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Best Street racing Car Ever?


ReverseScamology
05-31-2010, 10:08 AM
I Think it is the corvette zo6. It looks amazing, handles well and can be modified to beat Bugatti's, what do u guys think?

CivRacer95
05-31-2010, 01:17 PM
The Geo Metro. Throw in a GNX motor and you destroy everything. Nuff said.

/sarcasm.

Welcome to the forums :)

VR43000GT
05-31-2010, 05:27 PM
Nope. My personal opinion is going to be something that can handle well always while at the same time catch traction without a bloody swap of tires. IMO, there are a lot of choices but I would defintately say for street racing it would be something AWD.

CassiesMan
05-31-2010, 05:56 PM
Three black Honda Civics with green underglow and Mashimoto tires.

TatII
06-01-2010, 10:27 PM
In all fairness the C6 Z06 is very nice, but I would go with the GTR just because I'm more of a import fan and that the GTR is overall a better car even though mod for mod it would get walked by a Z06 at speeds above 120mph+

ReverseScamology
06-02-2010, 03:54 AM
Nope. My personal opinion is going to be something that can handle well always while at the same time catch traction without a bloody swap of tires. IMO, there are a lot of choices but I would defintately say for street racing it would be something AWD.

i get what u r saying, but remember the corvette zr1 is the fastest production car ever to go around Nurembergring noorcheife, i dont know if u know ehat that is, but its a 20km long circuit with 160+ corners. u r not going to be the fastest around there without good traction and handling. Thats why i wud stil go corvette, killer around corners, massecerer on straights.

CassiesMan
06-02-2010, 10:16 AM
i get what u r saying, but remember the corvette zr1 is the fastest production car ever to go around Nurembergring noorcheife, i dont know if u know ehat that is, but its a 20km long circuit with 160+ corners. u r not going to be the fastest around there without good traction and handling. Thats why i wud stil go corvette, killer around corners, massecerer on straights.

Actually, it isn't anymore. If you want to consider the Viper ACR and the Ferrari 599 GTX production, they blew the ZR1 up.

ReverseScamology
06-02-2010, 10:44 AM
Actually, it isn't anymore. If you want to consider the Viper ACR and the Ferrari 599 GTX production, they blew the ZR1 up.
The corvette zr1 is a production car, the 599 gtx and viper acr are production DERIVED cars, not in the same class. i can take a single seat racer and absolutely annihilate the 599, but its not in the same class therefore incomparable. the zr1 still holds the production car lap record around the Nurembergring.
This Thread is about street racers. if i took a 599x and a zr1 or zo6 and moddified both of them, the zr1 or zo6 will easily surpass the 599. the ferrari is already the best it can be, hence its a proper ferrari. the zo6 is just a simple block that can take much more power, you can do much things to it. many people have got it to over 1000hp easily and i know of one person who took a 6.0 version to 1986hp. U will never get that from a ferrari. it would break if u tried. the ferrari is amazing, but if u buy the vette and spend the rest of the money that u wud of spent just buying the ferrari on modding the vette, nothing on the road will catch u. Period.
:smokin::smokin::smokin:

CassiesMan
06-02-2010, 01:03 PM
The corvette zr1 is a production car, the 599 gtx and viper acr are production DERIVED cars, not in the same class. i can take a single seat racer and absolutely annihilate the 599, but its not in the same class therefore incomparable. the zr1 still holds the production car lap record around the Nurembergring.
This Thread is about street racers. if i took a 599x and a zr1 or zo6 and moddified both of them, the zr1 or zo6 will easily surpass the 599. the ferrari is already the best it can be, hence its a proper ferrari. the zo6 is just a simple block that can take much more power, you can do much things to it. many people have got it to over 1000hp easily and i know of one person who took a 6.0 version to 1986hp. U will never get that from a ferrari. it would break if u tried. the ferrari is amazing, but if u buy the vette and spend the rest of the money that u wud of spent just buying the ferrari on modding the vette, nothing on the road will catch u. Period.
:smokin::smokin::smokin:

You've obviously never spent any time off the LS1tech boards, have you? Ever hear of some people called Underground Racing? They went ahead and TT'd a Gallardo that went 249 in the Texas Mile. That's a standing mile, mind you, not some roll race. A local Supra builder took his out there too. Only car he didn't beat was the UR TT'd Gallardo. They are doing a 1500whp build on a F430 right now. Yup, completely maxed out, no mods work at all.

