TOO Scared To Race On The Street!

Some people just dont understand all the factors in street racing, the rush of weaving through traffic, the danger of knowing you might have a cop behind you at any time, the thrill of not knowing what is around the next turn. The track with all its safety gear and rules to follow will never compare to street racing. Any one can race around the same track day in and day out, and improve how fast they can do it, heck my grandama might beat some people out on the track. It takes skill to be a street racer, a lot more then it takes to race around a track. Yes it is dangerous thats what makes it so intense. I already can see people posting about how its not mature, how you risk the lives of everyone else on the road, and thats bull, you dont see people racing around town at rush hour or by a school when the little kids are going home, Street racers race at night, they are out at 2am when everyone else is asleep. Yes acccidents happen, but accidents happen all the time, a train derails, a plane crashes, there are all kinds of accidents every day. The reason I am posting this is becase some people need to open their eyes and see that street racing will never stop and by making posts like in this thread they are showing their true color, yellow> http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=937270#post937270

Ok... You're just an Idiot...

You're saying street racing isnt dangerous? Ok... Try explaining that to yourself the day you're coming home from a friends house late one night and you get T-boned by some 16 Year old who just got his license and barrowed the keys to his dads Vette and is racing around.

Just keep saying its not dangerous when you hit that homeless person whos walking across the street and you're doing 115mph and cant stop.

Just keep saying accidents happen to the peoples lives you destroy when you hurt or kill somebody. 'Hey shit happens man... You got in my way when I was illegally racing... walk it off!'

Just keep out of my part of the world if you're going to think like that.

yeah damnit, HOW DARE PEOPLE DOING THE SPEED LIMIT GET IN MY WAY WHEN I AM DOING 100+!!! Bastards could get me killed.:mad:

btw, no one take this seriously. :D

Im not talking about 16 year old kids that cant handle a car, or flying down a busy road where people are. I'm talking about people who put lots of time and money into their car and know exactly how far they can push it and when it is the right time to race and when is the right time to just let the other guy fly by. Just the other day I was sitting at a light and a honda pulled up, light turned green road was empty so we went, a truck pulled out in the hondas lane I saw the kid wasnt backing off, so I slowed down so he could cut in front of me. That kid in the honda was an idiot for not slowing down, but I was smart enough to not push the issue, sure he might have slowed down and jumped behind me, but he also could of not been paying attention and ran into the truck. Yes there are dumb kids out there that have no clue, but there are also people out their that take pride in their ride and what it can do.

Street Racing bad NEVER!!! Im to addictied to it, i could never quit. Im going to die one day Winning a race. At least thats how i would like to go.:sun:

Why arent you talking about 16 year olds? They race around too.. they drive around fast on streets abusing they're newly found privilege. So why are people who have the time and money to builld up a cool car more important than teenagers when it comes to this topic... if you're racing on the street theres always a risk of endangering yourself and others.

I myself am building up a very potent street car, Infact in about 2 years time the motor should be rebuilt to accept the supercharger thats going to find its way into the car. Should be about 600+hp on pump gas. Now I dont plan on street racing it on a regular basis. Infact most of my races always take place with in less than 1/8th of a mile. Once i've proved my point that I am faster no need to push the limits of anybody.

And with your original post you're basically saying is... Professional race car drivers who dont push the 'envelope' on the streets are pussies... but because they're office is in a 180+mph vehicle they're job is boring.

Cause I dont think i've ever heard of a ProRace driver ever getting busted for racing on the street.

Originally posted by RedNeck383
if you're racing on the street theres always a risk of endangering yourself and others.

Just as much if your a Pro at the tracks

Originally posted by RedNeck383
Now I dont plan on street racing it on a regular basis. Infact most of my races always take place with in less than 1/8th of a mile. Once i've proved my point that I am faster no need to push the limits of anybody. Thats what I mean, real street racers race smart.

Originally posted by dolla_bill0913
Thats what I mean, real street racers race smart.

Hmmm... well unfortunately theres alot of stupid people out there.

