5 Star Shine

Hi...
This site is loaded with advertising from 5 Star Shine, yet no-one has even tried it? I agree that all products are not good...But I never agree with people who just stick with one type of product and never entertain the idea that something else out there may be as good or better. Now, those that run detailing shops....some of them I can appreciate are happy with what they are using, but that does not make it the best product for the average user who only wants to do a good job on their own vehicle. The person who runs a detailing shop in my area says anything you buy at the counter from stores is usually junk... ( He has his own mixture for what he does) and honestly... it is great....But I will never be convinced it is the best stuff in the world.

I am only trying to keep an open mind. Every industry in the world changes and grows. Many products that were to good to be true years ago, now set the standards or have even been surpased in many industries. Why not Wax products? For every review of every product I have found on here... There are both Good... and bad.... Strange how the same product is magic in one persons hands and garbage in anothers.

I suspect my post will not be overly popular with those set in their ways, yet the funny thing is we are all typing on a box which would have seemed so outrageous only a few short years ago. I guess progress only happens when the Big players tell us its time to move on..... thus windows 3.1 windows 95...... 98..... ect.....

Even The DWG....Waterless Carwash.... I have never tried it, yet to simply say it is junk seems extremely niave. Have the people on here who have their own detailing shops tried it so they can PROVE that it harms the paints?

I guess I just find it disappointing that with so many knowledgable people little though is often given to other peoples ideas and questions.Thank god we are not still trying to learn how to fly... as I recall most people on this once though flat earth who feared the sirens in the seas, believed it is impossible. Think I will make a call to United Air and see......lol

Hello Shadows in the Dark,
You hit the nail on the head about people being set in their ways. My experience in the vehicle care business (detailing) going on thirty years has seen a lot of ding-a-lings and I've seen a lot on other forums. To start out with the basics of care products, one are classified as consumer quality and the other professional quality-Bunk. You mentioned DWG products and on other forums I've offered a $1000.00 bounty for anyone using these products can show me any damage done by proper usage. These products are ahead of their time and some may say pricey. Lets look at numbers, an 8oz bottle of DWG, Dri Wash n' Guard is $20.00, it takes approx 2ounces for an average car, thats $5.00 to apply a polish/sealer that will last approx six months. How cheap do people expect a good product to be. I've been a DWG distr for three years now and this product has revolutionized the industry. This product will leave all others in the dust and it will become a household name. As for the towels you spoke of in the other thread. I think they are the micro-fiber, go to www.allrags.com, they produce the micro-fiber towels in this country. www.galaxylane.org.

I still cannot believe that with all the knowledgable folks on this board that nobody else has replied to any of my questions? Maybe no-one is willing to answer a question that makes them wonder if there are other avenues for car detailing? I figured before I order the products, I would find other people who have tried and get some input.

Come on everyone. Someone must be able to admit that they have looked at these and other products? Geeeez... I was just at a car show and I must have seen hundreds of people trying a product called Aura or something like that.

I posted on another thread on this site and said that I have tried 5 star shine. In the limited amount of time I have had it on my car it has done what it says. I just wash my car with a wash mitt and plain water. The dirt comes off like a dry erase marker..It has been remarkable.. Here's the thread where I got some info. There are some 60 replies and 1000+ views.....



http://nicoclub.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37036

On one hand chadster guy says:

No re-waxing or re-sealing needed. And yes, 5 Star gets rid of minor scratches and swirl marks too.

And then later on he states:
5 Star Shine contains NO ABRASIVES.

Which is it? Does the product just hide the imperfections with fillers? Or does 5-Star actually contain abrasives to remove the swirl marks? Isn't teflon a solid and sold in flake form in different sizes? How much teflon is actually in the product? Even the best sealents require periodic reapplication. Nothing lasts forever. It would seem to me that the initial "polarizing wash" step where you leave the solution on your paint for 10-15 minutes for it to air dry before rinsing off, would leave water spots. No mention of what effect the solution has on your trim, plastic, or glass.