I can, off hand, name about ten or fifteen local guys that have taken modded ZR1s, bent them over their knees, and spanked them like a little bitch. ZR1 is awesome, don't get me wrong, I've been in a handful and got some seat time on one, but it is not the end all be all of cars, ever.

TatII
06-02-2010, 01:06 PM
That cost vs mod argument is very hard to argue since I know I would take the 599 gtb or gto over any corvette modded or not. The stock 599 GTB is no slouch either being able to break 130mph in the 1/4 and all stock and thats not even the gto version. And yes you can mod exotics just ask the folks over at underground racing where they twin turbo the gallardos to break 1000hp regularly. If you want to talk about all out speed there is a twin turbo Ford GT that has been doing the standing mile and it absolutely destroyed the record that was previously held by a supra. The old record was 246mph in the mile, the Ford GT posted 267mph against a strong headwind!! They have broke 270mph during practice runs. If you are going to judge the ultimate street car based on highway rolls than that Ford GT is the king, followed by the Supra.

edit: Cassiesman beat me to it, I had no idea UR had finally beat the supra. So yes the new order is TT ford GT, TT Gallardo, than large single turbo supra.

CivRacer95
06-02-2010, 11:50 PM
So are we talking about production cars now? Or cars that can be modded to be anything? Also, are we talking about straight line performance? Or are we racing in the twisties?

All in all the Vette is an amazing car in it's own right. But, ultimately, if you are talking about "this car being modded for the price of that car, it will beat it and anything else", you pretty much have opened a major gap for almost any car to beat any car out there based on who has the most money. Kinda pointless.

Confusing stuff, but I am really enjoying the pace of this thread. Carry on chaps!

CassiesMan
06-03-2010, 09:37 AM
edit: Cassiesman beat me to it, I had no idea UR had finally beat the supra. So yes the new order is TT ford GT, TT Gallardo, than large single turbo supra.

Yup, SW finally bit the bullet and went all out. Ross from Dynosaur went down to the Texas Mile as well in his "slow" car and he beat everyone except SW.

ReverseScamology
06-03-2010, 10:40 AM
You've obviously never spent any time off the LS1tech boards, have you? Ever hear of some people called Underground Racing? They went ahead and TT'd a Gallardo that went 249 in the Texas Mile. That's a standing mile, mind you, not some roll race. A local Supra builder took his out there too. Only car he didn't beat was the UR TT'd Gallardo. They are doing a 1500whp build on a F430 right now. Yup, completely maxed out, no mods work at all.

I can, off hand, name about ten or fifteen local guys that have taken modded ZR1s, bent them over their knees, and spanked them like a little bitch. ZR1 is awesome, don't get me wrong, I've been in a handful and got some seat time on one, but it is not the end all be all of cars, ever.

I agree with hat u said there, the zr1 is definitely not the end all be all of cars but for band for its buck it gets a pretty good score... it beats lots of cars triple its price. If you give a zo6 to the underground racing guys to seriously mod ( not the zr1, the z06 has much more modding potential), they will come out with a 2000hp supercar that WILL run away from the gallardo that they did. The f430 is basically not the same engine, it just a very small piece of it in the middle of a mass of tuning. Most street racers cant afford to do that, and doing small things to a z06 compared to doing small things to 599 is a big difference. I know one guy who never even turbo ed his z06, but changed exhaust systems, put new heads and injectors and polished and redid the CPU. He is getting 800hp. Without a turbo. You can do those small things to a 599, but u wont get 800hp, i reeli dont think you can.

