2014 Silverado parasitic drain?
ken_man_1
02-21-2017, 12:49 PM
I'm working on a 2014 Silverado 5.3 automatic.
When everything is sitting in sleep mode (over 3 hours), the current draw is anywhere between 11 and 17 milliams.
Occasionally, it will spike up to 122 milliamps for about 30 to 45 seconds.
Is this normal? I did have a different draw that would kill the battery overnight. It would wake up the BCM about 10 times an hour. I fixed that...just want to make sure this is back to normal.
Thanks in advance!
When everything is sitting in sleep mode (over 3 hours), the current draw is anywhere between 11 and 17 milliams.
Occasionally, it will spike up to 122 milliamps for about 30 to 45 seconds.
Is this normal? I did have a different draw that would kill the battery overnight. It would wake up the BCM about 10 times an hour. I fixed that...just want to make sure this is back to normal.
Thanks in advance!
aleekat
02-21-2017, 01:06 PM
j cAT
02-21-2017, 01:57 PM
that is normal. so why do you ask this ?
maxwedge
02-21-2017, 02:45 PM
Agreed with j cAT.
ken_man_1
02-22-2017, 10:42 PM
I read somewhere that it would jump up to 100mA once in a while. But the problem was that the truck would periodically be dead like 12 hours of sitting still. But there was a driving monitor connected to the OBDII port, and it would wake up the BCM about 10 times an hour. The draw was like 4 amps for 30+ seconds. After I unplugged the monitor (it's label said TIWI on it), the drain reduced to 100mA to 17mA.
Thanks for the confirmation!
Thanks for the confirmation!
ken_man_1
02-22-2017, 10:45 PM
Scroll down to KEY-OFF CAR BATTERY DRAIN.
http://www.aa1car.com/library/battery_runs_down.htm
I know all of that stuff. I just wasn't sure about the occasional 100 mA spikes.
http://www.aa1car.com/library/battery_runs_down.htm
I know all of that stuff. I just wasn't sure about the occasional 100 mA spikes.
j cAT
02-23-2017, 08:44 AM
I read somewhere that it would jump up to 100mA once in a while. But the problem was that the truck would periodically be dead like 12 hours of sitting still. But there was a driving monitor connected to the OBDII port, and it would wake up the BCM about 10 times an hour. The draw was like 4 amps for 30+ seconds. After I unplugged the monitor (it's label said TIWI on it), the drain reduced to 100mA to 17mA.
Thanks for the confirmation!
what is the model # of the driving monitor ?
I have scan gauge connected never had any problems coming on after the ignition is switched off.
Thanks for the confirmation!
what is the model # of the driving monitor ?
I have scan gauge connected never had any problems coming on after the ignition is switched off.
j cAT
02-23-2017, 08:49 AM
I know all of that stuff. I just wasn't sure about the occasional 100 mA spikes.
I got it ,,,,,,,,,,,, The Tiwi Driving Monitor tracks and records everything from speed to how sharp turns are taken. Parents can then monitor the data retrieved and even set limits as to where their kids can drive and how far over the speed limit they can go. Tiwi is available now and runs from $299-$599.
I got it ,,,,,,,,,,,, The Tiwi Driving Monitor tracks and records everything from speed to how sharp turns are taken. Parents can then monitor the data retrieved and even set limits as to where their kids can drive and how far over the speed limit they can go. Tiwi is available now and runs from $299-$599.
j cAT
02-23-2017, 09:00 AM
I know all of that stuff. I just wasn't sure about the occasional 100 mA spikes.
so with 5 min every hour the device uses 4 amps I would say the battery needs replacing if only sitting for 12 hrs down in Texas.
these type trucks have a history of early battery failures due to the high heat where the battery is mounted..
load test the battery.
so with 5 min every hour the device uses 4 amps I would say the battery needs replacing if only sitting for 12 hrs down in Texas.
these type trucks have a history of early battery failures due to the high heat where the battery is mounted..
load test the battery.
ken_man_1
02-24-2017, 08:08 AM
This thing was waking up the bcm every 5 minutes. I unplugged it and 3 days later the truck would still start without issues. But just as a follow through, the battery was replaced with a higher capacity battery a month prior for that exact reason.
j cAT
02-24-2017, 09:07 AM
This thing was waking up the bcm every 5 minutes. I unplugged it and 3 days later the truck would still start without issues. But just as a follow through, the battery was replaced with a higher capacity battery a month prior for that exact reason.