Makes for risky business.

ok ok...1st off, i street race, BUT i don't think it is smart. i do think that there are times that it is alrite to street race, but after seeing the track this week, i do believe that is by FAR the best place to race ur car.

with this said, im not saying that ppl who street race are stupid. jus SOME don't kno the limits of their cars, an for the most part 98% of drivers can't handle their cars at higher speeds (i would consider myself in that 98%), if a bad situation arises (ie...car pulls out, hit a bump wrong, etc...)

now, if u read my posts, i've gone over 100mph in races, an when i do think back, i am lucky that i didn't hurt myself or get in major trouble. i truly think that street racing DOES hurt ppl when one of the drivers is some 16' year old tryin to jus show off OR if something goes wrong. jus MOST ppl are lucky an don't see that bad side of it.

overall, street race if u want, but keep in mind WHERE u are, and wut the situations are also. don't let emotions take over when u street race...that is when u are going to truly hurt someone.

i need a race now....:D ::waits til wed for track::

I streetrace, too. I agree with dolla_bill, it's a helluva rush and nothing really compares. But I'm also old enough and smart enough to realize that this is one of the dumbest things to do. To say that pro racing is just as dangerous is absurd. They have so many rules and so much safety equipment, and, most importantly, they don't have to worry about a drunk guy wandering out into the street 20 feet in front of them at 85-120mph. They don't have to worry about stopping in time for red lights or cross traffic. Even late at night in seemingly empty areas, this type of stuff happens. So streetrace, it's fun. But just be prepared to face the consequences in case one day you have to apologize to a victim's family. And, just because I know what you're all thinking... yes, I'm a hypocrite. And I just thought of something else: to all you who are against street racing: why are you in the street racing forum?

First off, as many of you know my friends and I organize street races. Let me add that we make sure the road is abandoned and we send someone down the strip to do checks. This is still very dangerous, a deer could run out of the woods and into a car traveling at very high speeds, and thats just one senario. I have also participated in light to light races, just the other week during the Custom Compact Show I ran a black mustang on high street (Terrible Idea).

Ok now calling taranaki a pussy and a chicken will not enhance your chances of being liked in this forum, he is a well respected moderator. Also he's probably been in more street races than both of us (I don't know about you but I'm only 22). As Redneck383 said there are lots of stupid ppl out there, I'm sure taranaki has his reason's for disagreeing with it, probably due to first hand experience (I've seen my fare share of idiots who think there an F1 race car driver). Just b/c someone thinks Its a bad Idea doesn't mean there a coward. I would describe them with two words which have already been mentioned (street smart).

Ok now calling taranaki a pussy and a chicken will not enhance your chances of being liked in this forum, he is a well respected moderator. Also he's probably been in more street races than both of us (I don't know about you but I'm only 22). As Redneck383 said there are lots of stupid ppl out there, I'm sure taranaki has his reason's for disagreeing with it, probably due to first hand experience (I've seen my fare share of idiots who think there an F1 race car driver). Just b/c someone thinks Its a bad Idea doesn't mean there a coward. I would describe them with two words which have already been mentioned (street smart).

What he said.:D

Anybody caught streetracing should get their drivers license revoked, their car confiscated and receive a "Rodney King" style beating on the spot.:mad:

I see a lotta guys buy my house doing 80mph in a 45 limit, I have so much fun just dropping rocks throught their windshields. Its so easy too because they have a noisy exhaust and I know exactly when they'll come by. There's this especially blind right hand bend, i leave a cinderblock and any speeder that goes through gets his riced front air dam smashed. cuz if they werent goin so fast they wuldnt hit it. I get so satisfied.:p

being a psyc major, I would define that as "passive/aggressive behavior tendencies". LOL:D

Yeah good idea dude! That should be really safe! So when someone is walking down the sidewalk, they spin out and kill them! That is about the stupidest Fu(king idea I have ever heard of. Why don't you call the police and report speeding, and they will run radar or laser there. Eventually the problem will take care of itself! Use your head, damn you are the type of people we need to worry about. The ones that don't think about the consiquences!

Originally posted by street_racer_00
being a psyc major, I would define that as "passive/aggressive behavior tendencies". LOL:D

Yeah, my junior high counselors used to say that if I didn't get any help I could become a serial killer.

