He believes there's no reason why such a car should not be as popular in America and Europe. But that means the end of the road for the straight six engine layout that has been part of the Skyline mystique since the 1960s.
About the RB, Nissan's product planner for the Skyline, Hiroshi Tamura, said "We cannot use the straight six engine, because it's too costly to build a left-hand-drive car with that engine; the air intake is on that side of the car, and we can't change it without doubling costs."
The GT-R concept car revealed at the 2001 Tokyo motor show was, Tamura insists, just that-a concept. The next car will be a new generation GT-R, Tamura insists. "Porsche 993 to 996 was a big step. Ferrari 355 to 360 was a big step. We must make an even bigger leap than that for the next generation GT-R. What we are saying to customers is, be patient, trust us, we will make it for you."
scourge2u
09-26-2003, 09:26 PM
Moppie, you really think you have a clue. How cute.
The Skyline is not going to be a mass production car. They NEVER have been. The Skyline will never sell as many units as a Honda Civic...period. Only a few thousand will be sold each year. Its about economics....simple economics.
Insurance costs will prevent all the ricer kids from getting one. The Skyline will be cost prohibitive to be a bandwagon car. See how simple this is?
This Skyline is NOT in any way related to the last generations of Skylines (R32, R33, R34). Its a completely different car in every way. All the Playstation kiddies want their game car, but this one isn't it. Its new. Of course, it will be marketed as the next step in the line of Skylines, but its not what every US kid thinks he knows about Skylines. Are you finally comprehending?
NZ is completely differnent than the US. The markets are not comparable because you haver access to cars we never did/will and thus you have a different kind of buyer.
Now, I hope others who can't see the obvious now have a clue as well.
The Skyline is not going to be a mass production car. They NEVER have been. The Skyline will never sell as many units as a Honda Civic...period. Only a few thousand will be sold each year. Its about economics....simple economics.
Insurance costs will prevent all the ricer kids from getting one. The Skyline will be cost prohibitive to be a bandwagon car. See how simple this is?
This Skyline is NOT in any way related to the last generations of Skylines (R32, R33, R34). Its a completely different car in every way. All the Playstation kiddies want their game car, but this one isn't it. Its new. Of course, it will be marketed as the next step in the line of Skylines, but its not what every US kid thinks he knows about Skylines. Are you finally comprehending?
NZ is completely differnent than the US. The markets are not comparable because you haver access to cars we never did/will and thus you have a different kind of buyer.
Now, I hope others who can't see the obvious now have a clue as well.
RazorGTR
09-26-2003, 11:23 PM
In saying that, odds are there will be two versions. There seems to be a lot of that out of Japan. A JDM version and American version. Case in point was the 200sx. A lot of the sources that I have that go to Japan every month have also said the same thing.
Either way the GTR will be a limited produced car. Limited to what, who is to say. They may produce as an example of 5,000 units for the JDM market while the American market may only see 2,000 units. Who knows. The first two years will either make or break the car's viability.
Either way the GTR will be a limited produced car. Limited to what, who is to say. They may produce as an example of 5,000 units for the JDM market while the American market may only see 2,000 units. Who knows. The first two years will either make or break the car's viability.
Moppie
09-28-2003, 12:26 AM
Either way the GTR will be a limited produced car. Limited to what, who is to say.
Remmeber that are more than two markets in the world, the GTR is just as popular in Europe and the UK as it is in America, and any model built to meet US regulations will easily meet Europeans ones.
Add in the Renult connection and its pretty much a given that the car will be sold in Europe.
The cars popularity here in NZ and Ausie, as well as the rest of Asia also can't be over looked, Australians at the moment are buying record numbers of exotic cars, and there is always a demand for them in places like Hong Kong and Singapore.
If the car is even half as good as it should be I believe you can double the numbers, 10,000 units is not an unrealistic number, especialy if more than one version is produced.
The two versions idea is a strong possiblity, its not like it hasnt been done before.
Triumphs, Austins and MGs from the 50s and 60s all had Worlds models, and US models, Lotus, Ferrari and others did it during the 70s and 80s, and now Mitsi and Subaru are doing it with the WRX and EVO VIII.
And of course everything from the Corrola to the Civic to the Maxima has been sold in a variety of versions and sizes for a variety of differnt markets.
From a political and social perspective there is the rest of the world, and there is America. Car manufactors are well aware of the differnces, and have been doing clever things to overcome them for some time.
scourge2u Grow up :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Remmeber that are more than two markets in the world, the GTR is just as popular in Europe and the UK as it is in America, and any model built to meet US regulations will easily meet Europeans ones.
Add in the Renult connection and its pretty much a given that the car will be sold in Europe.
The cars popularity here in NZ and Ausie, as well as the rest of Asia also can't be over looked, Australians at the moment are buying record numbers of exotic cars, and there is always a demand for them in places like Hong Kong and Singapore.
If the car is even half as good as it should be I believe you can double the numbers, 10,000 units is not an unrealistic number, especialy if more than one version is produced.
The two versions idea is a strong possiblity, its not like it hasnt been done before.
Triumphs, Austins and MGs from the 50s and 60s all had Worlds models, and US models, Lotus, Ferrari and others did it during the 70s and 80s, and now Mitsi and Subaru are doing it with the WRX and EVO VIII.
And of course everything from the Corrola to the Civic to the Maxima has been sold in a variety of versions and sizes for a variety of differnt markets.
From a political and social perspective there is the rest of the world, and there is America. Car manufactors are well aware of the differnces, and have been doing clever things to overcome them for some time.
scourge2u Grow up :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
scourge2u
09-28-2003, 04:38 AM
10,000 units is not a high volume car, especially when you take into account thats 10,000 units world wide.
Moppie, learn to reason properly. :loser:
Moppie, learn to reason properly. :loser:
Moppie
09-28-2003, 06:24 AM
Moppie, learn to reason properly
You dont know the meaning of the word reason, when you learn it come back and try again, you will still be wrong, ignorant and niave, but you can always keep trying.
When you are talking about a car with a NZ$100,000+ price tag, a limited market and a production life of no more than 5 years, maybe even less given current trends, then 10,000 units is a lot.
Its all relative.
You dont know the meaning of the word reason, when you learn it come back and try again, you will still be wrong, ignorant and niave, but you can always keep trying.
When you are talking about a car with a NZ$100,000+ price tag, a limited market and a production life of no more than 5 years, maybe even less given current trends, then 10,000 units is a lot.
Its all relative.
scourge2u
09-28-2003, 09:23 AM
Dont play with people smarter than you are, I have a degree in philosophy and over 10 years working in the Automotive industry.
Also dont flame other members, its imature and will earn you no respect here.
Your post has been delt with accordingly.
Moppie
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HAHAHAHAHA! What little bitch. I have two degrees and will complete my third in May. Big damn deal! You are still acting like an arrogant spoiled child. You talked shit and got smacked back in your place and now you going crying to mommy to delete this fact in hopes that others won't see you for the petty fool that you are. How pathetic that you can't take getting proven wrong.
Also dont flame other members, its imature and will earn you no respect here.