I would still load test the battery , also check the charging system.
12 hrs with the 5 MIN @4AMPS per hr . the battery should handle that.
perhaps the device is not shutting down as you mention . perhaps it stays on @4AMPS for a much longer time than 5min every hr.
do you have a chart recorder showing this on/off current drain ?
the manufacturer should be notified if you believe this will damage the vehicles electrical system and cause expensive repairs and service.
I believe that product is no longer being sold and was probably dropped due to operating issues. could be the device does stay on much longer than you have observed.
I would still load test the battery , also check the charging system.
12 hrs with the 5 MIN @4AMPS per hr . the battery should handle that.
perhaps the device is not shutting down as you mention . perhaps it stays on @4AMPS for a much longer time than 5min every hr.
do you have a chart recorder showing this on/off current drain ?
the manufacturer should be notified if you believe this will damage the vehicles electrical system and cause expensive repairs and service.
I believe that product is no longer being sold and was probably dropped due to operating issues. could be the device does stay on much longer than you have observed.
ken_man_1
02-25-2017, 05:29 AM
I think you're missing a vital part of my information. It's not daining once an hour. It's draining almost TEN TIMES an hour.
j cAT
02-25-2017, 06:46 AM
I think you're missing a vital part of my information. It's not draining once an hour. It's draining almost TEN TIMES an hour.
30sec 10 times every hour is 5 min. 5min with 4AMP drain should not prevent a cold start in a 12 hour period ,BUT I do believe the device is F'ed up.
also this device is no longer being sold and could have been dropped by the distribution company due to the issues your dealing with.
very interesting info about these OBDII aftermarket devices http://sandyblogs.com/techlink/?p=1563
30sec 10 times every hour is 5 min. 5min with 4AMP drain should not prevent a cold start in a 12 hour period ,BUT I do believe the device is F'ed up.
also this device is no longer being sold and could have been dropped by the distribution company due to the issues your dealing with.
very interesting info about these OBDII aftermarket devices http://sandyblogs.com/techlink/?p=1563
ken_man_1
02-25-2017, 07:18 AM
Lol my bad. I didn't think about it that way. Well, I only monitored it for an hour. Who knows what it did when I wasn't watching it....
The guy I'm working with is taking it to the monitoring people. I'll post back when I hear the solution. But for now, it's unplugged and everything is back to normal.
The guy I'm working with is taking it to the monitoring people. I'll post back when I hear the solution. But for now, it's unplugged and everything is back to normal.
ken_man_1
02-25-2017, 08:10 AM
Awesome link by the way. I knew a little about that but it's an eye opener for sure.
j cAT
02-25-2017, 12:15 PM
Awesome link by the way. I knew a little about that but it's an eye opener for sure.
I was interested in this OBDII scan type hookups and then the vehicle bus comm system which can be affected in a bad way.
these devices should have an approved certification by the vehicle manufacturers.
post back any info .
I was interested in this OBDII scan type hookups and then the vehicle bus comm system which can be affected in a bad way.
these devices should have an approved certification by the vehicle manufacturers.
post back any info .
ken_man_1
04-16-2017, 03:04 AM
Just wanted to follow up. I spoke to the person whom I was helping with this module spiking power while the truck was off. He told me the tech that installed the new unit for him tested the old one first. While I watched the amp meter for an hour, he put a data logger on it. Sometimes that module would stay on for 30 to 45 minutes. So he replaced it and and we haven't heard a thing since.
Thanks for your input and patience!
Thanks for your input and patience!
j cAT
04-17-2017, 07:54 AM
Just wanted to follow up. I spoke to the person whom I was helping with this module spiking power while the truck was off. He told me the tech that installed the new unit for him tested the old one first. While I watched the amp meter for an hour, he put a data logger on it. Sometimes that module would stay on for 30 to 45 minutes. So he replaced it and and we haven't heard a thing since.
Thanks for your input and patience!
thank you for the info.
this is a problem with these devices as they do mess up , and also may not be compatible with the newer vehicles as the electronics changes and can get these to turn on when they are not supposed to ..
the products must be tested for specific models and year of manufacture.
Thanks for your input and patience!
thank you for the info.
this is a problem with these devices as they do mess up , and also may not be compatible with the newer vehicles as the electronics changes and can get these to turn on when they are not supposed to ..
the products must be tested for specific models and year of manufacture.
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