If you do turbo either car, thats a entirely different story.... the z06 can take a turbo without much trouble, but more prep will have to be done on a 599.
also another car that i think is good is an Elise with a bigger engine dropped inside, that could go like a rocket on straights and also around corners.:evillol:
maybe the chevy 572 v8 would do well there :sarcasm1: :) dont think it will fit....

Keep up the good posting guys :) :iceslolan

TatII
06-03-2010, 05:16 PM
The elise would be horrible for a top speed run. The car is too small and too light with too short of a wheel base to be stable at those speeds. Also the reason why you get such large gains with light mods with the vette is because they were not optimized from the factory. The argument is kind of lame because it is such a open ended discussion. Also your saying that you put turbos in a vette and it will do 2000hp. Guess what kind of cars comes to the standing mile competitions? Turbo charged 8.4 liter vipers and Turbo charged Vettes. The high powered cars in those competition all average around 1500whp. The thing that is holding the supra back is gearing. The supra at 240mph is redlining 10K in 6th gear, but its aero and stability is superb.

Chiquae07
06-04-2010, 12:54 AM
most street races occur from about 65-135 or so. there is rarely an instance where going over 140 is needed, or used for a race unless its neck and neck. no one really races from a dig anymore. the closest thing to a dig these days are 20mph rolls so people dont just spin at the line, as turbo and high hp fwd cars are common now.

basically your looking at what can accelerate to 135 or so the fastest from 65 give or take.

ReverseScamology
06-04-2010, 07:32 AM
most street races occur from about 65-135 or so. there is rarely an instance where going over 140 is needed, or used for a race unless its neck and neck. no one really races from a dig anymore. the closest thing to a dig these days are 20mph rolls so people dont just spin at the line, as turbo and high hp fwd cars are common now.

basically your looking at what can accelerate to 135 or so the fastest from 65 give or take.

Thats where the vette and Elise is good, they are light and pick up speed quickly because of their high power to weight ratio. they corner well at these speeds too and not many people will be able to catch u, provided you a good driver. the Viper to too front heavy for corners, so u have under steer then snap over-steer. I think the vette or a new engined Elise will beat it there.
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This argument is really developing, nice work guys!

TatII
06-09-2010, 09:35 PM
The elise ( when stock atleast ) is not very good past 100mph. They have good initial get up and go but run out of steam because of the lack of power and their downforce producing aero. That is why its top speed is only in the 140mph range even though it can run a mid 13 second 1/4 mile.

ReverseScamology
06-11-2010, 03:53 AM
The elise ( when stock atleast ) is not very good past 100mph. They have good initial get up and go but run out of steam because of the lack of power and their downforce producing aero. That is why its top speed is only in the 140mph range even though it can run a mid 13 second 1/4 mile.
yea i agree, but thats stock, there is a tuning company in brit that took an Elise and strengthened the chassis and dropped a 1000hp engine in it. and it goes like hell.:rofl: they obviously also did many aero packages to deal with the high sped, but that would all cost a fortune. Thats why id stil go with the vette and mod it.

GForce957
06-11-2010, 03:07 PM
yea i agree, but thats stock, there is a tuning company in brit that took an Elise and strengthened the chassis and dropped a 1000hp engine in it. and it goes like hell.:rofl: they obviously also did many aero packages to deal with the high sped, but that would all cost a fortune. Thats why id stil go with the vette and mod it.

http://fast-autos.net/vehicles/Hennessey/2011/Venom_GT/

Polygon
06-11-2010, 04:02 PM
Thats where the vette and Elise is good, they are light and pick up speed quickly because of their high power to weight ratio. they corner well at these speeds too and not many people will be able to catch u, provided you a good driver. the Viper to too front heavy for corners, so u have under steer then snap over-steer. I think the vette or a new engined Elise will beat it there.
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The Viper handles just fine as long you're not a nimrod. After all, it holds the fastest production time on the ring. The Elise to too light to add a ton of power to and hit high speeds. Without lowering it to levels not usable on the street you're going to have a real problem with lift at higher speeds.

