Supra vs Skyline

Which is faster a supra fully modified or a skyline fully modified, I mean the works everthing you could possible do to improve their speed. Which would be faster?

pointless thread ..

this has been asked many many times before..
and you have to be more spefic... what do you mean by faster.. do you mean e.t. times of road racing.. street legal or race car??

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ok lets look at the stats here




93 toyota supra
1/4 mile: 13.5
0-60: 5.0
0-100: 11.8
top speed: 155.0 mph

99 skyline r34 gtr
1/4 mile: 13.7
0-60: 5.2
0-100: 13.7
top speed: 155.0 mph

quite simply me munchkins SUPRA :bigthumb:

Turbo2nr is rite. this thread leads to no where. I really think the Sky GTR34 would win 1/4 mile, Supra gots the Topspeed, i c it this way

GTR34
1300 HP, lightweighted, best of every modded part.
0-60: 1.3xx sec
0-100: 4.2xx sec
1/4: 7.xxx sec
Top speed: 26x.xxx mph

Supra TT
1300 HP lightweighted, etc...
0-60: 2.xxx sec
0-100: 4.xxx sec
Top Speed: 270 mph

this is my way of seeing it

that's all well but noone is considerin the driver if one driver is better then they wud probably win if the cars were so equally matched. as i sed in my previous post i thought the supra wud win purely through the reputation of modded supras but by the looks of modded skylines like the one in 2 fast 2 furious they are QUICK. if ure stats are right it wud be a clse race!

well well well you can t go anywhere without this question popping up. given all things equal in a 1/4 mile race the cars are equal. think about it. the skyline is normally a rwd til the car detects slip then it begins the give just enough power to the front tires so that the rear tires grip. so if both cars have slicks on, the skylines awd would be more of a downfall than a benefit. the drivetrain after the first 20ft will just be a drag on the motor. diminishing hp and tq by just a lil bit. but the supra has no such loss. so it actually would produce slightly more power pushng it faster to make up for the loss off the line. this is why 1000+hp supras and skylines run damn near the same ET's. this is also the reason that the supra has a better top end. along with slightly longer gears the engine doesnt have anything holding it back. once the skyline is off the line the awd factor is useless.

ok, I own a 94 TT Supra, after seeing what both cars will do, and you can if you ever go to Japan. The skyline will completely eat a supra for major reasons. 1 AWD (If you don't know what that means you need to be shot) 2. The fastest of ethier cars uses the others motor 3. Japanese specs for safety on their cars is much more lenient than the US so you do the math, top speed is a question, but 1/4 mile the skyline will kill a supra, use common sense.

I'm from the Middle east and we have both GTRs and Supras. supras are faster that the GTR ........ check this out.. www.toprpm.com . the dark blue supra was my brother's car, and he was driving at that race. then he sold it.

I'm from the Middle east and we have both GTRs and Supras. supras are faster that the GTR ........ check this out.. www.toprpm.com . the dark blue supra was my brother's car, and he was driving at that race. then he sold it.
dude...NICE vids man...i saw them too. but its how you race your car...not how u stand by your car! hahahaha

well i think would be a good road race match up would be a stock 1998 r34 gtr v-spec vs a stock 1997 supra rz, well just for kicks

at the start the skyline would jump because of AWD but later on at about 1/8th mile the supra would catch back up and beat him because awd while rolling is nothing but dead weight thats what i think would happen but until skylines come to the US of A and start beating supras i will say the supra is faster lol

It has allways been my oppinion that a Skyline is a respectable drag car, but because of the all wheel drive it is more likley to domminate the scene in a road race type setting, and not so much in the 1/4 mile. Ryan

Well considering that it depends on the race, an all out race, the skyline is going to win and I'll tell you why. Being a fully modded car means also taking stuff off, or out of the car. When doing your research, you'll notice that the fastest supra (and I mean all out not a 1/4 mile) in the world has a (skyline)RB26DETT motor in it. and the fastest Skyline in the world is not AWD for the very reason of weight. It has a (Supra) 2JZ-GTE motor in it. And the Fastest RX-7 in the world also has a supra motor in it as well. being a completely modded to the teeth and every possible thing you can do, it's going to be a skyline.

is it just me or are these questions about which one will win is stupid. too many questions about supra and skyline has been asked and no one agrees on the answer. i am not certain but it seems like flyingmkiv knows his cars so i would say the skyline would win.

