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kenwindon
01-01-2001, 01:37 PM
you lot have got to be having a bloody laugh, have you looked at youselves recently?

i thought we produced some crap,w.p rover. jaguar, (worse now owned by g.m) m.g, etc etc, but you yanks have the most dog awful selection of crooked metal on earth!

i laugh my nits off whenever i sit and watch starskey and hutch for example, if you want to look at proper cars, you need to get ouy a video called 'the professionals', they have proper cars.

the dukes of hazard - i rest my case

i look at bent/crashed cars in the u.k for a living, and they all look better than your models do new.

thank god they never caught on in the u.k, there's no room for them on our roads, we'd probably only get three or four on our tiny little island at a time!

then i must move on to 'dragsters', i know the 'scrap heap challenge' has invaded your shores, but you guys go racing in things they made on the show, and in a straightt line, then you take out formula 1, a good sport, and buy all the old crappers from last season and make it straighter and more boring, the only lively bit being when someone hits a wal at 220 mph

cars should not be allowed in the states

they should be taken away from you all, and you should all have push bikes - without v8's

what do you think about brit cars?

i'd love to know.

igor@af
01-01-2001, 01:48 PM
i kinda agree with ya.
a lot [not all] of american cars are just huge piece of steel with a huge pushrod or ohv engine. No touch or feel to it.
On the other hand, most British cars have their own personality and are very appealing to look at.
This Cooper for example.
http://a332.g.akamai.net/7/332/936/0001/www.edmunds.com/edweb/reed/mini.cooper/media/mini_front.350.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/7/332/936/0001/www.edmunds.com/edweb/reed/mini.cooper/media/mini.profile.350.jpg

i'd say that generally, my favorite cars are Japanese, because I lived there and really know a lot about them. Then the European guns. And then the Americans. But I have to tell ya, that there are some awesome American cars like the new Corvette Z06 and Viper GTS-R (which supposedly will come out pretty soon...) Also, a lot of people may not know this, but the Lightning F-150 is faster than a Mustang! Ford just under rates it because they want to keep Mustang as their Symbol.

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igor@af
01-01-2001, 01:50 PM
And no, I will not delete all the American makes :D

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LostBoyScout
01-14-2001, 09:50 PM
Bahahahahaha.. I can't diagree, I don't care for american cars either, but man, you're pretty harsh

Acceleration per dollar, an american car will whoop anything you can come up with's ass - in every other aspect, imports win - be it european or japanese.

Personally, weight and chassis design is everything. Power is something you can develop after. Give me something with well designed suspension that weights less than 2600lbs and you've got what I consider to be a "true sports car", even if it has less than 150hp! Americans are good at building "Musclecars".. they can't built a sportscar whatsoever

HeadBanger
01-16-2001, 11:30 AM
kenwindon. Alright, you want an opinion, I'll give you a bloody opinion.. First of all, you need to learn where the SHIFT keys are on the keyboard and start using them. People won't think your posts are that much of a joke if you use some half decent English, come on chief, it looks terrible!!!

There are some great non-American car companies that produce some top shelf cars, BMW, Mercedes, Acura to name a few. And there are some American cars that probably shouldn't have ever been made. However you are pretty nasty in your comments but since you do look at bent/crashed cars, I guess that makes you an expert..

I don't know a great deal about British cars, don't care to either..at least not until they are made to drive on the right side of the road.. But I will say that I've owned American all of my life and have no regrets.. I agree with igor, and can assure you that there is not one Brit car that can compare to a Z06 or a Viper.. True American Muscle..

GWH
01-16-2001, 12:59 PM
Ken,
Well it's obvious that your trying to incite a flame war, which I'm not going to partake in. I do however, find it interesting that you site references from 70s & 80s television. Where have you been? Oh, and a GM doesn't own Jaguar;) since an American car company owns a British company, I would say that is a step-up:)

Lizard King
02-11-2001, 09:28 AM
Jokes like Kenwindon are what makes me hate being British.

You talk about The Professionals, didn't that have a Ford Capri? The Capri was Ford of Europes attempt at a Mustang. By comparison it looks ugly and is much slower. Shows like The Professionals are just copies of American shows. British cars of the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s were like little, slow copies of American cars. You only have to look at the Vauxhalls and Fords of the times.

American styling was the best (and stil can be IMO) and most influential. Their cars were big and beautiful, with effortless power. Look at cars like the 59 Cadillac (or any Cadillac for that matter) They were standard of the world cars, dream cars, full of character when Britain was driving around in dumpy little Ford Anglias with all the personality of a church pew.

And F1. Don't get me started on F1. I think, when you said: "buy all the old crappers from last season and make it straighter and more boring, the only lively bit being when someone hits a wal at 220 mph" you meant CART or Indycar. (That sentence was so full of ignorance I don't know where to start)

F1 is blown away by these sports when it comes to excitment. F1 cars are just 200mph adverts, theres no variety. American motorsports like CART have close battles for the flag, not one driver, well out in front. You might as well stop watching after the first few laps, uless you enjoy watching a single car going around a track.