I see what Dolla_Bill is saying. Yes street racing is dangerous, but that is why people do it. They test themselves to push the limits of their driving. I don think it's stupid for people to race on the freeway with so many other cars around though. Back when I was in high school every weekend I went to the "illegal" drag races. Saw some few close calls but nothing happened. Then around the usual time, the cops would show up and everybody would run, it was a rush that you can't even explain running from the cops and thats the part that really made it fun. But then all of the thugish Meixans(its not a racist commit its just happens that they were mexican)began showing up in packs and thats when fights started happening and guns started to get pulled. That scared the hell outta me. It was peaceful and everyone got along until "they" showed up. Then about 2 years ago I was at another illegal race and a couple of dumbasses who were there to race didn't look where they were going and jumped out in front of a race causing a guy to swerve and hit a girl. Not exactly sure what happened to her, I heard she was paralized and i heard she was killed so im not sure. And now this guys probably serving time b/c of these idiots. Its the people who don't know how to drive and look around them to see whats going on who cause the accidents most of the time, not the racers. There will be illegal street racing forever, no one will ever stop it, its impossible to stop it. I'm pretty sure when and if I'm blessed with a son as my child he'll be out there doing the same stupid shit I did. I just hope he will be blessed with my common sense.

Just as much if your a Pro at the tracks
if you're racing on the street theres always a risk of endangering yourself and others.
the danger factor goes way down at the track.
hmm...


there's only 2 people on the track.

walls block you in.

safety personnel are on hand at all times...

much safer than the ever-changing atmosphere of the street...
Ok now calling taranaki a pussy and a chicken will not enhance your chances of being liked in this forum, he is a well respected moderator.
i thought taranaki was a female, at least from what i had heard prior...
a little off topic, but hey...
Street Racing bad NEVER!!! Im to addictied to it, i could never quit. Im going to die one day Winning a race. At least thats how i would like to go
dying stupid?

that sounds like a great way to go...
too much Vin for you.

Im not talking about 16 year old kids that cant handle a car, or flying down a busy road where people are. I'm talking about people who put lots of time and money into their car and know exactly how far they can push it and when it is the right time to race and when is the right time to just let the other guy fly by.
so prove that there aren't other variables...

like what if the truck you talked about swerved into your lane, along with the honda you raced...

then what?

riiight...

Originally posted by flylwsi

so prove that there aren't other variables...

like what if the truck you talked about swerved into your lane, along with the honda you raced...

then what?

riiight... The honda would of hit the truck creating a small dent to the truck, while the kid in the honda would be looking for a new car. As for me I would of driven by and laughed at the kid. Before a street racer races they should always say to themselves"Dont put yourself in a bad situation, think before you act".

Originally posted by hybridsol
I have also participated in light to light races, just the other week during the Custom Compact Show I ran a black mustang on high street (Terrible Idea). High street is not a place to go race> 25mph zone, lights evey 500ft, and cops out the poop chute, but it is a cool place to just go crusing with friends, lots of people around wanting to check out each others cars.;)

The honda would of hit the truck creating a small dent to the truck, while the kid in the honda would be looking for a new car. As for me I would of driven by and laughed at the kid.

if the truck swerved into your lane, and the honda came over, you'd have created a pile up.

that's pretty stupid.

i'm not going to say i don't do it, but i'm not going to say street racing is ok, and for all practical purpose, i don't race on the street...

and i don't ever do anything thinking i'm going to race, like i don't set them up with people.

i drive fast. other people don't like it.

it's not much of a race, b/c they see tail lights. but i don't let them pull up and try to start something.

it's just stupid.

Originally posted by hybridsol
Ok now calling taranaki a pussy and a chicken will not enhance your chances of being liked in this forum, he is a well respected moderator.Flylwsi called him a girl.:hehehe: Your talking to a guy who posted this thread> http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t96292.html I dont kiss anyones butt, I say what I feel and you can love it or hate it. Sometimes the truth hurts.

Originally posted by flylwsi


if the truck swerved into your lane, and the honda came over, you'd have created a pile up.

that's pretty stupid. As soon as the truck pulled out and I saw the honda wasnt slowing down, I slowed down right away, if there would of been an accident I wouldnt of been anywhere near it.;)

Flylwsi called him a girl.

um, ass?

i thought taranaki was a female, at least from what i had heard prior...

that's what i said.
i could have sworn i read that earlier, not today, but a while ago.
i didn't say it was gospel...


back to the topic.

the fact that you could have had an accident in that incident doesn't open your eyes to the inherent danger and problems of street racing?

if that doesn't, and you just see it as another "fun" factor, as you noted in your original post in this thread, don't expect anyone here to feel bad when you get into an accident, kill someone, or end up in jail...

it's just ignorant.