From what I seen and know the Supra would win. At first its gonna look like the Skyline will win, but later on the Supra would catch up and spank it. The Skyline is heavy, and so is the Supra, but the Skyline weighs even more. The Skyline isnt using its AWD on the race (exept for launch) so the extra pounds is gonna be a waste. This is in a straight line, like in the 1/4 or on the freeway. The Skyline would rtake the Supra on a track though, but thats because of better handling and the ATTESSA ETS PRO. When modded Supras can make CRAZY numbers, and so can Skylines, but usually I see the Supras making higher numbers. I've seen way more Supras beat Skylines on vids. I'm very suprised not everybody said the Skyline woulld win. Whenever I say a Supra can beat the Skyline in the straight people cant handle the fact that the very overhyped and bastardised Skyline isnt the car to end all cars.

Now I MAY be over-looking something here...but why in the hell are Skylines putting Supra engines in and vica-versa?!?!?! What does one side think the other engine is faster/more capable, and the other thinks the same?? I think that is complete ass-nine, and someone PLEASE explain. If you like the Skyline engine, get a skyline. Like Spras engine, getta supra!

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When people do engine swaps like then it may be for a number of reasons. Maybe they like, the RB26DETT engine, but like the Supra looks better. Or maybe they want attention like Top Secret. Who knows. I like the power of Supra engines, cause once those cars go, they are GONE. And from what I know the 2JZ-GTE engines are easier modded. But suspension, and computers wise, the Skyline is more advanced. Put it like this. The Skyline is more of a track car, and Supra is more of a drag or top speed car.

stock for stock a 94 vspecii will spank a mkiv tt 6spd. weighs in at a little over 3100 . and lately ive seen them run very very low(like practically flat) 13's stock at tracks(including stock tires).

but what if it wasn't a gt-r just a gts thats FR too and it has a rb25det

Depends children...

Hks r33 GTR hmm fastest skyline to date I think runs low 8's an possiblys sevens.

Power u guys want veilside duh. Street drag bnr34 ran 1668 hp! on the dyno How ever they re veilside supra is fast as well but the rb's are still my fave ask for the future as I so heard from V quicky the Vq (skyline engine for all you supra enthusiasts) has a supposed maxd compasityof 1500 hp. So supra people have fun tryn to match best supra to date have to say JUN.

but what if it wasn't a gt-r just a gts thats FR too and it has a rb25det
why would you buy a skyline that isnt a gtr? doesnt make sense to me. but stock for stock them the mkiv would win against a gtst

How about a GTR with this engine? http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/649000_0130.JPG
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/649000_0126.JPG

In this car? http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/649gtrblue.jpg

This car should weigh about 2900 with me in it. The engine will put out clost to 700/700 at 6500rpms. My ony limiting factor is the suspension, that is why I am here. What mods do the Supras do to get them to launch?

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/649Fit-med.JPG

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/649fit2-med.JPG

Hate to burst your bubble guys but the fastest full weight street legal supra is faster then the fastest full weight street legal gtr. I see all you guys talking about AWD WILL HELP IT WIN IN A STRAIGHT LINE. At high power levels this is not true. If anything it'd give the car a disadvantage. As for power figures 1600 is an average "HUGE HORSEPOWER" supra. Marko in the states is making something like 2100Hp. Round a track its also pretty even but gtrs definetly have the edge. The fastest supra in the world does not have a rb26 in it. People do engine swaps because they get bored following trends. Top secret swapped their supra to a rb26 because the 2jz was reknowned for its huge torque, which they complain was shredding their tyres *shrugs*. In 98 i think it was they had a 3sgte in their supra *shrugs again*. So the answer, 1/4mile or highway a supra will blow the doors off a gtr. On the track id give the win to the skyline, although it can be VERY close with the right suspension setup on your soop ;)

I like both don't know what to say but i definately preffer the Supra.