Your post has been delt with accordingly.
Moppie
Moderator.
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HAHAHAHAHA! What little bitch. I have two degrees and will complete my third in May. Big damn deal! You are still acting like an arrogant spoiled child. You talked shit and got smacked back in your place and now you going crying to mommy to delete this fact in hopes that others won't see you for the petty fool that you are. How pathetic that you can't take getting proven wrong.
tazdev
09-29-2003, 02:26 AM
The Skyline is not going to be a mass production car. They NEVER have been. The Skyline will never sell as many units as a Honda Civic...period. Only a few thousand will be sold each year. Its about economics....simple economics.
you have no clue.
The skyline has, is and always will be a mass production car the Skyline name belongs to more than just the GT-R and if you say otherwise then yes you are truely ignorant.
check the facts before you post :nono:
you have no clue.
The skyline has, is and always will be a mass production car the Skyline name belongs to more than just the GT-R and if you say otherwise then yes you are truely ignorant.
check the facts before you post :nono:
Moppie
09-29-2003, 04:15 AM
Dont play with people smarter than you are, I have a degree in philosophy and over 10 years working in the Automotive industry.
Also dont flame other members, its imature and will earn you no respect here.
Your post has been delt with accordingly.
Moppie
Moderator.
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HAHAHAHAHA! What little bitch. I have two degrees and will complete my third in May. Big damn deal! You are still acting like an arrogant spoiled child. You talked shit and got smacked back in your place and now you going crying to mommy to delete this fact in hopes that others won't see you for the petty fool that you are. How pathetic that you can't take getting proven wrong.
WTF? :screwy: :screwy: :screwy:
Anyway, he won't be bothering us for a day or two, so I did a little search of the net for GTR production numbers.
Found little I could trust for R34 numbers, but there were roughly 40,000 R32 GTRs built, but just over 10,000 R33 GTRs built, I will assume there were only a similar number of R34s built, basicly as the car got older, so did the technology and its impact on the automotive world dwindled as other manufactors created similar cars with equal levels of performance so its demand dropped. It dosn't bode well for a new GTR, unless; new GTR can create the same level of awe and sensation that the first R32 did (it will be VERY hard, but Nissan have proven they can do it at least once) then there is no reason that it couldn't sell signifacntly more than 40,000 units, especialy when you remember that there are 3 new potential markets to include.
A number closer to 100,000 is realistic possiblity, and Im sure something that Nissan is hopeing for.
Also dont flame other members, its imature and will earn you no respect here.
Your post has been delt with accordingly.
Moppie
Moderator.
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HAHAHAHAHA! What little bitch. I have two degrees and will complete my third in May. Big damn deal! You are still acting like an arrogant spoiled child. You talked shit and got smacked back in your place and now you going crying to mommy to delete this fact in hopes that others won't see you for the petty fool that you are. How pathetic that you can't take getting proven wrong.
WTF? :screwy: :screwy: :screwy:
Anyway, he won't be bothering us for a day or two, so I did a little search of the net for GTR production numbers.
Found little I could trust for R34 numbers, but there were roughly 40,000 R32 GTRs built, but just over 10,000 R33 GTRs built, I will assume there were only a similar number of R34s built, basicly as the car got older, so did the technology and its impact on the automotive world dwindled as other manufactors created similar cars with equal levels of performance so its demand dropped. It dosn't bode well for a new GTR, unless; new GTR can create the same level of awe and sensation that the first R32 did (it will be VERY hard, but Nissan have proven they can do it at least once) then there is no reason that it couldn't sell signifacntly more than 40,000 units, especialy when you remember that there are 3 new potential markets to include.
A number closer to 100,000 is realistic possiblity, and Im sure something that Nissan is hopeing for.
tazdev
09-30-2003, 03:31 AM
it all depands on if they get the styling right I guess
Moppie
09-30-2003, 08:06 AM
it all depands on if they get the styling right I guess
Thats a good point, but just how important will the styling be?
The R32 sold in huge numbers because it sometime totaly new and differnt, that fact that it looks cool would have only been a small factor in why people bought it.
Thats a good point, but just how important will the styling be?
The R32 sold in huge numbers because it sometime totaly new and differnt, that fact that it looks cool would have only been a small factor in why people bought it.
RazorGTR
09-30-2003, 01:11 PM
As with a super car such as the Viper, Z06 Vette, Porsche GT3 etc not many units are sold world wide in total. The general consensus is it is suppose to compete against the other cars of such hence a low estimate. I am sure only Nissan/Renault will know at the end of the day what the projected planned sales will be.
These cars are not your average daily shopping trolly as mentioned before and the manufacturers know and understand this. While there will always be the enthusiasts who wish, most won't purchase new, if the price tag is as high as it may be. You only need to review the sales of the R34 GTR. Though it wasn't released in the states sales were at an all time low due to its continued high price tag. NZ didn't see its first new R34 GTR until 2000, and OZ the same.
These cars are not your average daily shopping trolly as mentioned before and the manufacturers know and understand this. While there will always be the enthusiasts who wish, most won't purchase new, if the price tag is as high as it may be. You only need to review the sales of the R34 GTR. Though it wasn't released in the states sales were at an all time low due to its continued high price tag. NZ didn't see its first new R34 GTR until 2000, and OZ the same.
scourge2u
10-02-2003, 10:00 AM
RazorGTR speaks the truth. Its amazing how many people who don't even own a Skyline or live around Skylines constantly think they are the next expert on the subject and they cannot be questioned. :screwy:
Its quite pathetic when these people get bested in reasoning abilty yet throw a tantrum when they lose. And all that immaturity over....a car. :loser: The OP comments are way off base and no one with an ounce of reality would ever consider such events to ever come true.
Its quite pathetic when these people get bested in reasoning abilty yet throw a tantrum when they lose. And all that immaturity over....a car. :loser: The OP comments are way off base and no one with an ounce of reality would ever consider such events to ever come true.
OoNismoO
10-04-2003, 03:16 PM
ive seen pictures of the new skyline, and i think the r34 looks better. i just dont like the headlights on the newer skyline, the rest of it seems alright to me.
Akisan2
10-05-2003, 05:15 AM
RazorGTR speaks the truth. Its amazing how many people who don't even own a Skyline or live around Skylines constantly think they are the next expert on the subject and they cannot be questioned. :screwy:
Its quite pathetic when these people get bested in reasoning abilty yet throw a tantrum when they lose. And all that immaturity over....a car. :loser: The OP comments are way off base and no one with an ounce of reality would ever consider such events to ever come true.
scourge, I really don't dig how you tend to like others to think you know everything about "skyline." I think you are quite knowledgeable, but...Did you even know that skyline was first introduced at 1957 as a sedan with ground breaking i4 60 hp? The first ever ALSI skyline was a shocker since this was one of the first vehicle to introduce "sporty sedan" at least in japan.