Originally posted by flylwsi
The fact that you could have had an accident in that incident doesn't open your eyes to the inherent danger and problems of street racing? Yes, there are stupid people who shouldnt/cant drive their cars in a responsible mannor. But, is it my fault if a kid takes his dads car out and kills someone. This is why instead of always just trying to get rid of street racing a new approch needs to be taken. Educate people, go to classes to learn to race, legalize street racing and set up times and places so it can be done as safe as possible, But stop ignoring that its out there.

Educate people, go to classes to learn to race, legalize street racing and set up times and places so it can be done as safe as possible,
there are professional driving schools and RACETRACKS.

what more??

i think that a driving school should be mandatory...

but hey...

But, is it my fault if a kid takes his dads car out and kills someone.

if you were racing the kid, and he kills someone? yeah, i'd say you are partially to blame. it may not work for legality completely, but that happened here in cleveland. two people racing, deserted road, one car loses control, kills driver and 2 passengers. other driver is charged.
and guess what, he wasn't acquitted.

getting rid of it is the only way. it's going to happen yes, but legalizing it is wrong. that's why there are speed limits.

that's why there are racetracks. what else do you need?

Maybe if I gota high powered rifle, like a 30-06...I live right near the interstate, its just a 15 min stroll through the woods to get there...yeah...

i dont currently street race, and ill admit, i am in fact a 16 year old that loves to fly around in my dads car, its not a vette , but not a pinto either. the problem with most kids like me is that all they care about is numbers. HP, speed, blah blah. most dont look any deeper then 'how much did that cost' and 'how fast does it go' , or safety. ive only heard questions about 'whats your suspension setup like or 'what octane',from my freinds. ex: more detailed questions that show that you have at least a basic knowledge of a car and some interest in the insides and workings of a vehicle, not just some exaggerated specs that you have no clue as to what they mean. what im trying to say is while the majority of people like me really do abuse their new found privelage, there are some who actually have a passion for maybe one day looking in their garage and seeing their modded S2000 or Firebird or whatnot. they might even care about their paint job and get their brakes checked instead of running a perfectly good car into the ground and endangering innocent people. i cant tell you how many times ive seen kids like me burn out in a dodge stratus or a Fleetwood, taking a 70* turn in an oldsmobile @ 50 mph. when i drive a car in a 'fun way' i get nervous and jittery, why? because im scared of what could happen, im scared for the people who follow the rules. just imagine one day some loser kid is going 70 in a 35 and smacks into your loved ones. this is a message to people like that: be careful and think before you act.

Originally posted by flylwsi
Getting rid of it is the only way. It's going to happen yes, but legalizing it is wrong. That's why there are speed limits.

That's why there are racetracks. what else do you need? It will never go away and as long as poeple make excusses there will continue be accidents and people will die. Its just like smoking, drinking, prostitution, etc. no matter what you do you will never be able to totally get rid of it, so people need to wake up and learn to comprimise a little.

compromise?

with something as dangerous as it is?
there are speed limits for a reason.

the compromise is called the drag strip.

what else do you need exactly?

find a track and go to it.

is it that hard?

Originally posted by dolla_bill0913
High street is not a place to go race> 25mph zone, lights evey 500ft, and cops out the poop chute, but it is a cool place to just go crusing with friends, lots of people around wanting to check out each others cars.;)
Actually, right before the hess station (at the split) which turns into trindle and spring garden, at the intersection of east street (which there is a texaco station on the right hand side and a beer distributor one down) there is a long stretch which is a 30-35 mile an hour zone, still pretty short but the redlight isint until you get to weiss. But your right their police force is enormous, thats why I said it was a bad idea, not to mention cars pulling out everywhere. (Just so you know, I have family in carlisle and I know the town like the back of my hand). High street is also a no cruising zone, although many disregard this I've seen ppl get pulled over for it. Furthermore if you stop in any of the buisness parking lots (after dark) and just hang out or "check out each other's rides", you'll get hit with a citation.

PS- T-man is a guy, he's posted pictures.

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Originally posted by hybridsol

Actually, right before the hess station (at the split) which turns into trindle and spring garden, at the intersection of east street (which there is a texaco station on the right hand side and a beer distributor one down) there is a long stretch which is a 30-35 mile an hour zone, still pretty short but the redlight isint until you get to weiss. But your right their police force is enormous, thats why I said it was a bad idea, not to mention cars pulling out everywhere. (Just so you know, I have family in carlisle and I know the town like the back of my hand). High street is also a no cruising zone, although many disregard this I've seen ppl get pulled over for it. Furthermore if you stop in any of the buisness parking lots (after dark) and just hang out or "check out each other's rides", you'll get hit with a citation.