On their website it states:
It is safe to use 5 STAR SHINE on all glass, chrome and plastic plastic parts. 5 Star Shine protects all types of clear coats, fiberglass and gel coat surfaces as well. We DO NOT recommend you use it on rubber & vinyl body parts or trim as it's not designed to protect these porous surfaces

Also the website video touts "sheeting action" but the website description states and pictures posted show "water beading". Which is it?

Does the "polarizing wash solution" etch the paint in some way so the teflon will "stick or bond"? There are only 2 ways that I know of to for bonding teflon, either under high heat or chemical bonding. If you get any of it on your trim, will it stain it? The shine on the cars treated with 5-Star do not impress me very much. It's a clean look but not very reflective, deep, or wet looking. My neighbor purchased the 5-Star system and I was surprised at the small sample sized bottles it came in. For the $50-100 asking price, there are many other excellent products to choose from.

Hey sci fi. I had similar questions and the people at 5 Star first started out by saying to check out the patent to get some background on the product since it is pretty good at explaining the whole process. Here's something chadster wrote as far as reading the patent from the nico site.

(quote)
NOTE:
Don't be confused, in the paragraph "BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION" it describes a DIFFERENT PATENT (4,284,668 ). 5 Star remedies and eliminates the "buffing" which can damage paint that the other patent needs in order to achieve effect. 5 Star Shine contains NO ABRASIVES.
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...1&RS=PN/5081171[/url]
(end quote)

The polarizing solution doesn't harm the trim or glass or etch. On rubber trim, you don't put wax on the rubber trim. It will come off, but takes a bit of elbow grease. Those pictures I think are from a car just being washed etc for 3 months, other waxes etc don't look that good after 2 weeks. The hood is angled, so the water sheets off, it beads where it stays put as on the roof.

I was able to do 2 cars with the kit (just use half of the polar wash and use the protectant sparingly as stated.) Based on the price if it even lasts 2 years it is $ well spent. I have detailed cars since high school and wanted to give props to an unknown product that I think works great...

I posted on another thread on this site and said that I have tried 5 star shine. In the limited amount of time I have had it on my car it has done what it says. I just wash my car with a wash mitt and plain water. The dirt comes off like a dry erase marker..It has been remarkable.. Here's the thread where I got some info. There are some 60 replies and 1000+ views.....



http://nicoclub.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37036


OMG This guy is unbelieveable!! dropline aka Chadster and numerous other usernames on that thread has been kicked off a few forums for spamming 5 star shine under alais names and it looks like he is doing it again here. Don't believe this crook.

Lotsa independent reviews....


http://nicoclub.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45700

http://nicoclub.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44819

http://nicoclub.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48193

use 'VIPDISCOUNTS' as a discount customer code

whoops! i just posted an inquiry about this same polish! i didn't see this one. anyway, i just used it this weekend & it produces a really slick, nice shine, but so does the polish i've used for many years--liquid glass. i never seen a product that claims to last 5 years & through 150 washes. i'm very sceptical right now. it's very expensive too & you only get just enough for 1 car. i'll post updates here after a while after i see how durable it really is. i know that it's "patented" but so were those electronic rust control devices that were proved to be bogus. you have to re-apply even the best sealants periodically, & i can't imagine anything lasting that long....

if you want to find out more about other detailing products available check out www.detailcity.com (http://www.detailcity.com/). they are just a forum like this, but all about detailing and you can get lots of info

Eric

Hi...
This site is loaded with advertising from 5 Star Shine, yet no-one has even tried it? I agree that all products are not good...But I never agree with people who just stick with one type of product and never entertain the idea that something else out there may be as good or better. Now, those that run detailing shops....some of them I can appreciate are happy with what they are using, but that does not make it the best product for the average user who only wants to do a good job on their own vehicle. The person who runs a detailing shop in my area says anything you buy at the counter from stores is usually junk... ( He has his own mixture for what he does) and honestly... it is great....But I will never be convinced it is the best stuff in the world.