Did you even know the GTR was only first introduced for show purspose only at August 1987? GTR didn't even exist when skyline was first introduced from the begining. Skyline was born Sedan
:eek:
Skyline was meant to be a "Luxury Sports" car. Wether that meant it to be coupe or sedan it don't matter. The new G35, 11th gen skyline actually brings the car back to its roots. I really feel that this brought back what the skyline was all about without this GTR craze. Remember, GTR is just an extension of the skyline car lineup. GTR is just a different version of the actual skyline.
I hope you know that infiniti g35 IS 11th gen Skyline...you do right?
It seems like no one knows where this skyline hype came from, so this is the short story why.
The second generation skyline model S50 claimed this car's fame when this mass produced car raced the prototype sports car porche 904gt and S50 passed the specially designed porche at the 7th lap on the hairpin curve on the second annual Japanese Grand Prix. Get this: this skyline was the MASS produced version. Anyone could have bought this car. This was a complete shocker to both the people and the racers. Hence Skyline got its name "A wolf with an appearance of a sheep" This is where it all started.
I can go on and on with the actual skyline history. But back to the topic.
As much as I've seen, read, heard....the new skyline GTR will come out to us under 60K with 3.3 or 3.5L V6 dunno if it is still going to be called VQ33dett or vq35dett..... maybe? It will be twin turbo-ed, with Major inprovements to ATESA 4wd system with even LSD features....all tuned by Lotus, and engine is tuned by Cosworth. GTR has tradition that can only be carried by its name GTR. This is that GTR carries special engine that is not carried by any other nissan.Byt getting this engine tuned by Cosworth, it keeps the tradition. The body is going to be mainly based off G35 platform and style as well, though there will be some modifications.
I really don't know when exactly this car is going to be made public, but Nissan is trying to aim 2005 fall. And I assume they would launch this in US since there will be a great market in USA especially with that price. Nissan is really trying to go big, so I won't be surprised to see this car getting produced in very high numbers. Personally I don't mind cause I really want people to have oppurtunities to own this wonderful piece of machinary that only japanese people got to enjoy in last 50 years. I think it is just plain wonderful. skyline is without a doubt a car that holds something special for All japanese car enthusiasts, not for its performance but what it did as a car with the history of jaapanese car industries. Its hard for anyone else to understand why people hype up about this car.
Now i don't own skyline so that prolly makes you think "yeah what you know" You can think whatever cause I will be buying the g35 soon and I will be owner anyways, but hey what do I know about GTr right?
Anyways, you can deny what i say I don't care. I can be wrong but I don't read or hear any otjer news so its up to people if you believe me or not. Only time will tell, But I have good idea about how this is going to be so I'm happy :smile:
Its quite pathetic when these people get bested in reasoning abilty yet throw a tantrum when they lose. And all that immaturity over....a car. :loser: The OP comments are way off base and no one with an ounce of reality would ever consider such events to ever come true.
scourge, I really don't dig how you tend to like others to think you know everything about "skyline." I think you are quite knowledgeable, but...Did you even know that skyline was first introduced at 1957 as a sedan with ground breaking i4 60 hp? The first ever ALSI skyline was a shocker since this was one of the first vehicle to introduce "sporty sedan" at least in japan.
Did you even know the GTR was only first introduced for show purspose only at August 1987? GTR didn't even exist when skyline was first introduced from the begining. Skyline was born Sedan
:eek:
Skyline was meant to be a "Luxury Sports" car. Wether that meant it to be coupe or sedan it don't matter. The new G35, 11th gen skyline actually brings the car back to its roots. I really feel that this brought back what the skyline was all about without this GTR craze. Remember, GTR is just an extension of the skyline car lineup. GTR is just a different version of the actual skyline.
I hope you know that infiniti g35 IS 11th gen Skyline...you do right?
It seems like no one knows where this skyline hype came from, so this is the short story why.
The second generation skyline model S50 claimed this car's fame when this mass produced car raced the prototype sports car porche 904gt and S50 passed the specially designed porche at the 7th lap on the hairpin curve on the second annual Japanese Grand Prix. Get this: this skyline was the MASS produced version. Anyone could have bought this car. This was a complete shocker to both the people and the racers. Hence Skyline got its name "A wolf with an appearance of a sheep" This is where it all started.
I can go on and on with the actual skyline history. But back to the topic.
As much as I've seen, read, heard....the new skyline GTR will come out to us under 60K with 3.3 or 3.5L V6 dunno if it is still going to be called VQ33dett or vq35dett..... maybe? It will be twin turbo-ed, with Major inprovements to ATESA 4wd system with even LSD features....all tuned by Lotus, and engine is tuned by Cosworth. GTR has tradition that can only be carried by its name GTR. This is that GTR carries special engine that is not carried by any other nissan.Byt getting this engine tuned by Cosworth, it keeps the tradition. The body is going to be mainly based off G35 platform and style as well, though there will be some modifications.
I really don't know when exactly this car is going to be made public, but Nissan is trying to aim 2005 fall. And I assume they would launch this in US since there will be a great market in USA especially with that price. Nissan is really trying to go big, so I won't be surprised to see this car getting produced in very high numbers. Personally I don't mind cause I really want people to have oppurtunities to own this wonderful piece of machinary that only japanese people got to enjoy in last 50 years. I think it is just plain wonderful. skyline is without a doubt a car that holds something special for All japanese car enthusiasts, not for its performance but what it did as a car with the history of jaapanese car industries. Its hard for anyone else to understand why people hype up about this car.
Now i don't own skyline so that prolly makes you think "yeah what you know" You can think whatever cause I will be buying the g35 soon and I will be owner anyways, but hey what do I know about GTr right?
Anyways, you can deny what i say I don't care. I can be wrong but I don't read or hear any otjer news so its up to people if you believe me or not. Only time will tell, But I have good idea about how this is going to be so I'm happy :smile:
Moppie
10-05-2003, 06:13 AM
Don't worry about scourge2u, he's no alonger around to offer his insightful, if some what inaccurate opinions.
rsxer45
10-05-2003, 06:02 PM
Did you even know the GTR was only first introduced for show purspose only at August 1987? GTR didn't even exist when skyline was first introduced from the begining. Skyline was born Sedan
:eek:
A minor correction. I thought the first GT-R came out in 1969 (when the 3rd gen skylines were being produced) with the KPGC10. It was a 2.0 liter,twin cam, 24-valve, triple-carb straight six, with about 160hp. :)
http://www.skylinesdownunder.com/mod/userpage/images/gen33.jpg
:eek:
A minor correction. I thought the first GT-R came out in 1969 (when the 3rd gen skylines were being produced) with the KPGC10. It was a 2.0 liter,twin cam, 24-valve, triple-carb straight six, with about 160hp. :)
http://www.skylinesdownunder.com/mod/userpage/images/gen33.jpg
Akisan2
10-05-2003, 09:58 PM
A minor correction. I thought the first GT-R came out in 1969 (when the 3rd gen skylines were being produced) with the KPGC10. It was a 2.0 liter,twin cam, 24-valve, triple-carb straight six, with about 160hp. :)
http://www.skylinesdownunder.com/mod/userpage/images/gen33.jpg
Ah ok I was mentioning about GTS-R model from the 7th gen.