PS- T-man is a guy, he's posted pictures. Thats why you go hungry, as long as you buy something from the place you park your car they cant do a thing. The cops will usually warn you first, as long as your record isnt horrible, and you dont just keep driving up and down the main drag (if they see your car drive by 100 times in 30 min. you deserve a ticket). :p

limit it?

that's what's happening now.

it's getting limited by the cops. they're trying to faze it out. will that happen? no.

but, if you open your eyes, cops aren't anti racing, and many departments have DARE sponsored drag racing teams, which promote what you said earlier...

making it feasible... taking it to the track.

With faster cars being sold at cheaper prices, it will only get worse before it gets better, people need to wake up, dont try to get rid of it try to limit it.

education, not compromise, is the key.

explain to me what you would do to make it a feasible thing, like how you would "make it legal" and "designate a spot for it"

wouldn't that make it a race track, even if it's a temporary one?

looks like we're saying the same thing. hmm...

Yes but NO RULES, NO SAFTY GEAR, not the same track every night, we are on the same page, just different paragraphs.

after reading the orginal post i didn't want to read on..... i think street racing is just stupid.... i live in Vancouver, Canada... just a while ago... an officer died because some dumbfucks happens to be racing at 2 am....... he was driving a civic SIR..the new ones (Ep3) going really fast.... he runs a red light which was when the police officer was just driving acrross... the police officer's car was a Crown Victoria.... he was struck driver side and the impact was so great it killed him.... and too make things even worst... the dumbfuck of the SIR left the scene after he crashed...:rolleyes:
dolla_bill0913 i understand that there are many accidents that happens everyday... plane crash, trains derailling, etc...
but don't you think that STREET Racing is Preventable....have you ever wonder what happen if one nite u were racing and you struck a pedistraian (sp?)...your gonna have to live with that for the rest of your life.....

here is a artice written about the accident....
:(
RCMP Cst. Jimmy Ng died Sunday morning (Sept 15) when his police cruiser was "T-boned" on the driver's side by another vehicle that was likely street racing. The driver of the other car fled the scene.

Jimmy was serving in Richmond Detachment which is one of Vancouver's many heavily populated suburbs in BC's lower mainland area. Jimmy had transferred to Richmond from Vancouver Island where I had known him.

Jimmy was well liked, and made time for people on and off the job. He had a keen sense of humour and was quick to help anyone who needed a hand. He is going to be missed by everyone who knew him.

This week, in visits to the Island Detachment at which Jimmy had served, a lot of people were shaken up by his death. For some it brought up feelings and emotions of past events they had stuffed into the far reaches of their mind. Thinking they were gone but, this week, realizing they were not forgotten.

R.C.M.P. Constable
Jimmy Ng,
June 15, 1970 - September 15, 2002

Yes but NO RULES, NO SAFTY GEAR,

and that would be smart how?

no rules?
if you mean that it's not set, like not started off a light, whatever...
or like, no classes, run whatcha brung... yeah... go to a test and tune night...

no safety gear?

that's ridiculous. what falls under safety gear?

at the track, you can race a stock car with no "safety gear"

you just need a helmet if you're under 14s (or lower, depends on the track), and a 6 point cage under 12s.

so you don't kill yourself.

sorry to burst your bubble, but most cars at the track don't break 14's, and even less on the street would...

and do you think that the city would encourage that idea if you had neither of the above?

if the city gov't and police allowed it to happen, it would have to be supervised. and don't think that for a second that any governing body would allow something as reckless as that

Originally posted by endlesskev86
here is a artice written about the accident....
:(
RCMP Cst. Jimmy Ng died Sunday morning (Sept 15) when his police cruiser was "T-boned" on the driver's side by another vehicle that was likely street racing. The driver of the other car fled the scene. Remember speeding and street racing are 2 different things, there is only one car involved, yes it is sad, but just cause a kid was speeding home you cant blame street racers. If you say all speeders are street racers, then 50% of all drivers would be considered street racers.