Also, handling isn't an issue with street racing.

youngvr4
07-19-2010, 03:36 PM
most street races occur from about 65-135 or so. there is rarely an instance where going over 140 is needed, or used for a race unless its neck and neck. no one really races from a dig anymore. the closest thing to a dig these days are 20mph rolls so people dont just spin at the line, as turbo and high hp fwd cars are common now.

basically your looking at what can accelerate to 135 or so the fastest from 65 give or take.


only once did i go over 135mph in a street race. 150 walking a transam

good ol days

CassiesMan
07-20-2010, 06:06 PM
only once did i go over 135mph in a street race. 150 walking a transam

good ol days

Last time I really went that fast was in the Speed3 running a 'Stang. Neck and neck till 130ish, then really slowly starting pulling him.

-The Stig-
07-29-2010, 08:04 PM
In all fairness the C6 Z06 is very nice, but I would go with the GTR just because I'm more of a import fan and that the GTR is overall a better car even though mod for mod it would get walked by a Z06 at speeds above 120mph+


Minus the GTR's weak transmission...


The performance car that can't run it's own numbers for fear of Transmission destruction. :disappoin

Although, it beats the LF-A in just about every performance category... and costs over $200k less. haha.. so, a Win there.:icon16:

VR43000GT
07-30-2010, 10:03 PM
Minus the GTR's weak transmission...


The performance car that can't run it's own numbers for fear of Transmission destruction. :disappoin

Although, it beats the LF-A in just about every performance category... and costs over $200k less. haha.. so, a Win there.:icon16:

Eh, just throw in an Alison transmission.






















/troll

Polygon
08-13-2010, 07:40 PM
Minus the GTR's weak transmission...


The performance car that can't run it's own numbers for fear of Transmission destruction. :disappoin

Although, it beats the LF-A in just about every performance category... and costs over $200k less. haha.. so, a Win there.:icon16:

Eh, the LF-A and the GT-R are both crap. I'll take a 458 Italia. MUCH better looking and only a tenth slower than the Enzo on the TG test track.

CassiesMan
08-13-2010, 11:25 PM
I'm gonna say that the 2006 350Z is the best Street Racing car because when a Viper and I when blasting by a cop today, he went after the Viper, not me. So I can race and not get caught by the cops!!!!

pennywel
08-18-2010, 10:10 PM
Let me throw a wrench in the works and return this exchange to the reality of $$$ limits. Ford just announced the return of the Boss 302 Mustang for 2012. They stated in their news release that the lap time of the Boss @ Leguna Seca is better than that of the 2010 BMW M3. I've got to get me a powerful curve-cutter that will as well take me 6 hours out of state without a tow truck in my rearview, 50 lbs of tool in the trunk, or a broke back. The 04 to 06 E46 M3 has been under investigation, but the mod parts cost so much more. Give me some ideas and wisdom.

Muscletang
08-27-2010, 10:39 PM
Good God man at least give us something to go by. Price? Money to work with? Light to light racing? Highway runs? Price range?

The Terminator '03 Cobra.

Yeah, I'm biased, sue me.