Hmm yeah now i think about it i was rather incorrect and didn't research enough. You are right, GTR has alot of history. I was only mentioning about the actual skyline car history and didn't think deep enough about the GTR. Wow i was stupid wasn't I?
:uhoh:
Thanks for the correction, now i know... :cwm27:
http://www.skylinesdownunder.com/mod/userpage/images/gen33.jpg
Ah ok I was mentioning about GTS-R model from the 7th gen.
Hmm yeah now i think about it i was rather incorrect and didn't research enough. You are right, GTR has alot of history. I was only mentioning about the actual skyline car history and didn't think deep enough about the GTR. Wow i was stupid wasn't I?
:uhoh:
Thanks for the correction, now i know... :cwm27:
DUOMAXWELL
10-06-2003, 11:33 PM
Dear folks,
I am new to this site and been a Skyline fan since 1993 (started surfing heavily on the internet and found a purple r33), now ten years later I can afford one (FINALLY)! Anyway, I have two comments first, I agree with scourge about alot of points, the Skyline may be a mass production series (Moppe), but try finding a R34 GT-R VspecII, then I agree about limited availability. I am in the market for one and I will admit, after going to Japan and vsiting a dealership (and almost getting the American public a bad name :icon16: ) and even drove a local's (whom my best friend new of course) I have to agree I am not an expert, but I will learn more once I am able to get one in my possesion. Now the thing that really bother's me is that, A: should I spend the money on importing, certifying, and then moding one here in the states, or B: (pardon the language) fu@@ing wait until USA get's off the war happy ass and let's us savor true victory (I am a very loyal and patriotic individual, but damn the cost is high :) ) Anyway, I would like to get some other people's advice and comment regarding whom I can talk to and possibly to purchase and import here to the state's! Thanks again!
I am new to this site and been a Skyline fan since 1993 (started surfing heavily on the internet and found a purple r33), now ten years later I can afford one (FINALLY)! Anyway, I have two comments first, I agree with scourge about alot of points, the Skyline may be a mass production series (Moppe), but try finding a R34 GT-R VspecII, then I agree about limited availability. I am in the market for one and I will admit, after going to Japan and vsiting a dealership (and almost getting the American public a bad name :icon16: ) and even drove a local's (whom my best friend new of course) I have to agree I am not an expert, but I will learn more once I am able to get one in my possesion. Now the thing that really bother's me is that, A: should I spend the money on importing, certifying, and then moding one here in the states, or B: (pardon the language) fu@@ing wait until USA get's off the war happy ass and let's us savor true victory (I am a very loyal and patriotic individual, but damn the cost is high :) ) Anyway, I would like to get some other people's advice and comment regarding whom I can talk to and possibly to purchase and import here to the state's! Thanks again!
Akisan2
10-07-2003, 02:47 AM
Dear folks,
I am new to this site and been a Skyline fan since 1993 (started surfing heavily on the internet and found a purple r33), now ten years later I can afford one (FINALLY)! Anyway, I have two comments first, I agree with scourge about alot of points, the Skyline may be a mass production series (Moppe), but try finding a R34 GT-R VspecII, then I agree about limited availability. I am in the market for one and I will admit, after going to Japan and vsiting a dealership (and almost getting the American public a bad name :icon16: ) and even drove a local's (whom my best friend new of course) I have to agree I am not an expert, but I will learn more once I am able to get one in my possesion. Now the thing that really bother's me is that, A: should I spend the money on importing, certifying, and then moding one here in the states, or B: (pardon the language) fu@@ing wait until USA get's off the war happy ass and let's us savor true victory (I am a very loyal and patriotic individual, but damn the cost is high :) ) Anyway, I would like to get some other people's advice and comment regarding whom I can talk to and possibly to purchase and import here to the state's! Thanks again!
Start by contacting motorex, that' would be a logical start i think....though motorex has something going on...? By they are the one you should talk to if you are serious about owning 10th gen skyline and older here in US...i think....
I am new to this site and been a Skyline fan since 1993 (started surfing heavily on the internet and found a purple r33), now ten years later I can afford one (FINALLY)! Anyway, I have two comments first, I agree with scourge about alot of points, the Skyline may be a mass production series (Moppe), but try finding a R34 GT-R VspecII, then I agree about limited availability. I am in the market for one and I will admit, after going to Japan and vsiting a dealership (and almost getting the American public a bad name :icon16: ) and even drove a local's (whom my best friend new of course) I have to agree I am not an expert, but I will learn more once I am able to get one in my possesion. Now the thing that really bother's me is that, A: should I spend the money on importing, certifying, and then moding one here in the states, or B: (pardon the language) fu@@ing wait until USA get's off the war happy ass and let's us savor true victory (I am a very loyal and patriotic individual, but damn the cost is high :) ) Anyway, I would like to get some other people's advice and comment regarding whom I can talk to and possibly to purchase and import here to the state's! Thanks again!
Start by contacting motorex, that' would be a logical start i think....though motorex has something going on...? By they are the one you should talk to if you are serious about owning 10th gen skyline and older here in US...i think....
Jin@Kazama
10-17-2003, 07:12 PM
I sure hope the latest skyline doesnt come to the united states.Then every mindless loser is going to go and buy one because the skyline was in the movies i think it should only be availible for the real nissan skyline gt-r r34-35 enthusists. i hate people who just go and buy cars to follow the crowd like the toyota supra the lancer and the eclipse they just jumped on the bandwagon!!!!!!
Skyline will come in 2006 and they will cost around $40,000 to $60,000 depending on the engine work.
Skyline will come in 2006 and they will cost around $40,000 to $60,000 depending on the engine work.
la300zxtt
10-22-2003, 08:11 PM
my dad did a deal with Nissan motor corp of america and i asked him he said the yes Jin@kazama is correct but as far as he knows weather its tt or n/a is still in the works... and that it is 85% sure its a vq35de... YAY i get one too...
as121
10-25-2003, 01:58 AM
I will be honest, I do not know a lot about the Skyline GT-Rs. But certainly hope that the R35 is available in the US. Nissan would be stupid not to offer it. Like several have pointed out some people would want one just because they have been in movies, others would want one for the same reason many of you do, they are an amazing car. While the GT-R is a low production car, the Skyline isn't, and they use many of the same components, whether you like it or not most of the GT-R IS mass produced. With all of the publicity that the movies have thrust upon the GT-R Nissan would be foolish not to release it in the US. Ever heard the saying "Money makes the world go 'round", guess what, it's true.
la300zxtt
10-25-2003, 03:20 AM
ure right ^ they would be but it is fer sher. in one of nissans statements they said they want to sell as many as they can.... and i can't wait till after they relase what will be known as the GT-R (there dropping the skyline name but there calling it a GT-R and the teh chassi code is r35 wtf????) because i love maximas does anyone member the vq35dett awd pre pro maxima running like 350 at the wheels.. well yeah there said to be realeasing the awd max after skyline comes out so u have the option fast coupe or fast four door sports sedan (ill take both im greddy)
fragilewild
11-06-2003, 02:14 PM
I sure hope the latest skyline doesnt come to the united states.Then every mindless loser is going to go and buy one because the skyline was in the movies i think it should only be availible for the real nissan skyline gt-r r34-35 enthusists. i hate people who just go and buy cars to follow the crowd like the toyota supra the lancer and the eclipse they just jumped on the bandwagon!!!!!!
i dont think manufacturers would allow import THAT many units of gt-r R35.....but even if they did, not many would be able to afford them.....most would wait for the price to fall.....and even if people DID "follow" the crowd, im sure there will come out new models that will become something that "real enthusists" would be able to own....
i dont think manufacturers would allow import THAT many units of gt-r R35.....but even if they did, not many would be able to afford them.....most would wait for the price to fall.....and even if people DID "follow" the crowd, im sure there will come out new models that will become something that "real enthusists" would be able to own....