Originally posted by flylwsi


and that would be smart how?

no rules?
if you mean that it's not set, like not started off a light, whatever...
or like, no classes, run whatcha brung... yeah... go to a test and tune night...

no safety gear?

that's ridiculous. what falls under safety gear?

at the track, you can race a stock car with no "safety gear"

you just need a helmet if you're under 14s (or lower, depends on the track), and a 6 point cage under 12s.

so you don't kill yourself.

sorry to burst your bubble, but most cars at the track don't break 14's, and even less on the street would...

and do you think that the city would encourage that idea if you had neither of the above?

if the city gov't and police allowed it to happen, it would have to be supervised. and don't think that for a second that any governing body would allow something as reckless as that I would take my driving skill over all the safty gear in the world. You go wait in lines for your car class to run, on the same boring track every night, no thanks.

live in Vancouver, Canada... just a while ago... an officer died because some dumbfucks happens to be racing at 2 am.......

RCMP Cst. Jimmy Ng died Sunday morning (Sept 15) when his police cruiser was "T-boned" on the driver's side by another vehicle that was likely street racing. The driver of the other car fled the scene.

i'm sure the car that hit the officer wasn't able to drive away...
so that means there was another car that fled...

read the post a little more before you claim that...

and come now...

street racing is pretty easily defined, and in general, takes no notice of the law, including stop signs and stop lights.

speeding is a little different.
but that doesn't mean speeding is ok.
come on now

Originally posted by dolla_bill0913
Thats why you go hungry, as long as you buy something from the place you park your car they cant do a thing. The cops will usually warn you first, as long as your record isnt horrible, and you dont just keep driving up and down the main drag (if they see your car drive by 100 times in 30 min. you deserve a ticket). :p
Not all buisness locations ppl gather to, are open at 2 am. If you sit there with the item you purchased for more than lets say 10 min they will apporach you.
100 times.........try 3. I was told by a local police officer (Officer Tilden) they follow you on your third pass, and if you decide to take another stroll through town they pull you over. This holds true b/c it has happened to my good friend mus.

I would take my driving skill over all the safty gear in the world. You go wait in lines for your car class to run, on the same boring track every night, no thanks.

every race car driver on the planet takes safety gear into consideration.

what happens when you hit a pothole, blow 2 tires and spin into a wall, or pole? without a cage? betcha you're gonna get fucked up.

the last time i went to the track, i got 12 runs in within 3 hours.

how many you get when you go out street racing?

i've got 4 strips all within an hour of my house. sorry, i prefer safety . . .

do you know what a "test and tune" night is?

people go and line up, and whoever is in line, runs. it's not all about classes.

you need to open your eyes and see what's really going on before you say it's a waste.

Originally posted by hybridsol

Not all buisness locations ppl gather to, are open at 2 am. If you sit there with the item you purchased for more than lets say 10 min they will apporach you.
100 times.........try 3. I was told by a local police officer (Officer Tilden) they follow you on your third pass, and if you decide to take another stroll through town they pull you over. This holds true b/c it has happened to my good friend mus. Thats why you go early, it gets boring after a couple hours anyway. If there is a cop behind you, you head out to the freeway, as many people who race on high street also race using the lights on the freeway. You just need to be smarter then the cops. :D

Originally posted by flylwsi


every race car driver on the planet takes safety gear into consideration.

what happens when you hit a pothole, blow 2 tires and spin into a wall, or pole? without a cage? betcha you're gonna get fucked up.

the last time i went to the track, i got 12 runs in within 3 hours.

how many you get when you go out street racing?

i've got 4 strips all within an hour of my house. sorry, i prefer safety . . .

do you know what a "test and tune" night is?

people go and line up, and whoever is in line, runs. it's not all about classes.

you need to open your eyes and see what's really going on before you say it's a waste. What if there are no racetracks around? There is one @ 75miles from me but thats it and for some people it may be even farther.:confused:

75 miles...
on the freeway, that's an hour.

consider the consequences.

get a ticket, maybe hurt someone, have your insurance rates go up, lose your license, etc.

or spend the time/money and go to the track.

or, be smarter about racing your car.

i understand that it's not always possible to do the right thing, but consider the scenario...

a group of people that are street racing usually have a crowd, and people out of their cars, etc.
and the streets are narrow.

i've seen some occasions where a car that is coming back to get into "line" again gets hit by a car that just launched...

or there are people that walk out, crowd towards the line/street's edge...

if it's you and some guy on a deserted road, it's different.

the problem is in the scene, like that damn movie portrayed...

people everywhere, cars everywhere, etc.

see what i'm getting at?

be smart about it

Originally posted by flylwsi


i'm sure the car that hit the officer wasn't able to drive away...
so that means there was another car that fled...

read the post a little more before you claim that...