I am only trying to keep an open mind. Every industry in the world changes and grows. Many products that were to good to be true years ago, now set the standards or have even been surpased in many industries. Why not Wax products? For every review of every product I have found on here... There are both Good... and bad.... Strange how the same product is magic in one persons hands and garbage in anothers.

I suspect my post will not be overly popular with those set in their ways, yet the funny thing is we are all typing on a box which would have seemed so outrageous only a few short years ago. I guess progress only happens when the Big players tell us its time to move on..... thus windows 3.1 windows 95...... 98..... ect.....

Even The DWG....Waterless Carwash.... I have never tried it, yet to simply say it is junk seems extremely niave. Have the people on here who have their own detailing shops tried it so they can PROVE that it harms the paints?

I guess I just find it disappointing that with so many knowledgable people little though is often given to other peoples ideas and questions.Thank god we are not still trying to learn how to fly... as I recall most people on this once though flat earth who feared the sirens in the seas, believed it is impossible. Think I will make a call to United Air and see......lol
see my 5-star shine update posting in my thread "liquid glass ultimate polish"

http://honda-acura.net/forums/showthread.php?t=149760

http://forums.clubsi.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB44&Number=4392413

Hi I am new to your forum but I am an old dog who loves new tricks and 5 star shine is one of them.

I have just 6 cars that I take care of (I own 3) and by far the hardest to take care of is my daily drive (32000 KMs in under 12 month.) my Mitsubishi Triton Dual cab Turbo Diesel Utility (Truck). It is a City/Farm vehicle and in the first week it did more off road, through creeks and over boulder driving than it did tarmac.

I have used 5 star shine for 3 years now on other vehicles and naturally I used it on the Triton.

I dont go with the story that it removes scratches minor or other. It does remove stuborn dirt in the application phase but it is a good idea to get as much off as you can.

Aplication is a pain and you should follow the aplication instructions to the letter but the pain is worth it. There are no streaks or marks due to the application and the finish is a deep impenetrable shine.

I don't know if you have ever had a fruit bat drop a message on your car but if you leave it for a couple of days it almost removes your paint as well but with 5 star shine leave it till it rains and the crap just washes off by itself. Road grime will eventually accumulate but a quick wash will remove everything including hot tar spots from road works and anything except for stone chips. (Mirracles but not the impossible.)

Before you ask I get nothing for this, I am not affiliated and I think their delivery charges are a rip off but their product is supperb.

Feel free to email me if you have questions though with the farm it may be a few days before I answer.

I have seen this debate often.
The 5 star product may be a good product, I don't know.
The idea that you could go five years without any additional protection makes me back away from it.
Thats too hard to swallow.
I think if they had instead gave their product a 5 year guarantee and encouraged you to protect the coating it would be more sellable.
Common sense dictactes that anything exposed to the elements will weather and if it's moving it will be exposed to friction and road grime.
Now maybe if you don't care what the car looks like in five years that would be ok but if that is the case why use the stuff in the first place?
5 stars biggest problem is poor marketing.
Cost is not a factor when you want something, so the cost is not an issue for everybody.
The problem is that the product falls out of the rhelm of acceptable reality with the claim of 5 year with no additional protection.
If they had came up with a support product to maintain the coating it would be more believable.
I agree that new products are making improvements and there are better choices.
This whole thread is more of a sales pitch for 5 Star and honestly it looks as if it is the effort of one poster.
This is fairly obivious by the low post numbers of the posters who are praising the product.
That is red flag that the product does not have the popular endorsement indicated in this post.

I don't know of anyone who actually used that stuff but it would be nice to have an unbiased view on five star shine from a real customer. Its hard to believe anything as delicute as the shine on a car could last 5 years.
I would think that factors such as location, use, environment, garage or not and individual maintenance would create too many variables.