MachoCamacho
11-20-2003, 04:38 PM
Well, I don't think it should because then eveyone will get one, also I don't think they would do it, because they make a lot of money off importing it over
VQuick
11-20-2003, 06:24 PM
Well, I don't think it should because then eveyone will get one,
What???
It's not like the GT-R will be an everyday car. Nissan isn't making that many. There won't be tons of them on dealer lots. I personally would be surprised if Nissan/Infiniti dealers even had 10 of them on the lot at a time.
also I don't think they would do it, because they make a lot of money off importing it over
That doesn't have anything to do with it. The car would be tailored to the US market with LHD, and possibly even a different engine. Carlos Ghosn personally told Hiroshi Tamura, the GT-R product planner, to make global sales possible, especially the US.
What???
It's not like the GT-R will be an everyday car. Nissan isn't making that many. There won't be tons of them on dealer lots. I personally would be surprised if Nissan/Infiniti dealers even had 10 of them on the lot at a time.
also I don't think they would do it, because they make a lot of money off importing it over
That doesn't have anything to do with it. The car would be tailored to the US market with LHD, and possibly even a different engine. Carlos Ghosn personally told Hiroshi Tamura, the GT-R product planner, to make global sales possible, especially the US.
VQuick
01-18-2004, 07:57 PM
It's been three months since the last post!
People need to stop voting on this poll if they aren't going to post in it, too. :mad:
People need to stop voting on this poll if they aren't going to post in it, too. :mad:
CBXweb
01-20-2004, 08:08 PM
Well, I dont know if this would help, but I have this Nissan brochure for the 2003 model year, and they had a page of concepts, and it shows a picture of the concept GT-R and saying how its a world recognized sports car and crap. Now I dont think that nissan would "hold the meat above the lions" like that. I did hear from somewhere that the r35 GT-R is supposed to be built as a world car.
VQuick
01-21-2004, 07:38 PM
I did hear from somewhere that the r35 GT-R is supposed to be built as a world car.
That's correct. The FM platform spawned a whole new line of cars that were meant to be sold globally. The GT-R will be the same way.
That's correct. The FM platform spawned a whole new line of cars that were meant to be sold globally. The GT-R will be the same way.
ImportTunerR34
01-27-2004, 06:25 PM
The Skyline is the Infiniti G35(Skyline 350GT). The GTR is coming in 2007 as a 2008 model.
VQuick
02-02-2004, 04:32 PM
People need to stop voting on this poll if they aren't going to post in it, too. :mad:
Really, quit voting on the poll and bumping it up if you aren't going to post anything. This is getting stupid.
Really, quit voting on the poll and bumping it up if you aren't going to post anything. This is getting stupid.
VQuick
02-16-2004, 07:32 PM
People need to stop voting on this poll if they aren't going to post in it, too. :mad:
Really, quit voting on the poll and bumping it up if you aren't going to post anything. This is getting stupid.
Read this!
Really, quit voting on the poll and bumping it up if you aren't going to post anything. This is getting stupid.
Read this!
oi_boy
02-20-2004, 06:35 PM
there have been rumors since skylines comming to the US for the past 10 years (being sold here, not personally having it shipped here)........and it still hasnt happened. i doubt it will come to the US, more than likley going to have to import it.
thegladhatter
03-01-2004, 07:53 PM
Skyline will NOT be bringing a GTR to the States. They don't even produce them anymore. Nissan will be bringing the GTR to the States though. It will NOT be the same beast as in the past. Skyline has stated that they will NOT be retooling their assembly lines to manufacture LHD automobiles for export to the US.
GTES-t
03-01-2004, 09:25 PM
Ok, what you're saying makes no sense. Skyline in not a car manufacturer, it is a car model made by Nissan. So, Skyline has not stated anything, it's a car.
Nissan has retooled it entire manufacturing line with the new models, and the V35 Skyline (RHD) is available in the US as the LHD Infiniti G35. Infiniti is the 'over priced just for the US' luxury model rebadged Nissans.
When the new Skyline came out and then a couple of years later, the last GTR was produced in 2002, the Skyline 'beast' ended. Until the new GTR is produced (supposed to be in 2007) no one knows if it will be the next gen beast it should be, or a failed experiment like the V35. (Really the V35 wasn't a failure, it fit the Japanese market's needs/wants, which believe it or not the R34 was failing to reach.) Either way, it is supposed to be sent to the US and the rest of the world in RHD and LHD versions. (Depending on the driver's side of market it's sold in obviously)
Nissan has retooled it entire manufacturing line with the new models, and the V35 Skyline (RHD) is available in the US as the LHD Infiniti G35. Infiniti is the 'over priced just for the US' luxury model rebadged Nissans.
When the new Skyline came out and then a couple of years later, the last GTR was produced in 2002, the Skyline 'beast' ended. Until the new GTR is produced (supposed to be in 2007) no one knows if it will be the next gen beast it should be, or a failed experiment like the V35. (Really the V35 wasn't a failure, it fit the Japanese market's needs/wants, which believe it or not the R34 was failing to reach.) Either way, it is supposed to be sent to the US and the rest of the world in RHD and LHD versions. (Depending on the driver's side of market it's sold in obviously)
thegladhatter
03-02-2004, 12:04 AM
Chevrolet is made by GMotors, Lexus is made by Toyota....Skyline is made by Nissan. Its all the same. A Buick is NOT an Oldsmobile....an Infinity is NOT a Skyline. You will not see Skylines sold in the US by dealers.
GTES-t
03-02-2004, 05:04 AM
Did you fail your association part of your SATS!? Because using your first associations:
Chevrolet is made by GMotors, Lexus is made by Toyota...
Your assication should have been a car manufactures subdivision, so the answer would be:
Infiniti is made by Nissan
Not the answer you choose, which is a car made by Nissan.
Yes, the Skyline is sold by US dealers, it's the same car but not called/badged Skyline, it is the G35. Before you continue, check out Nissan Japan's site and take a look at the newest gen V35 Skyline, then check the Infiniti site and look at the G35. It is the same car other then one being RHD and the other LHD!
Chevrolet is made by GMotors, Lexus is made by Toyota...
Your assication should have been a car manufactures subdivision, so the answer would be:
Infiniti is made by Nissan
Not the answer you choose, which is a car made by Nissan.