and come now... He could have just ran away. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by flylwsi
if it's you and some guy on a deserted road, it's different.

the problem is in the scene, like that damn movie portrayed...

people everywhere, cars everywhere, etc.

see what i'm getting at?

be smart about it Thats what I have been saying, think before you act.

i understand what dolla bill is saying, but after seeing the type of safety at the track, i gotta say it is the way to go. (yes...u'll still hear about street-racing from me tho). i had to drive 45 miles both ways, but im going to do it again this week. why? i don't need another ticket on my record, an i don't really feel like running the risk when i have another option.

yes, i'll still run light to light sometimes (its jus a guy thing i swear...) but from now on, im going to take MOST of my racing to the track. u say u like the rush? go jump off a plane (skydiving), go rock climbing...get involved in extreme sports...im sorri, but the excuse of the "rush" is jus too weak to say that is the biggest reason to street race.

its like flylwsi is saying...u HAVE to think about the bigger picture then jus "i like to race, an its gonna be around forever, so why not?" i don't think anyone wants the burden of having the memory of killing an innocent pedestrian, jus cuz u wanted to have 10 seconds of adrenaline.

Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00
i don't think anyone wants the burden of having the memory of killing an innocent pedestrian, jus cuz u wanted to have 10 seconds of adrenaline. Thats why you need to race smart, dont get caught up in the race and do something stupid. Winning isnt everything, its just about having a good time.

Originally posted by dolla_bill0913
Thats why you need to race smart, dont get caught up in the race and do something stupid. Winning isnt everything, its just about having a good time.

i kno this. BUT u have to realize how much the risk of an accident goes up when ur pushing ur car past the limits or UR driving. im not saying u can't drive, but wut i am saying is that overall, i'd bet at high speeds, ur not going to be able to correct for a mishap that happens in time (we're not all mario andretti)

Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00
i kno this. BUT u have to realize how much the risk of an accident goes up when ur pushing ur car past the limits or UR driving. Thats why you need to know how hard you can push your car. You mod the car the way you want it. You know how far you can push it and when its time to say I lose, it aint worth it.

Originally posted by dolla_bill0913
Thats why you go early, it gets boring after a couple hours anyway. If there is a cop behind you, you head out to the freeway, as many people who race on high street also race using the lights on the freeway. You just need to be smarter then the cops. :D
First of all everyone hangs out late at night, second of all I don't know of a freeway anywhere near carlisle? 81 is a highway with no traffic lights, and if your reffering to carlisle pike thats a 15 min drive.

Thats why you need to know how hard you can push your car. You mod the car the way you want it. You know how far you can push it and when its time to say I lose, it aint worth it.

that's all good and well,
but what about the unknown...

like a flat tire that sends you into a parked car, a telephone pole, a building...

property that's not yours...

you could injure yourself, not just other people

Originally posted by flylwsi


that's all good and well,
but what about the unknown...

like a flat tire that sends you into a parked car, a telephone pole, a building...

property that's not yours...

you could injure yourself, not just other people

exactly...accidents happen an the risks go WAY up when u do race.

I agree "take it to the track" but its hard and just something to that makes it hard is the money you can make in organized street racing

Yeah I bet your a real badass streetracer with your 89 firebird!:rolleyes:

Originally posted by erricer
Yeah I bet your a real badass streetracer with your 89 firebird!:rolleyes:
awwww sheat, I think dolla bill and Devil are gonna have to put the smack down.:eek:

Yeah I bet your a real badass streetracer with your 89 firebird!

Like a 74 Corvette is any better? You could get a 350 V8 as low as 195 hp in the 74 model, thats pushing quite a bit less then what I have. 74 was probably one of the worst year for American vehicles as well. Underpowered and gas hogs at that, I dunno man regardless of how powerful your Vette I wouldn't talk shit like that.

Dollabill restate what it is your trying to prove here. Normally I would have said something but I'm having a hard time understanding what exactly you want us to believe. You just seem to be stating the obvious, such as people who know how to drive and can handle their cars should street race not kids who just earned their license. We already know that, so what else is it you are trying to say?

Originally posted by flylwsi


that's all good and well,
but what about the unknown...

like a flat tire that sends you into a parked car, a telephone pole, a building...

property that's not yours...

you could injure yourself, not just other people You mean blowout, a flat wont cause your car to crash unless you are stupid enough to try to drive around on it. You could get a blowout and crash into something going 40mph while driving home from work.