pennywel
08-31-2010, 10:25 AM
Okay then. I thought about the '03/'04 Terminator - my oldest brother has a jet black Roush model w/ red trim. But I heard the chassis has too much flex for road track. For a max of $70K, get a new '11 Mustang 5.0 with comfort features, replace the fenders, hood & doors w/ carbon fiber from ASD Motorsports in Charlotte, NC, install aluminum flywheel & driveshaft, add a roll-cage for safety that allows use of backseat - I'm shooting for functional comfort, convienience, & road performance - I might not be able to do it all. But I don't want some pre-madonna ride that stays in the garage 3/4's of the year, nor do I want a ragged-out race ride that'll jar my teeth out of my head. I'll add big brakes front & rear, adjustable coilovers on all four corners as well as larger sway bars front & rear. As for a power-adder, I'm leaning towards a centrifugal supercharger to ease launching. Furthermore, I'd like to match the vette & 911 with 12 inch wide rear tires. Ideally, I do not want to tub the rear or flare the the rear wheel wells, but I'll lean toward the later if necessary. I'm planning as well to do anything else I can to reduce weight while maintaining functional comfort. Someone might suggest getting a Corvette Grand Sport - that idea is in the back of my mind. But I do like playing the role of the underdog and looking a bit more incognito. If I switch to one of the so-called rice-burners from Japan, I'd lean towards a G-37. Initial dependability and mods that do not require organ donation are both important, as well as rear-wheel drive. I'll complete a number of the installs while my brother's shop will handle the body and paint. Given the above and dollar limit, I'm open to other ideas.

UnderEstimate Me
09-03-2010, 10:36 PM
Jesus, I come back here for two seconds and already I want to rip my eyes out.

CivRacer95
09-04-2010, 08:22 AM
Jesus, I come back here for two seconds and already I want to rip my eyes out.

Welcome back...please proceed then.

CassiesMan
09-07-2010, 10:34 AM
Okay then. I thought about the '03/'04 Terminator - my oldest brother has a jet black Roush model w/ red trim. But I heard the chassis has too much flex for road track. For a max of $70K, get a new '11 Mustang 5.0 with comfort features, replace the fenders, hood & doors w/ carbon fiber from ASD Motorsports in Charlotte, NC, install aluminum flywheel & driveshaft, add a roll-cage for safety that allows use of backseat - I'm shooting for functional comfort, convienience, & road performance - I might not be able to do it all. But I don't want some pre-madonna ride that stays in the garage 3/4's of the year, nor do I want a ragged-out race ride that'll jar my teeth out of my head. I'll add big brakes front & rear, adjustable coilovers on all four corners as well as larger sway bars front & rear. As for a power-adder, I'm leaning towards a centrifugal supercharger to ease launching. Furthermore, I'd like to match the vette & 911 with 12 inch wide rear tires. Ideally, I do not want to tub the rear or flare the the rear wheel wells, but I'll lean toward the later if necessary. I'm planning as well to do anything else I can to reduce weight while maintaining functional comfort. Someone might suggest getting a Corvette Grand Sport - that idea is in the back of my mind. But I do like playing the role of the underdog and looking a bit more incognito. If I switch to one of the so-called rice-burners from Japan, I'd lean towards a G-37. Initial dependability and mods that do not require organ donation are both important, as well as rear-wheel drive. I'll complete a number of the installs while my brother's shop will handle the body and paint. Given the above and dollar limit, I'm open to other ideas.

If you are throwing around a 70k budget, then go with the R35 GTR. Not as fast as the ZR-1, but as fast around the track as a Z06 and in the same price range. Take it to Cobb, have them do all that ECU gremlin magic, and call it a day. You now have a fast track car with heated seats and don't have to pay the German premium.

Then again at the 70k price range, you can also pick up one of the few rare R33s that got into the States before ICE shut that down.

But I'm gonna say you should buy the Mustang, because you are trying to justify it. Every post is how you could make the Mustang faster and comparing it to cars in completely different markets. However, I'm gonna give you the same advice I give everyone: Unless its how you feed your family, don't buy a car based on track times or ability to modify.

Then again, I still don't know what you want? A fast DD? A drag car? Track car? Depending on what you want, I could give you better advice.

CivRacer95
02-27-2011, 12:29 AM
hi,guys no 1 speed car have the Hp over high performance and engine non limited for best racing on the street:smile::smile::loser::loser:
http://freeimagestock4you.com/img/Q/0.png

I'm so lost in this right now...

Besides that...Welcome to AF :)

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