And to say that American cars are crap because they're too big is pathetic. They were made for large roads, not the narrow, shitty roads we have in England. To use that as an argument is like saying the QE2 is a crap ship because it can't navigate the Thames river.

You ignorant freakin embarrasment.
Get a clue.


(They call it stress release:)

[Edited by NCMR8CMan@af on 02-12-2001 at 05:10 PM]

GWH
02-11-2001, 11:20 AM
:D

speedlimit250
02-11-2001, 02:10 PM
This is a joke, right? C'mon, I would never by a Japanese car because they do not have any personality. European cars, well they are waaaay to overpriced. Just look at the Trans Am WS6, Firehawk, Vette C5, Z06, Viper GTS, Camaro SS, Grand Prix GTP, Grand Am GT, Bonneville, Aurora, Mustang, Lightning, Caddy STS, Impala etc. Great styling and a lot of bang for the buck. Gimme a Firehawk over your shoe-box M3 anyday!:D

enzo@af
02-11-2001, 05:55 PM
Kenwindon....are you...stupid, or just retarded?

Just curious.

kepone
02-12-2001, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by Lizard King
Jokes like Kenwindon are what makes me hate being British.

You talk about The Professionals, didn't that have a Ford Capri? The Capri was Ford of Europes attempt at a Mustang. By comparison it looks ugly and is much slower. Shows like The Professionals are just copies of American shows. British cars of the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s were like little, slow copies of American cars. You only have to look at the Vauxhalls and Fords of the times.

American styling was the best (and stil can be IMO) and most influential. Their cars were big and beautiful, with effortless power. Look at cars like the 59 Cadillac (or any Cadillac for that matter) They were standard of the world cars, dream cars, full of character when Britain was driving around in dumpy little Ford Anglias with all the personality of a church pew.

And F1. Don't get me started on F1. I think, when you said: "buy all the old crappers from last season and make it straighter and more boring, the only lively bit being when someone hits a wal at 220 mph" you meant CART or Indycar. (That sentence was so full of ignorance I don't know where to start)

F1 is blown away by these sports when it comes to excitment. F1 cars are just 200mph adverts, theres no variety. American motorsports like CART have close battles for the flag, not one driver, well out in front. You might as well stop watching after the first few laps, uless you enjoy watching a single car going around a track.

And to say that American cars are crap because they're too big is pathetic. They were made for large roads, not the narrow, shitty roads we have in England. To use that as an argument is like saying the QE2 is a crap ship because it can't navigate the Thames river.

You ignorant fucking embarrasment.
Get a clue.


(They call it stress release:)

this guy pretty much said it all..

MikAnchovy
02-12-2001, 04:58 PM
Good post Lizard King/Winston

But when it comes down to it, it's really just different strokes for different folks. I like my Japanese car very much, and wouldn't trade it for a comparable American car at this point in my life. Certain cars will always meet certain needs better than others, no matter where they come from.

Bean Bandit
02-13-2001, 05:18 AM
I like the design of the old muscle cars it's awesome I mean just look at the GT 500, Cuda, Stingrays or Pontiac GTO not to speak of the real old cars (pre '50s) they are what I call a cruiser.

ThunderFish911
02-13-2001, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by enzo@af
Kenwindon....are you...stupid, or just retarded?

Just curious. [/QUOTE]

Both, probably. I thought when I came here I'd be leaving the bigoted cocksuckers like turbosupra1 and Xtreme Integra Type-R. Guess not.

Originally posted by kenwindon
you yanks have the most dog awful selection of crooked metal on earth!

Hmmmm... brings to mind these kinds of fuck-ugly cars.

http://www.uglycars.co.uk/citroends2.jpghttp://www.uglycars.co.uk/2cv.jpghttp://www.uglycars.co.uk/ami8.jpghttp://www.uglycars.co.uk/robin.jpg
http://www.uglycars.co.uk/anglia.jpghttp://www.uglycars.co.uk/ren4.jpghttp://www.uglycars.co.uk/saab.jpghttp://www.uglycars.co.uk/frogeye.jpg
http://www.uglycars.co.uk/nsu.jpghttp://www.uglycars.co.uk/multipla.jpghttp://www.uglycars.co.uk/isetta.jpghttp://www.uglycars.co.uk/m3coupe.jpg
http://www.uglycars.co.uk/pug806.jpghttp://www.uglycars.co.uk/scorpio2.jpghttp://www.uglycars.co.uk/skoda.jpghttp://www.uglycars.co.uk/princess3.jpg

And you call our cars "crappers"? Don't get me wrong, there are some very nice-looking European cars out there, all I'm saying is that both regions have their faults and you shouldn't be such a god damn bigot.

[Edited by ThunderFish911 on 02-13-2001 at 03:26 PM]

Lizard King
02-13-2001, 02:02 PM
LMAO nice post. :D

i look at bent/crashed cars in the u.k for a living, and they all look better than your models do new

Well I doubt from your post that you're old enough to earn a living yet. But what kind of job is that? You sit there looking at cars in a scrapyard?