Yes, the Skyline is sold by US dealers, it's the same car but not called/badged Skyline, it is the G35. Before you continue, check out Nissan Japan's site and take a look at the newest gen V35 Skyline, then check the Infiniti site and look at the G35. It is the same car other then one being RHD and the other LHD!
thegladhatter
03-02-2004, 05:22 AM
And you are also gonna be dumb enough to believe that a Nissan 240 is the SAME as a Nissan Silvia...
The Skyline GTR is no longer being made by Skyline. That is a fact. Skylines are NOT sold in the US. Skylines are RHD. They are NOT made as LHD....and they WONT be.
I don't take SATs I administer them.
The Skyline GTR is no longer being made by Skyline. That is a fact. Skylines are NOT sold in the US. Skylines are RHD. They are NOT made as LHD....and they WONT be.
I don't take SATs I administer them.
GTES-t
03-02-2004, 06:06 AM
And you are also gonna be dumb enough to believe that a Nissan 240 is the SAME as a Nissan Silvia...
I am smart enough to know that the US 240SX Coupe or Austrailian/European 200SX Coupe is the same body, suspension, etc. as the Silvia. The same holds true with the hatchback version being the same body etc. as the 180SX. However, the US didn't get the Silvia's front clip or engines or the 180SX's engines either. They are however, the same body codes (S13 or S14). So, you can say that they aren't the same because the US got the crappy truck engine and not very good looking coupe front end. But they are considered to be the same car because they share the same bodies and several other components.
The Skyline GTR is no longer being made by Skyline.
This should read:
The Skyline GTR is no longer made by NISSAN!
The GTR has been a high end model varient of the Skyline. Skyline is, again, a car, not a company. It would be like saying an EVO is made by Lancer.
Skylines are NOT sold in the US. Skylines are RHD. They are NOT made as LHD....and they WONT be.
The Skyline badges are not sold in the US. The car is and is LHD. It is the same body and engines.
I am smart enough to know that the US 240SX Coupe or Austrailian/European 200SX Coupe is the same body, suspension, etc. as the Silvia. The same holds true with the hatchback version being the same body etc. as the 180SX. However, the US didn't get the Silvia's front clip or engines or the 180SX's engines either. They are however, the same body codes (S13 or S14). So, you can say that they aren't the same because the US got the crappy truck engine and not very good looking coupe front end. But they are considered to be the same car because they share the same bodies and several other components.
The Skyline GTR is no longer being made by Skyline.
This should read:
The Skyline GTR is no longer made by NISSAN!
The GTR has been a high end model varient of the Skyline. Skyline is, again, a car, not a company. It would be like saying an EVO is made by Lancer.
Skylines are NOT sold in the US. Skylines are RHD. They are NOT made as LHD....and they WONT be.
The Skyline badges are not sold in the US. The car is and is LHD. It is the same body and engines.
VQuick
03-02-2004, 09:21 AM
Skyline will NOT be bringing a GTR to the States. They don't even produce them anymore.
Just out of curiosity, who is 'Skyline?' Is he Carlos Ghosn's boss or something? I ask this because Ghosn, the CEO of Nissan, has said that the GT-R will come to the US. Carlos Ghosn actually saw the GT-R fans in the US, and was impressed with their enthusiasm despite never having the car. Ghosn wanted to make sure that other countries, especially the US, would be able to get the next GT-R.
You are correct that the GT-R currently is not in production.
Nissan will be bringing the GTR to the States though. It will NOT be the same beast as in the past. Skyline has stated that they will NOT be retooling their assembly lines to manufacture LHD automobiles for export to the US.
The Skyline has been in the US two years now, in LHD form. It's called the Infiniti G35.
The 'R35' will be just fine. FYI, the product planner for the R35 GT-R, Hiroshi Tamura, was also responsible for the R34. Tamura should know for sure what will be needed to improve on the R34. He actually said that there will be a big leap over the R34, even bigger than the one Ferrari made from the 355 to 360, or Porsche from the 993 to 996.
The 'R35' GT-R will be a great performer, partly due to its FM platform roots. Car and Driver just tested the Infiniti G35(V35 Nissan Skyline) sedan again, and squeezed a .90 lateral G on the skidpad. It probably isn't too far from what the R34 GT-R was capable of...and the G35 is on the narrow track variant of the FM platform! In addition, either Best Motoring or Option tested a Skyline GT350 Coupe(Infiniti G35 Coupe), and found that it outslalomed the R34 GT-R. With this kind of performance as a starting point, the R35 GT-R should be plenty capable.
I don't take SATs I administer them.
If I ever have kids, they are not going to your school. :eek7:
Just out of curiosity, who is 'Skyline?' Is he Carlos Ghosn's boss or something? I ask this because Ghosn, the CEO of Nissan, has said that the GT-R will come to the US. Carlos Ghosn actually saw the GT-R fans in the US, and was impressed with their enthusiasm despite never having the car. Ghosn wanted to make sure that other countries, especially the US, would be able to get the next GT-R.
You are correct that the GT-R currently is not in production.
Nissan will be bringing the GTR to the States though. It will NOT be the same beast as in the past. Skyline has stated that they will NOT be retooling their assembly lines to manufacture LHD automobiles for export to the US.
The Skyline has been in the US two years now, in LHD form. It's called the Infiniti G35.
The 'R35' will be just fine. FYI, the product planner for the R35 GT-R, Hiroshi Tamura, was also responsible for the R34. Tamura should know for sure what will be needed to improve on the R34. He actually said that there will be a big leap over the R34, even bigger than the one Ferrari made from the 355 to 360, or Porsche from the 993 to 996.
The 'R35' GT-R will be a great performer, partly due to its FM platform roots. Car and Driver just tested the Infiniti G35(V35 Nissan Skyline) sedan again, and squeezed a .90 lateral G on the skidpad. It probably isn't too far from what the R34 GT-R was capable of...and the G35 is on the narrow track variant of the FM platform! In addition, either Best Motoring or Option tested a Skyline GT350 Coupe(Infiniti G35 Coupe), and found that it outslalomed the R34 GT-R. With this kind of performance as a starting point, the R35 GT-R should be plenty capable.
I don't take SATs I administer them.
If I ever have kids, they are not going to your school. :eek7:
thegladhatter
03-02-2004, 05:47 PM
I don't understand the personal vitriol.
GT-R WILL be coming to the United States!!! BUT IT IS NOT A SKYLINE!!!! Get that through your thick freaking skull!!!!
The Infiniti is an INFITNITI! It may have the same basic sheet metal, but it is NOT A SKYLINE!!!
I am done with this. You are obviously an idiot. You have difficulty with the simplest logic.
GT-R WILL be coming to the United States!!! BUT IT IS NOT A SKYLINE!!!! Get that through your thick freaking skull!!!!
The Infiniti is an INFITNITI! It may have the same basic sheet metal, but it is NOT A SKYLINE!!!