Hate to burst your bubble guys but the fastest full weight street legal supra is faster then the fastest full weight street legal gtr. I see all you guys talking about AWD WILL HELP IT WIN IN A STRAIGHT LINE. At high power levels this is not true. If anything it'd give the car a disadvantage. As for power figures 1600 is an average "HUGE HORSEPOWER" supra. Marko in the states is making something like 2100Hp. Round a track its also pretty even but gtrs definetly have the edge. The fastest supra in the world does not have a rb26 in it. People do engine swaps because they get bored following trends. Top secret swapped their supra to a rb26 because the 2jz was reknowned for its huge torque, which they complain was shredding their tyres *shrugs*. In 98 i think it was they had a 3sgte in their supra *shrugs again*. So the answer, 1/4mile or highway a supra will blow the doors off a gtr. On the track id give the win to the skyline, although it can be VERY close with the right suspension setup on your soop ;)

I was just going to reply to the earlier comment regarding smoky Nagata-san's Supra. Both the RB26 and @jz have its ups and downs. Before we all go into how much 2093092039 hp an engine can produce the car has to be able to run the times. I have 97 Bpu+ supra 6spd. I love the car but to be honest the U.s. Spec supras are faster than the JDM ones. And if you search the long lines of Gtr's in Japan they will pwn the Supras day and night. GTR's have a long line of heritage so the tuners over there choose the RB over the 2JZ. A supra making 1600 bhp compared to a 1600 bhp r34 is not going to equal because the skyline is putting that power down on all 4 wheels. I recently asked a shop owner of car accessories (who is japanese and was in the car schene while living in Japan) about Supras in Japan and his answer was that the Supras are barely noticed. Most fast 1/4 or mile runs are won by streetable GTR's. I believe I seen some in the 7's. Titanmotorsports (or one of the more popular tuners in U.s.) recently hit a low seven mark. The difference here is that there are more GTR's that can do it and they are owned by regular salary men and not just shop cars.

The skyline not being sold here really helped show what the supra can do.
Put some usa supra tt against jdm gtrs in the 1/4 supra almost ever time

It's hard to compare two cars that were never meant to be compared. They're completely different from one another. One has an all wheel drive set up, that is if it's a gtr, and a 2.6l twin turbo. The other is rwd and has a 3.0l twin turbo. That's almost half a litre difference. Either one can be faster than the other depending on the car's weight, wheel horsepower, and the driver. i don't believe one car can ever be "fully modded". Then what is the race? Top end? 1/8 mi? 1/4mi? Race course? I think the best comparison could be made between an R33 series 2 gts with an RB26DETT swap and a MKIV Supra with a 1JZ-GTTE. Although the GTS Skyline never came stock with an RB26 and a MKIV never came stock with a 1JZ. Almost direct comparison though: Both rear wheel drive with lsd, roughly same weight, series 2 r33 came around in 1996-1999, around the last days of the US having the Supra, and finally the skyline having a 2.6L TT and the Supra with a 2.5L TT. Point 1 L difference is much better than .4. Although the Series two came with a 2.5L stock on most occasions(rarely a 2.0 inline 6), it's a single turbo. So from a dig to the top end, completely stock, supra would most likely jump the line, skyline would lead up to around 120 or, and then the Supra would take top end.

first of all, the purpose of the skyline was to mash your brain through the corners. It was made as a car that can turn well and set lap times. The supra wasnt. I have nothing against the supra, but compared to the skyline its no competition. yea it might go faster in a straight line but once the bends come it will be passed for good. and its not that hard to make a car fast on a straight line if you have the money, hell, you can make a pick up run ridiculously fast times on the quarter. to me the cars are in a different league, the skyline is made for the hardcore, while the supra was made for, well going in a straight line i guess. The supra is one of those cars that is on its own, the skylines and nsx's are in the business of cornering and lap performance while another maybe close competitor the 300zx or vr-4 are in a separate category because they are way cheaper and dont really compare to a supra that much( however a 300zx TT modded with some love can spank any car out there). there is no real comparison between the supra and skyline because they were made to do different thing.