And America practically invented the car, remember that.

Lizard King
02-13-2001, 02:03 PM
..I doubt he'll be back to read this..

ThunderFish911
02-13-2001, 02:32 PM
He'd be foolish not to - one day he's going to say that in the middle of a fishing shop in central Tennessee, and get the shit beaten out of him by hordes of pissed-off dudes with #3's tattooed on their asses.

MrCorvetteZ06
02-14-2001, 05:20 PM
Thunderfish....LMAO:D!!!!

unite@af
02-21-2001, 01:50 AM
sorry I just got a bit dizzy after reading your specs MrCorvette man!!! nice man nice!!

BBA
03-15-2001, 10:25 PM
BEAT THIS YOU PRUNE


http://65.32.196.61/car.jpg:D

unite@af
03-16-2001, 01:48 AM
I hate that style with all my heart

TheMan5952
03-16-2001, 07:20 PM
I can't belive that dude. He's just sorry that our cars are better then his. A Mustang, Vette, Firebird, or Viper would rock any performance car coming out of his Bass Ackward Country. Straight line competition or Circle track.

And that thing about us buy the year old F1 cars and using them for drag racing, We build our own cars for them, cars that England would not know how to build. I can't say I've ever seen a 6+liter engine come from there that was stock in it's cars.

I think you need to make a trip over here and try out some of our cars, Then maybe you'll ditch whatever weak little car you have, and roll around with a WS-6 Firebird, or a Hemi 'Cuda.

Porsche
03-17-2001, 10:49 AM
I like some american cars, however I like German cars better. I'm not saying that American cars suck, cause they kick ass but some cars are better. I like the Germans because of there engineering, they spend countless hours in windtunnels and on the track driving their cars to perfection.

I'm not going to say anything to the scrapheap man because he's obviously got the point and you guys told him tha like 27 times! I think that British cars are good but in the end, the American cars are probably better. They are leess reliable but more powerful and bigger. Have you guys seen most British cars? They're two door 4 cyl hatchbacks! I'm not hating Britsh cars because at the other end of the scale are Jaguar, Roll-Royce, Bentley, Land Rover and Aston Martin. These are the finer examples of British cars. I don't know who said it but, American cars do lead the way, many other cars are based off of or very similar o some american cars.

unite@af
03-18-2001, 04:28 PM
I wouldn’t call Land Rover a fine example of engineering. They tend to have lots of little problems with them!!! I do however think they are awesome vehicles. There are reasons that they are camel trophy trucks. I would call them just normal examples of engineering with high price tags for what it is...

MBTN
03-18-2001, 06:02 PM
You silly English ninny, can't you see Italian cars are the best? DUH! :rolleyes: :finger:

Porsche
03-19-2001, 05:46 PM
Italians have the best bodies but germans have the better hearts and mechanics. Land Rovers are also known for their off-roading ailites.

redprixgt
01-08-2003, 09:38 PM
dude, British cars have really sucked for a while. In the past and even till now they have transmission problems. My dad told me a story about his triump and how whenever it rained, it would not start and he had to bring out a hair dryer with a damn extension cord to dry the internals. I have heard the same thing with jags. not as much reciently though. But one other thing. America has more variety, they dont target only the fast look, they go for woman's appeal, family's appeal, lux appeal... ya see what i mean. besides, if you were talking about the british f1 mclaren, you better watch out for the American SALEEN S7, best looking car on the planet and almost the fastest. Check it out

Jimster
01-09-2003, 01:30 AM
What the in gods name was the point i bringing up this thread???? All but 3 of the members who posted here have long since vanished- and yu are talking to someone who has been gone for over two years !:rolleyes: And by the way- the Saleen S7 has NOTHING on the Pagani Zonda


and it's well odcumented that the only good American cars on offer at the moment are the Mercedes-Benz inspired Chrysler cars, Dodge Viper, Chevrolet Corvette and Ford Mustang Cobra.

hybridsol
01-09-2003, 02:00 AM
Originally posted by igor@af


i'd say that generally, my favorite cars are Japanese.
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I've seen the future, and all I can say is go back....

HAHA! It seems the car gods favor me today! :coolguy:

redprixgt
01-09-2003, 02:19 PM
Hey jimster, first of all, you are a moran. Do you think that i only posted that for the thread starter? No idiot, it's so people like you who don't always reply but STILL LOOK at the old threads. think before you talk.

taranaki
01-09-2003, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by redprixgt
Hey jimster, first of all, you are a moran. Do you think that i only posted that for the thread starter? No idiot, it's so people like you who don't always reply but STILL LOOK at the old threads. think before you talk.


Only a true moron can't spell 'moron'.This thread should have been locked a while ago,,most threads about Yank tanks being the greatest things on four wheels usually turn into pissing contests,which is not what AF is about.

If you want to act the hard man and flame people,find another board to do it on.You've been banned often enough from this one.:finger4:

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