I am done with this. You are obviously an idiot. You have difficulty with the simplest logic.
thegladhatter
03-02-2004, 05:54 PM
Skyline is an arm of Nissan just like Chevrolet is an arm of GM. Skyline is to Nissan like Chevy is to GM. GM makes Chevy and Olds, and Buick etc. Nissan makes Skylines and Infiniti. An Infiniti is NOT a Skyline any more than a Buick is a Chevy .
VQuick
03-02-2004, 06:25 PM
I don't understand the personal vitriol.
GT-R WILL be coming to the United States!!! BUT IT IS NOT A SKYLINE!!!! Get that through your thick freaking skull!!!!
I think you need a time out. Either that, or calm down. Neither GTES-t nor I have said that the GT-R would be a Skyline. The closest we have to a Skyline are Infiniti's G35 sedan and coupe.
The Infiniti is an INFITNITI! It may have the same basic sheet metal, but it is NOT A SKYLINE!!!
Again, no one said the Infiniti G35 was a Skyline. However, they are pretty darn close. The G35 sedan would be pretty much the equivalent of the current Skyline GT350 sedan. The coupe variants have even less differences between them.
Skyline is an arm of Nissan just like Chevrolet is an arm of GM. Skyline is to Nissan like Chevy is to GM. GM makes Chevy and Olds, and Buick etc. Nissan makes Skylines and Infiniti. An Infiniti is NOT a Skyline any more than a Buick is a Chevy .
You obviously haven't been listening. Do I need to ask you for proof in order to make you see reason? What you say is basically tantamount to calling Corvette a brand, when it obviously is not.
Skyline is to Nissan like Impala is to Chevrolet. Nissan makes Nissan(duh) and Infiniti.
The Skyline is one particular model of Nissan, not a brand of Nissan.
You are obviously an idiot. You have difficulty with the simplest logic.
I could very well say the same to you, and actually have others agree with me as well.
Again, I'll ask you for proof that Skyline is an arm of Nissan. I'm sure everyone else here would like to learn how wrong they've been about the Nissan/Skyline relationship for the past few decades. :rolleyes:
GT-R WILL be coming to the United States!!! BUT IT IS NOT A SKYLINE!!!! Get that through your thick freaking skull!!!!
I think you need a time out. Either that, or calm down. Neither GTES-t nor I have said that the GT-R would be a Skyline. The closest we have to a Skyline are Infiniti's G35 sedan and coupe.
The Infiniti is an INFITNITI! It may have the same basic sheet metal, but it is NOT A SKYLINE!!!
Again, no one said the Infiniti G35 was a Skyline. However, they are pretty darn close. The G35 sedan would be pretty much the equivalent of the current Skyline GT350 sedan. The coupe variants have even less differences between them.
Skyline is an arm of Nissan just like Chevrolet is an arm of GM. Skyline is to Nissan like Chevy is to GM. GM makes Chevy and Olds, and Buick etc. Nissan makes Skylines and Infiniti. An Infiniti is NOT a Skyline any more than a Buick is a Chevy .
You obviously haven't been listening. Do I need to ask you for proof in order to make you see reason? What you say is basically tantamount to calling Corvette a brand, when it obviously is not.
Skyline is to Nissan like Impala is to Chevrolet. Nissan makes Nissan(duh) and Infiniti.
The Skyline is one particular model of Nissan, not a brand of Nissan.
You are obviously an idiot. You have difficulty with the simplest logic.
I could very well say the same to you, and actually have others agree with me as well.
Again, I'll ask you for proof that Skyline is an arm of Nissan. I'm sure everyone else here would like to learn how wrong they've been about the Nissan/Skyline relationship for the past few decades. :rolleyes:
thegladhatter
03-02-2004, 07:07 PM
Again, no one said the Infiniti G35 was a Skyline.
Posted by ImportTunerR34 - 01-27-2004 at 06:25 PM
The Skyline is the Infiniti G35(Skyline 350GT). The GTR is coming in 2007 as a 2008 model.
What you say is basically tantamount to calling Corvette a brand, when it obviously is not.
Skyline is to Nissan like Impala is to Chevrolet. Nissan makes Nissan(duh) and Infiniti.
The Skyline is one particular model of Nissan, not a brand of Nissan.
You are wrong, my friend. Skyline is to Nissan like Chevrolet is to GM. A GTR is to Skyline as Corvette is to Chevy. Now fuggoff.
Posted by ImportTunerR34 - 01-27-2004 at 06:25 PM
The Skyline is the Infiniti G35(Skyline 350GT). The GTR is coming in 2007 as a 2008 model.
What you say is basically tantamount to calling Corvette a brand, when it obviously is not.
Skyline is to Nissan like Impala is to Chevrolet. Nissan makes Nissan(duh) and Infiniti.
The Skyline is one particular model of Nissan, not a brand of Nissan.
You are wrong, my friend. Skyline is to Nissan like Chevrolet is to GM. A GTR is to Skyline as Corvette is to Chevy. Now fuggoff.
GTR_in_SF
03-02-2004, 08:15 PM
You are wrong, my friend. Skyline is to Nissan like Chevrolet is to GM. A GTR is to Skyline as Corvette is to Chevy. Now fuggoff.
Are you friggin' stupid or do you just know absolutely nothing about cars? :screwy:
The skyline is a model line made by Nissan... the GTR is the top trim level for the skyline model... :banghead:
Just like the 3 series is a model line made by BMW and the M3 is the top trim level for the 3 series...
If you want to use your Corvette example, it is made by GM/Chevy and the Z06 is the top trim level for the corvette...
Are you friggin' stupid or do you just know absolutely nothing about cars? :screwy:
The skyline is a model line made by Nissan... the GTR is the top trim level for the skyline model... :banghead:
Just like the 3 series is a model line made by BMW and the M3 is the top trim level for the 3 series...
If you want to use your Corvette example, it is made by GM/Chevy and the Z06 is the top trim level for the corvette...
GTES-t
03-02-2004, 08:31 PM
Gladhatter, Ok, if you want to continue to be ignorant, go ahead. Obviously you aren't learning anything from what we've said.
If you think that a Skyline badge on a car is what makes it a Skyline and therefore not the same car as a G35, you have a lot to learn. But, in that case I will gladly sell you a Skyline, after I install the badges on a used Honda POS.
The new Skyline and G35 are one in the same, if you don't believe me, look at what Nissan's said:
http://press.nissan-global.com/NEW_SKYLINE_COUPE/EN/pressrelease.html
This is their press release when the coupe version came out last year. As they themselves stated: "The car was launched earlier in North America last November as the Infiniti G35 Sport Coupe."
When the say "the car," they are talking about the Nissan Skyline Coupe. And if you look at when the US got it (Nov 02) compared to the release in Japan (Feb 03), the US got the coupes before they did!
Also, read their sales target:
Sales target of the Skyline Coupe:
16,500 units/year (North America and Japan)
That's pretty good for a car you're saying does not exist in the US!
Now about thinking "Skyline is an arm of Nissan," you have a lot of learning to do. Because what you are saying equates to saying this about your car listed in your profile: "Sileighty is an arm of Nissan."
Obviously trying to get it through to you that it's a car is pointless.
Take a look at Nissan's list of Japanese vehicles, you'll see that Skyline is a car, not a company:
http://www.nissan.co.jp/EN/lineup.html
If you think that a Skyline badge on a car is what makes it a Skyline and therefore not the same car as a G35, you have a lot to learn. But, in that case I will gladly sell you a Skyline, after I install the badges on a used Honda POS.
The new Skyline and G35 are one in the same, if you don't believe me, look at what Nissan's said:
http://press.nissan-global.com/NEW_SKYLINE_COUPE/EN/pressrelease.html
This is their press release when the coupe version came out last year. As they themselves stated: "The car was launched earlier in North America last November as the Infiniti G35 Sport Coupe."
When the say "the car," they are talking about the Nissan Skyline Coupe. And if you look at when the US got it (Nov 02) compared to the release in Japan (Feb 03), the US got the coupes before they did!
Also, read their sales target:
Sales target of the Skyline Coupe:
16,500 units/year (North America and Japan)
That's pretty good for a car you're saying does not exist in the US!
Now about thinking "Skyline is an arm of Nissan," you have a lot of learning to do. Because what you are saying equates to saying this about your car listed in your profile: "Sileighty is an arm of Nissan."
Obviously trying to get it through to you that it's a car is pointless.
Take a look at Nissan's list of Japanese vehicles, you'll see that Skyline is a car, not a company:
http://www.nissan.co.jp/EN/lineup.html
thegladhatter
03-03-2004, 12:16 AM
you are BOTH full of shiite!! I give up
Akisan2
03-03-2004, 02:48 PM
you are BOTH full of shiite!! I give up
wow
how in the world did you think that skyline is a um, COMPANY?
Nissan launched skyline at 1957 as a sedan, like any other car.
From there they continued to evolve and launched different models.
Put this in simple way, Skyline (like everyone's sayng) is a CAR LINEUP (like that of HONDA CIVIC) from NISSAN. (Thus NISSAN SKYLINE)
G35, Skyline V35 is the 11th gen Skyline as all others are stating.
Nissan = Infiniti, like Toyota=Lexus, Honda = Acura, I didn't think that people had difficulty understanding this. :eek7:
To summerize, Skyline is a CAR LINEUP MADE BY NISSAN, Skyliine is NOT A COMPANY. Skyline is made by nissan since almost 50 years ago, and now g35 is the 11th gen skyline.
Nissan lovers would be shocked to see likes of you for Skyline is true example of japanese automobile excellence. Nissan would have been in alot of trouble if Skyline wasn't there to give them the support, for while back, Skyline was the only car that gave them profit. (I think...nissan was in huge debt for while, now they are getting way better)
I guess you won't believe any of us and yeah what can we say? But these are facts so its up to you how you want to deal with it....
wow
how in the world did you think that skyline is a um, COMPANY?
Nissan launched skyline at 1957 as a sedan, like any other car.
From there they continued to evolve and launched different models.
Put this in simple way, Skyline (like everyone's sayng) is a CAR LINEUP (like that of HONDA CIVIC) from NISSAN. (Thus NISSAN SKYLINE)
G35, Skyline V35 is the 11th gen Skyline as all others are stating.
Nissan = Infiniti, like Toyota=Lexus, Honda = Acura, I didn't think that people had difficulty understanding this. :eek7:
To summerize, Skyline is a CAR LINEUP MADE BY NISSAN, Skyliine is NOT A COMPANY. Skyline is made by nissan since almost 50 years ago, and now g35 is the 11th gen skyline.
Nissan lovers would be shocked to see likes of you for Skyline is true example of japanese automobile excellence. Nissan would have been in alot of trouble if Skyline wasn't there to give them the support, for while back, Skyline was the only car that gave them profit. (I think...nissan was in huge debt for while, now they are getting way better)
I guess you won't believe any of us and yeah what can we say? But these are facts so its up to you how you want to deal with it....
thegladhatter
03-05-2004, 03:08 AM
Nissan BOUGHT the car company that originally made the Skyline in (I believe 1963). Prince Automobile Co. made Skylines from the early 50's. It was ALREADY an independent automobile company and became a BRANCH of Nissan in 1963.
GTES-t
03-05-2004, 05:34 AM
Yes, Prince motors, was a different company then Nissan. When Nissan bought them, however, it did not become a branch of Nissan.
Ever since they were bought by Nissan, they have been manufactured and sold by Nissan.
The only exception, is in the US, Canada and UAE, the newest generation of the Skyline (the V35 body) is sold by the luxury branch of Nissan, Infiniti, as the G35.
Ever since they were bought by Nissan, they have been manufactured and sold by Nissan.
The only exception, is in the US, Canada and UAE, the newest generation of the Skyline (the V35 body) is sold by the luxury branch of Nissan, Infiniti, as the G35.
VQuick
03-05-2004, 02:00 PM
Nissan BOUGHT the car company that originally made the Skyline in (I believe 1963). Prince Automobile Co. made Skylines from the early 50's. It was ALREADY an independent automobile company and became a BRANCH of Nissan in 1963.
Yes, Nissan bought Prince. However, the Prince name did not continue. The Prince Skyline became the Nissan Skyline.
If Skyline is the brand you claim it to be, what model lines does it offer? I'm sure it's a very diverse lineup. :rolleyes:
Yes, Nissan bought Prince. However, the Prince name did not continue. The Prince Skyline became the Nissan Skyline.
If Skyline is the brand you claim it to be, what model lines does it offer? I'm sure it's a very diverse lineup. :rolleyes:
oi_boy
03-07-2004, 02:18 PM
i thought prince and nissan both collaborated on making the skyline, right before nissan bought prince.
VQuick
03-07-2004, 08:05 PM
i thought prince and nissan both collaborated on making the skyline, right before nissan bought prince.
Maybe they did work on it together. I personally haven't heard anything about that before, but I guess it's a possiblility. Still, the Skyline started out as a Prince, and then became a Nissan after Prince was bought out.
Maybe they did work on it together. I personally haven't heard anything about that before, but I guess it's a possiblility. Still, the Skyline started out as a Prince, and then became a Nissan after Prince was bought out.
madhatter1
03-13-2004, 03:21 AM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
VQuick
03-20-2004, 11:28 AM
You register a new account after being banned, and that's all you have to say?
It's probably the smartest thing you've posted all along. :rolleyes:
It's probably the smartest thing you've posted all along. :rolleyes:
VQuick
03-22-2004, 09:56 PM
By the way, sending me those PMs sure sounded bright. I'm still waiting on that proof of yours that Skyline is a brand and not a model.
I'd sure like to see you prove just about everyone else in the world wrong.
Ever look at the bottom of the screen when you're at the forum? Notice how it says...
Automotive Forums .com > Nissan > Skyline
Again, Nissan is the brand, not Skyline.
I'd sure like to see you prove just about everyone else in the world wrong.
Ever look at the bottom of the screen when you're at the forum? Notice how it says...
Automotive Forums .com > Nissan > Skyline
Again, Nissan is the brand, not Skyline.
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